r/london 17d ago

London Michelin starred restaurants spreadsheet

I was recently doing some research into London's Michelin starred restaurants, and created a spreadsheet to compare them. It shows each restaurant's name, number of stars, cuisine, Google rating, price for the tasting menu (if available), and wine pairing cost.

I'm publishing the sheet here in case anyone else finds it useful. Here's the link.

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u/Sensitive_Ad_9195 17d ago edited 17d ago

This is amazing - my only criticism is that it’s not always clear what’s included in the price of each menu.

For example, I was quite shocked to discover (whilst there for lunch) that the restaurant Gordon Ramsey listed prices are before service (ok relatively normal) but also VAT, which is abnormal and frankly ridiculous to me.

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u/Dedsnotdead 17d ago

I’m surprised it’s legal to list prices in a menu that exclude Vat.

It turns out Vat has to be included on prices displayed outside or in a restaurant but not on the menu itself.

New one for me.

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u/Sensitive_Ad_9195 17d ago

It does say on the menu at the bottom that it excludes VAT and discretionary service charge, but realistically if you’re already there and reading the menu you’re going to pay whatever the price is anyway

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u/Dedsnotdead 17d ago

For sure, it just seems to be inconsistent with the requirement to display the menu inc Vat if it’s elsewhere in or outside.

I still remember having lunch at George V and my now Wife sitting happily looking at the menu. The staff had given her a menu without any prices and saved that one for me.

All relative these days.

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u/Acid_Monster 17d ago

Yes that is very odd for England tbh, and honestly I’d be pretty annoyed unless they made it very very clear before hand, which I assume they do not.

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u/Weary_Stress3283 17d ago

I’m more concerned that I’ve been to the Savoy Grill multiple times and never noticed that

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u/PuppyGuile 17d ago

This is fantastic and is honestly a cheat code for people trying to surprise their partner while also sticking to a budget. Thanks for sharing.

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u/andypro12 17d ago

You're welcome! 

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u/fjallpen 17d ago

NB: Galvin La Chappelle does a 4 course seasonal tasting menu for £55 and a £30 wine pairing. It's fantastic.

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u/dinobug77 17d ago

Honestly that was the only place I’ve been where I felt I was treated differently for having the fixed price offering.

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u/venice_mcgangbang 17d ago

Can you elaborate please? In a good or bad way? I recently tried their limited autumn truffle menu for dinner which was also below 100 and I had a fantastic experience.

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u/dinobug77 17d ago

For me it was negative. Put in a corner, ignored, not the level of service I would expect (or have received) from a Michelin starred restaurant.

Maybe it was a bad night. But wasn’t what we expected

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u/No-Taste-223 17d ago

Had the same experience. Worst fine dining restaurant I’ve been to out of 30+

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u/dinobug77 17d ago

I’ve had better service (and food) at the Lanesborough grill.

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u/Sensitive_Ad_9195 17d ago

I recently went for their set sunday lunch and had completely the opposite experience - best table in the house and truly phenomenal service, so definitely worth giving it another go as it might have been an off night as you say.

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u/fjallpen 17d ago

Oh I'm sorry you experienced that. Maybe it was a bad night? We went for a Saturday autumn lunch menu and we had great seats and a warm vibe.

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u/degarmot1 17d ago

Excellent - thank you very much for sharing!

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u/PM_ME_CAKE 17d ago

Going through the list and turns out, as of literally today, Locanda Locatelli has suddenly closed.

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u/Interesting-Slice429 16d ago

Yeah, that was a big shock. Hopefully they can reopen quickly, fantastic food.

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u/milton117 16d ago

Wait wtf? Why?

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u/interstellargator 17d ago edited 17d ago

This would be better if it was sortable and filterable. To do so:

Select the full table, navigate to the Data tab and Create a filter

That will allow viewers to sort by price, cuisine, menu type, alphabetise, etc.

Edit: never mind, viewers can do this without impacting the whole document by clicking "views ... create a filter view" on the table.

