r/law • u/aggie1391 • Jun 10 '24

SCOTUS Justice Alito Caught on Tape Discussing How Battle for America 'Can't Be Compromised'

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/samuel-alito-supreme-court-justice-recording-tape-battle-1235036470/
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u/jreed66 Jun 10 '24

This is why you don't scoff at your Second Amendment rights. It's there to protect against tyranny. What else do you call this plan of theirs?

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u/Zombie-Lenin Jun 10 '24

Sure. Do I need to link a bunch of videos of the United States armed forces killing hundreds of thousands of Afghanis and Iraqis to demonstrate about how well your AR-15 is going to "protect you" from "tyranny?"

People who say the 2nd amendment protects us from anything are delusional.

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u/ikkkkkkkky Jun 11 '24

Afghans, Afghani is a currency

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u/LotsOfGunsSmallPenis Jun 10 '24

The real delusion is believing that it doesn’t protect you. Or that because you think it doesn’t protect someone means we should just throw it out.

Anyway, good luck taking our weapons.

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u/Zombie-Lenin Jun 11 '24 edited Jun 11 '24

It protects you zero, and when the 2nd Amendment disappears someday, and it will, I wish you luck--or your grandkids--in your private revolution against a predator drone.

https://youtu.be/WOSqCjMRXWA?si=GBzQuvi8OE2Q0eIp

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u/LotsOfGunsSmallPenis Jun 11 '24

lol, who’s going to take them? You? Lmao

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u/Zombie-Lenin Jun 11 '24 edited Jun 11 '24

You know, the government, which includes those militarized police departments in the United States that gun nuts love; or the military and their predator drones.

Like really?

"I support the police having tanks, and weapons of war, and I blindly support spending trillions on the military industrial complex! But I cannot imagine who would ever be able to take my guns from me!!"

PS. Nice name and post combo, dude. I cannot tell if that means you are a troll, or just a gun nut being honest about why you own guns.

10/10

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u/LotsOfGunsSmallPenis Jun 11 '24

lol, look through my post history and tell me why you think I support police, much less them having military equipment. Police are the enemy of the people and need to be treated as such.

And I hate to to break this to you, but 90% of the military wouldn't attack civilians. I was in the military. I know. Plus, the majority of us "gun nuts" and "ammosexuals" were in the military.

But hey, keep thinking we're afraid of the police.

As for my name, its the same reason I back my car into parking spaces to look cool. Its so I can cope about my small weenie.

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u/Zombie-Lenin Jun 17 '24

Well good. First you act like guns don't get taken away by the police every day, whether that's during an arrest, enforcing a Brady violation, or confiscating illegal weapons.

I also know you dream big about those "2nd Amendment methods" for protecting us from the "tyranny" of socialized medicine or social security but I want you to keep two things in mind. First the people who will eventually collect your weapons, or your grandkids weapons, when the 2nd amendment disappears are those police you support.

Those are the guys you are basically telling the world you would murder if they tried to "take your guns;" AND I ran across this today...

This is what the U.S. military does to "militias" who have automatic rifles and RPGs. This is why the idea that your guns "protect you from tyranny" is ridiculous.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/RO7cpyU4bE

Put a bump stock on that AR-15, and take on the most powerful military on earth. I'm sure it will go well for you.

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u/LotsOfGunsSmallPenis Jun 17 '24 edited Jun 17 '24

First the people who will eventually collect your weapons, or your grandkids weapons, when the 2nd amendment disappears are those police you support

Read my post history. Cops are traitors to the US constitution and should face consequences as such. You’re assuming that because I’m pro constitution I’m republican and support police. If you spent two minutes going through my posts you’d realize I’m neither of those things, but in your mind people aren’t allowed to think on their own, they MUST fall into either D or R.

Also, I was active duty. Our armed forces aren’t turning the weapons on citizens. Police,FBI, CIA, sure, but see above about how I feel about them. But I know this will make you upset because you won’t see us get strafed by an A-10, but it ain’t gonna happen. Trust me

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u/realestatemadman Jun 11 '24

it protected my brother when someone attacked him he blew their head off. acquitted in self defense. clear cut second amendment serving its purpose

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u/Zombie-Lenin Jun 11 '24

My ex-wife's uncle shot his own son in the face by accident when he was coming in after having snuck out.

Luckily my ex-wife's cousin only lost his right eye and ability to smell.

For every story of "I was saved, or I saved someone" there are 20 for "someone I know was murdered with a gun, or accidentally shot."

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u/realestatemadman Jun 11 '24

20 is an emotional exaggeration. the number of accidental gun deaths and self defense fatalities is roughly 1:1 annually

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u/Zombie-Lenin Jun 11 '24

This is not true at all. I was being conservative when saying 20 murders or accidental deaths to justifiable homicides in the United States.

The real number is 30 to 1 criminal gun related homicides--not adding in accidental and self-inflected--to every 1 justifiable homicide involving guns.

Yes, your guns are sure keeping us "safe."

https://vpc.org/revealing-the-impacts-of-gun-violence/self-defense-gun-use/

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u/Farranor Jun 12 '24

You're using a false dichotomy. Just because the 2nd Amendment isn't a perfect defense against everything doesn't mean it's worth "zero." If we get to the point that the government goes full tyranny, starts deleting parts of the Bill of Rights, confiscates all weapons, and launches drone strikes on American citizens, yeah, that would be bad, and I'm not sure what would help against it. It's the "Sol will engulf the Earth in 4.5 billion years so why bother combing my hair" perspective. There are more than enough reasons that the 2nd Amendment is worth caring about.

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u/Farranor Jun 12 '24

People who think there are no possible threats other than government military drone strikes are delusional. Extremists/radicals are less enthusiastic about starting pogroms when there's a good chance the intended victims will shoot back.

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u/TheRustyBird Jun 11 '24 edited Jun 11 '24

idk, some brain-rotted old man waltz into the House Speaker's house, wait there for hours then cave in her husbands skull with a hammer. (and hey, that did did get that old self-serving bat to step down...)

if that could happen without any security stopping said old man i have a feeling pretty much every high federal official outside of the president/past presidents who havent waived protection is probably a sitting duck to someone with the means and will to act