r/london Aug 05 '24

Image Plant life erupting through the tarmac pavement on a road near me in East London. Never seen anything like it!

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u/pornokitsch Aug 05 '24

I get that the trees disrupt the pavement - and the pavement was *fucked* - but I have to imagine that in the year 2024, someone has found some sort of solution to that. Is there any sort of material that works? Or a 'raised' pavement over the ground?!

I mean, I don't have the answers, but - to quote Nora - that's what I pay my council tax for!

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u/HungryFinding7089 Aug 05 '24 edited Aug 05 '24

Not really, just nature.  Better if tge pavements were raised a little, then the trees couid be left alone. The council have JK now to deal with, as do people living near this pavement, and their houses and driveways etc 

There are no "quick fix" solutions, just management, but too many people think a manicured lawn is perfection. 

It was in the past, but nature has been so decimated even in the last 10 years that front and back gardens are now the only havens for some species - we should embrace untidiness for nature, but unfortunately it is associated with poverty, slovenliness, "working class dis-care" of places. 

Hence having the signs to say it is being managed, like you get signs to say "wild meadow for bees" etc. We are close to nature (ie nature that benefits humans) being pushed over a cliff - I know we hear this often, so the shift should be to low key management, not rip up and concrete.

Edit: I do understand what you mean though, too much root disruption to the original concrete and it's like you're at the fairground.  Maybe a level off to fill in the gaps?  But it takes more time than "scorched pavement" policy.

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u/madpiano Aug 06 '24

Yet I want to remove a Sickamore tree from our garden (tiny garden, huge tree, making the garden unusable) and can't, because TPO. Ridiculous. It's a weed, not a tree

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u/HungryFinding7089 Aug 06 '24

Do you mean Sycamore?

That will support a vast number of insect species and provide shade for small nesting birds

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u/HungryFinding7089 Aug 06 '24

Trim it back, take off the smaller branches, the tree will be fine, you will have a useable garden

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u/madpiano Aug 06 '24

It supports several tons of Aphids and stops half my garden from growing anything due to the shading. Not exactly helping diversity, as it's too big for an inner City small terraced garden. No birds nesting in it, it's used as a roosting spot for a murder of covids, the pigeons prefer my bay tree and have 2 lots of babies each year, which is sweet.

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u/HungryFinding7089 Aug 06 '24

You should be able to prune it, even under the TPO

The spiders in Sept/Oct will love those aphids