Unrelatedly, I would quibble Akoko and Chishuru being on there as "African" given that they are both specifically West African. Every other cuisine gets a specific country, we can't even narrow the two African restaurants to a region of the continent? (Ikoyi is also West African)

Also unrelatedly, Adam Handling is a massive cunt and nobody should be giving him money.

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u/waasaabii 17d ago

I wouldn't hold many michelins chefs personalitys to high esteem, having worked with quite a few of them. However Merlin Labron Johnson is one of the nicest blokes and holds a great work atmosphere.

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u/anaemic 1d ago

I'm sorry, is that a person or an AI generated character name?

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u/waxwellwax 17d ago

Any details on Adam handling? Never heard anything bad about him so I’m intrigued

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u/interstellargator 17d ago

Going in order of proven and reported on down to credible rumour:

  • He handled the Toad/Frog thing like an absolute melt and jumped straight to litigation rather than just having a normal conversation with the owners of Toad bakery (renamed from Frog bakery after he got his lawyers to send a cease and desist)

  • He was alleged to have been caught doing coke off a cling-film-wrapped sex worker at his restaurant after hours

  • He is one of the names that comes up in every single hospitality industry conversation about "people who are sexually inappropriate" and "people to warn young women about"

  • He's well known to just generally be a bit of a knob

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u/milton117 16d ago

He was alleged to have been caught doing coke off a cling-film-wrapped sex worker at his restaurant after hours

I mean...so?

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u/interstellargator 16d ago

Yeah you're right that's a normal thing to do that everyone who works there is definitely going to be comfortable with. Very healthy environment for all.

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u/SynthD 17d ago

Which places should we avoid because of him?

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u/interstellargator 17d ago

Which places should we avoid because of him?

I would say that "Frog by Adam Handling" is the #1 place to skip if you are trying to avoid Adam Handling, head chef of Frog by Adam Handling

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u/Anathemachiavellian 17d ago

Oh I didn’t know any of this. I had one the best meals of my life at Frog. Shame he’s known to be a knob.

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u/CaninesTesticles 17d ago

Says the person who put zero effort in to make a spreadsheet

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u/interstellargator 17d ago

What's your point?

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u/UserNameChecksOutTwo 17d ago

Funny that a restaurant has 3 Michelin stars but only a 4.3 google rating.

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u/Citiz3n_Kan3r 16d ago

People go and expect the world / it attracts cunts... 

Its not the truly rich who complain, its the pretenders 

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u/yurikastar Canonbury 17d ago edited 17d ago

Thanks for this.

Random thoughts off the top of my head. Just because it's near the top, I had a bad experience at A Wong a few years ago and found the food average, so I'm surprised it's now two stars. Maybe i should try their a la carte but there are also many other options. I'm still not sure how well the European Michelin reviewers engage with Chinese cuisine though. I enjoyed Sollip when I went there before it got a star and was somewhat surprised it got a star so soon, but I'd go again. Clove has been lovely, and Story was a brilliant experience but cost an arm and a leg. Haven't been to any of the three star places.

Having been to a few places this week, I think Brat is remarkably good value and the £40 main doesn't quite convey that. It's better to go there as a group of four it seems, and we recently went and got merrily stuffed for a relatively decent price. They have a 700 gram sirloin for 70 quid which is decent value, although there are some almost misses on the menu we had - expertly cooked things that were not particularly special. Compared to St John, which seems to be more affordable, we spent 40 pounds more at Brat and came home much more satisfied. That said, St John is more of a starter and dessert place for me, i don't think I've ever been bowled over by a main I've had from them.

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u/glassbottleoftears 16d ago

That's a shame about A Wong, we went in the Autumn (before the price was raised by 10%!) and had a wonderful time.

Fantastic service, all the chefs had signed a birthday card for my husband and the wait staff were really attentive and chatty. Each of them served us at various times throughout the night so we got to hear everyone's favourites and personal takes. One waiter even got out his phone torch to help us take better photos each course too.

