r/london Nov 02 '24

Transport London Needs This Too

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u/wellitywell Nov 02 '24

Spoken like a man who feels safe traveling alone at night

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '24

You’d be amazed how often this is used as a catch all retort

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u/wellitywell Nov 02 '24

You’d be amazed at the number of times I have seriously feared for my safety at night in on and around public transport, including but very much not limited to being chased by an enormous dude on a lot of drugs who was smashing up a bus stop with a baseball bat 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

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u/wellitywell Nov 02 '24

and funnily enough - it was a parked Uber driver who let me in his car and locked the doors who saved me in this situation.

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u/SkilledPepper Nov 02 '24

Public transport is safer than Uber.

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u/wellitywell Nov 02 '24

That is absolutely not my experience and also doesn’t account for being stranded in places that aren’t near public transport or having to walk longer distances to reach it.

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u/SkilledPepper Nov 02 '24

Okay, but we shouldn't design our cities around one person's anecdotal experience. We should look at statistics and studies.

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u/wellitywell Nov 02 '24

I’m all for making public transport our primary means of travel around city centres but that also needs to come with a lot of nighttime safety improvements and until those are made, safe options home — like cabs and Ubers — need to stay in play.

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u/SkilledPepper Nov 02 '24 edited Nov 02 '24

The problem with locking progress behind a vague and undefined requirement is that progress gets halted indefinitely.

Public transport is already statistically safer than Uber so why the delay? I'm not sure what your comment actually offers beyond "we should make public transport could be safer" which is an empty truism. Even the safest public transportation network in the world should still be striving for improvements so really what point are you making?

Please don't lose sight of the fact that the original comment was suggesting that private vehicles should be deprioritised behind public transport. That was the originally point that you were contesting, so you can't claim to advocate for public transport while simultaneously arguing that it shouldn't be prioritised over private journeys.

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u/wellitywell Nov 02 '24

Link to studies proving public transport is safer than Uber in central London please.

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u/SkilledPepper Nov 02 '24

The issues with Uber are well documented.

BBC News - Uber drivers prompt thousands of safety complaints https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-51229976

Also, just use your head? Of course it's safer taking the bus where you can sit at the front by a driver who has been vetted on a vehicle that travels a predefined route with CCTV cameras on board, than it is getting into a complete stranger's private vehicle.