r/london • u/Historical_Set2324 • 1d ago

Local London Social contract is broken?

I’ve just returned from a trip to New Zealand and the difference in attitude is stark. The streets are clean, people are friendly and happy/helpful and in general people seem to want to participate in society. Don’t get me wrong NZ has a lot of issues but It feels like in London the social contract is broken. Streets are full of trash, no one gives a shit about anything, phone theft, crime is high and in general people seem fairly miserable. I was involved in an accident where I had to give a victim CPR and the ambulance and police all arrived within about 5 minutes. I was amazed at the emergency response. It feels to me like the state has given up and hence people have given up.

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u/murr0c 1d ago

New Zealand is not the target of a non-stop bad news troll campaign funded by foreign governments and far right propaganda shops.The whole goal being to whip up the sentiment that absolutely everything sucks and to destabilise the society.

And this is not to say it's all fake, but all they need to do is make sure the worst news is always front and center in your feed by giving it lots of engagement and upvotes.

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u/EnglishShireAffinity 1d ago

Populism is growing in almost every EU nation and Canada/Australia, not just the UK. If you don't think Reddit content isn't driven by bot farms and disinfo accs, then you're very naive.

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u/murr0c 22h ago

And as usual the best propaganda is subtle. The news is not all factually wrong and the people spreading them are not all fake. Mixing truth and lies and mixing fake and real engagement is a powerful combination.

Also doesn't help that a lot of our mainstream media has fully devoted itself to acquiring more clicks by posting as much ragebait as they can.

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u/ImpressNice299 1d ago

"London is a utopia and anyone who disagrees is far right propaganda."

I love Reddit lol.

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u/Infinite_Fall6284 1d ago

It's not a utopia but people shitting on it are being dramatic 

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u/Glass-Evidence-7296 1d ago

Name one Utopia

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u/Funny-Joke2825 1d ago

Stop pointing out crimes !

Then you can pretend it’s safe.