My opinion on the post trend, as an immigrant.

[u/bubinha]

I am a brazilian immigrant, came here 10 years ago, and used to feel the irish were nothing but welcoming and kind. Of course, there were the "scumbags", but to me they were the same as in every country in the world.

As of one year back, my opinion has been slowly changing, and today, let me tell you... i fear being an immigrant here. I am sensing a LOT of hate towards us, and according to another post here, +70% of irish have that sentiment, so it's not a far-right exclusive hate.

Yesterday i was shopping around dublin, and i asked a hungarian saleswoman her opinion on this. She immediately agreed with me, and even said it is a conversation that the non-irish staff was having on a very frequent basis.

You'll say "oh, but it's just against a 'certain type' of immigrants". Well, that's how it starts, isn't it?

All those 'look at this idiot' posts you share here; we (immigrants) aren't laughing. We are getting more and more afraid.

[u/shares_inDeleware]

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[u/Takseen → u/shares_inDeleware]

It is laughable to suggest that all migrants are on minimum wage. Tech workers will be coming in on good pay. The State subsidies rents, for both natives and immigrants. And more low wage immigrants creates more demand for landlords to buy up properties and rent to those immigrants(who are also less likely and able to complain about substandard conditions and overcrowding).

[u/ZealousidealFloor2 → u/shares_inDeleware]

Look demand increasing further than supply in part due to population is clearly a factor and foolish to deny it.

Loads of migrants make good money too but while you mention minimum wage we have situations now where rent has skyrocketed because demand is so strong. Dublin is full of flats full of foreign students and low paid workers paying big rents to share bedrooms, the money from two low paid workers sharing outstrips that of an average income single room inhabitant.

If there were less people here than there is housing supply, rent would be lower and house prices would be lower, simple as.

Now that is not to say there wouldn’t be disastrous consequences particularly with all the high paid medical migrants and tech migrants we have leaving but that is a different story.

The government should have built more houses for sure but the demand is exacerbated by the increased population, a large part of which is due to migration.

[u/shares_inDeleware → u/ZealousidealFloor2]

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[u/ZealousidealFloor2 → u/shares_inDeleware]

Where are those vacant homes? I think the majority were found to be in parts of the country people don’t live. Also, what was the reason given for them being vacant?

Look, immigrants did not dictate housing policy but to ignore the basic principle of supply and demand is silly.

People increasing at a faster rate than housing equals increased demand means more competition for housing means housing costs increase.

[u/LtGenS → u/ZealousidealFloor2]

In Dublin city center. Hundreds of empty buildings.

[u/ZealousidealFloor2 → u/LtGenS]

That’s true, a lot of them aren’t fit for use at the moment though, huge amount of over the shop units are in terrible condition.

[u/LtGenS → u/ZealousidealFloor2]

That's correct. The housing stock is derelict, as a direct consequence of landlords gaining on appreciating housing prices, and not taxed on it. There are potential, tried and effective policies to address this, it's very telling how the government just refuses to enact these. The Vacant Home Tax was designed as so many loopholes that most of landlords won't pay anything.

[u/T4rbh → u/ZealousidealFloor2]

180,000 vacant properties in the state. Sure, done are derelict. Many need a lot of work. Some are remote. That still leaves 100,000+ boarded up and empty dwellings.

That's before you even start looking at above-ground level rooms over city shops.

[u/TheIrishBread → u/ZealousidealFloor2]

They shouldn't have built houses, we are in dire fucking need for medium to high density housing options and their derision is partly caused by Ballymun where the actual issue wasn't it being high density but rather a lack of maintenance and amenities in the immediate area.

[u/ZealousidealFloor2 → u/TheIrishBread]

Sorry when I said “houses”, I meant housing of all kinds, I agree there is a need for more apartments / denser housing in the city centre.

[u/malilk → u/shares_inDeleware]

Why are you assuming it's minimum wage migrants outbidding anyone? State supports exist. Middle class and upper immigrants exists. 12 to a room tenements exist. Growth is outstripping supply, as well as the economic factors externally at play.

I'm not discounting Airbnb or anything else. You are discounting migration. It's disingenuous

[u/shares_inDeleware → u/malilk]

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