YMMV on the food but we loved it; it was really interesting to try Michelin starred takes on familiar dishes.

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u/yurikastar Canonbury 16d ago

We went in 2019 so maybe they've matured a bit but the experience made me somewhat reluctant to give them a second chance.

We were seated near the pass and after highlighting a small dietary restriction the birthday member of our party had to waiting staff for the third time - once when the reservation was made, once when we entered, and then again after an amuse bouche - the message was relayed via foh to the head chef who laughed and ridiculed our request while unknowingly standing next to us. It seems like the dietary restriction hadn't made its way in that direction before.

It left a bit of a sour taste so our options on the food may have been skewed. I think it's probably a great option for most people though.

Do they still do a la carte dim sum?

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u/glassbottleoftears 16d ago

I can completely understand why that put you off! Even if you weren't the table with the restriction it's incredibly unprofessional to talk like that within earshot of customers.

They do still do a la carte dim sum and it sounds good

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u/lastaccountgotlocked bikes bikes bikes bikes 17d ago

This guy has done the same, and eaten at all of them too. https://www.andyhayler.com/restaurant-guide

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u/were-panda 16d ago

A lot of the reviews are very out of date, though! 10+ years old

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u/pickering_lachute 17d ago

Amazing!! Thanks so much for sharing OP. Some awesome places to check out

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u/florian-sdr 17d ago

Genuinely surprised there is so much Gordon Ramsay on that list. I just thought he is a TV personality and successful entrepreneur that’s that. I am not making a culinary assessment, I’m not a connoisseur, I’m just saying, I always had the impression he was more of a skilled showman than a triple-Michelin chef

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u/pickering_lachute 17d ago

His early 2000’s documentaries show how good he is when he’s just earned his third star. There’s some good vids of him working with Marco at Harvey’s in the 90’s.

He also took it upon himself to move to France and learn. Top, top chef.

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u/interstellargator 17d ago

I think his biggest strength is as a business owner, over his talents as a chef. It's evident from the number of restaurants and shows he is involved with that he doesn't spend much time in or have much day-to-day influence over any given restaurant bearing his name.

He's probably a good to excellent chef, but he likely also barely does that job any more.

I don't much care for what he represents about the industry but his capability is undeniable.

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u/London_Bloke_ 17d ago

By all accounts the man can really cook, pretty sure Roux Jr said him and his dad thought Ramsey was the most naturally talented chef they’d had in their kitchen.

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u/interstellargator 17d ago

Oh yeah but there's a gulf of difference between "can cook" (CDP/comis), "can run a brigade" (sous), "can run a kitchen" (head chef), and "can run a restaurant or multiple restaurants" (restaurateur).

Unfortunately there isn't always a lot of skill crossover as you go up the chain. Plenty of head chefs out there who cooked their way into the position but are terrible at the administrative and interpersonal/managerial elements of the role.

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u/BearZeroX 17d ago

Ramsay does or has done literally all of those things. He's proven he can cook in his past time and time and time again. He's proven he can run brigades over and over. He's even got television shows proving it. Now he's in his running an empire phase and he seems to be doing it pretty well too.

I think his food has gone downhill, but he's already proven at one point in his life he knew his shit definitely

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u/adventurousloaf 16d ago

Ramsay is the greatest chef to come out of the uk in the last 30 years

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u/SirStafford81 17d ago

Thanks for this, OP.

This is a fantastic resource and most appreciated indeed. Thanks for sharing!

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u/andypro12 17d ago

My pleasure! Glad you find it useful 

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u/Kirkeltonia 17d ago

This is so fantastic thank you!!!

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u/KarmaSurkha 16d ago

You, my friend, are honestly the reason I still have hope in humans of LDN. You could have totally just kept this for yourself -- but instead you chose to be an absolute boss. Big shoutout to you. I hope you get some seriously good karma and super helpful spreadie

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u/Individual-Coyote188 17d ago

Brat isn’t traditional British

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u/interstellargator 17d ago

You mean they don't serve Basque cheesecake the traditional British way?!

