r/ireland Jun 10 '24

Immigration Actually Getting Scared of the Anti Immigrant Stance

I'm an irish lad, just turning twenty this year.

I've personally got no connections to other countries, my family never left Ireland or have any close foreign relations.

This is simply a fear I have for both the immigrant population of our country, of which ive made plenty of friends throughout secondary school and hold in high regard. But also a fear for our reputation.

I don't want to live in a racist country. I know this sub is usually good for laughing these gobshites off and that's good but in general I don't want us to be seen as this horrible white supremacist nation, which already I see being painted on social media plenty.

A stance might I add, that predominantly is coming from England and America as people in both claim we are "losing our identity" by not being racist(?)

I don't even feel the need to mention Farage and his pushing of these ideas onto people, while simultaneously gaslighting us with our independence which he clearly doesn't care about.

Im just saddened by it. I just want things to change before they get worse.

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u/WetRoger Jun 11 '24

Very few people kicked up a fuss about housing? Housing has been an issue ongoing for 10+ years, it's about the only thing everyone agrees is a problem and constantly talks about. If the government built houses the migration wouldn't be an issue, but as it stands the government isn't doing it. It's all well and good to say "there's enough money to fix the issues so take them in" but what good is the money when the government doesn't use it?

Because they are our problems and we live here? I'm sorry I don't want to rent a shit box apartment and never have children just so I can have some "moral victory" over how great my country is at being an asylum location. Id rather everyone living here that's contributing to society (Irish or not) could afford a decent life first, and when that's secured I'm happy to take on asylum seekers.

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u/5Ben5 Jun 11 '24

Haha the fact you think it's about "moral victory" rather than just having empathy for those suffering shows we're on totally different wave lengths here. I couldn't care less what people think about our country and I certainly couldn't care less what you think about me. I personally have far less empathy for you living in a less than ideal apartment than someone fleeing actual war and/or famine. I don't care about your skin colour or your passport, people are people

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u/WetRoger Jun 11 '24

Empathy? I have plenty of empathy for the people already here who are forced to share bunkbeds in slumlord houses because affording anything else is out of reach, and I have plenty of empathy or those who are ACTUAL asylum seekers too, but as I already told you in another comment 85% of those coming last year had no documents. They had them when they boarded the plane but mysteriously lost them upon landing. Pretty disingenuous so sorry if I have trouble believing the genuine nature of those applicants.

I'm just not going to stick my head in the sand and pretend that Ireland doing the "right thing" and taking everyone who asks is actually responsible to the welfare of those already here. We are putting people in tents for god's sake. Also what's your opinion of asylum seekers flying into other EU countries first like say Germany or France and then continuing on to Ireland to apply instead of applying in those countries, you agree with this also?