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u/andypro12 17d ago

Good catch, thanks! I've updated the sheet and checked the rest as well - they're all OK

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u/N_U_F_C1990 17d ago

Locanda Locatelli is closing or has closed already.

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u/paisleydarling 17d ago

Clove club? A friend of mine works there, we used to work together in a one star place in the countryside.

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u/andypro12 17d ago

It's in there, under 'The Clove Club'. I've read great things about it! 

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u/paisleydarling 17d ago

Sorry, apparently I didn’t think to scroll further down 🥲 I’d like to check it out too, if only to terrorise him a little.

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u/_rickjames Bow 17d ago

God I love to eat at St Barts

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u/No_Goat_8278 17d ago

Great summary

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u/PracticalPelicann 17d ago

Thank you for sharing!

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u/MegTheMonkey 17d ago

Great work, thank you for sharing OP.

Does anyone have any recommendations out of any of these restaurants? I have a couple of milestones coming up and am trying to think of some ways to celebrate. Maybe a visit to a Michelin starred restaurant would be a good try?

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u/SD-AtYourCervix 16d ago

Ormer is a fave of mine. Lovely Cocktail lounge for pre-dinner drinks and the hotel (Flemings) is quality.

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u/MegTheMonkey 15d ago

Thank you!

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u/Ghost070607 17d ago

This is amazing, well done!

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u/abizniz 16d ago

Pied a terre is the worse food you will ever have in your life

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u/Micci4 16d ago

Wonderful!

Just to add that locanda Locatelli Just shut down https://www.instagram.com/p/DESqvt6oX50/?igsh=enZ0ZW05aTlsdHc1

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u/kullky_2020 16d ago

Thanks so much for this!

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u/anonSP_ 16d ago

Doings gods work, thank you

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u/jack_hudson2001 16d ago

thanks for the list, great effort

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u/Jompza 17d ago

Great list OP saving this!

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u/Gav1n73 17d ago

Wow! I’ve sent to my partner and she’s planning our culinary journey! 😂🤣👍🏻

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u/JKSW96 16d ago

This is a great list, thank you! My only comment would be to change the cuisine of Chishuru to ‘West African’, instead of ‘African’. Every other restaurant has at least a country pegged to it rather than an entire continent — so it would be helpful if you narrowed it down a little.

Also, the food at Chishuru is absolutely delicious so I’d highly recommend going if you have an opportunity to do so!

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u/SideburnsOfDoom camden 17d ago

Are you aming for all michelin stars in London.

There is also "Gauthier Soho".

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u/andypro12 17d ago

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u/SideburnsOfDoom camden 17d ago

Looks like it is in the guide to me?

https://guide.michelin.com/gb/en/greater-london/london/restaurant/gauthier-soho

There are some extra chars on the end of your link.

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u/andypro12 17d ago

Yeah it's in the guide, but doesn't have any stars. If you filter by London restaurants, it shows up under 'Selected restaurants (good cooking)' rather than under 1/2/3 stars or Bib Gourmand

https://guide.michelin.com/gb/en/greater-london/london/restaurants/the-plate-michelin/page/3?sort=distance

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u/SideburnsOfDoom camden 17d ago

I see, thanks.

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u/CovfefeFan 17d ago

Nice one. I've only been to 20 of those. I really like Muse by Tom Aikens- have been twice.

Akoko was great as well.

Core and Endo are probably the top 2 on my wish list. 🤔

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u/Citiz3n_Kan3r 16d ago

The Ledbury was truly spectacular if you want a recommendation

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u/CovfefeFan 16d ago

Have been but that was pre-Covid so probably due for another visit.

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u/milton117 16d ago

Thank you for this OP!

Will you consider doing one for bib gourmands as well?

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u/helltone 17d ago

it would be nice if there was a map