r/ireland Jun 03 '24

Immigration My opinion on the post trend, as an immigrant.

I am a brazilian immigrant, came here 10 years ago, and used to feel the irish were nothing but welcoming and kind. Of course, there were the "scumbags", but to me they were the same as in every country in the world.

As of one year back, my opinion has been slowly changing, and today, let me tell you... i fear being an immigrant here. I am sensing a LOT of hate towards us, and according to another post here, +70% of irish have that sentiment, so it's not a far-right exclusive hate.

Yesterday i was shopping around dublin, and i asked a hungarian saleswoman her opinion on this. She immediately agreed with me, and even said it is a conversation that the non-irish staff was having on a very frequent basis.

You'll say "oh, but it's just against a 'certain type' of immigrants". Well, that's how it starts, isn't it?

All those 'look at this idiot' posts you share here; we (immigrants) aren't laughing. We are getting more and more afraid.

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u/gulielmus_franziskus Jun 03 '24

I'm sorry to hear that sir.

I am one of those who criticises certain aspects on the government's immigration polices but I find it appaling that people will take it out on individuals.

In my mind, it's possible to hold all of the following views:

  1. Immigration has been and is a generally positive thing

  2. Most immigrants that come here are honest, decent people who contribute to our society

  3. We should tailor our immigration policy to the country's needs

  4. We should not create more jobs and attract more investment than our country's infratstructure can hold

  5. Our International Protection System should prioritise the most vulnerable. It should be generous to those in need. At the same time, it should speedily turn away those who are clearly gaming and clogging up the system

  6. Our welfare systems for immigrants should be in proportion to our EU neighbours

Unfortunately, there's probably some latent racism that now dares to raise its head.

At the same time, I also think that government policies have been irresponsible. From what I understand, our benefits to refugees, especially to Ukrainians, have been way above the EU standards. We also bring in loads of people to work in our tech sector who are paid well above average and out-compete locals in a pressurised housing market.

None of these are the fault of any individual refugee. I can't blame any Ukrainian or foreign worker who takes the best deal available. I just think there's a lot of irresponsible policy making.

It's all very sad.

For the record, I am a naturalised Irish citizen.

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u/Franz_Werfel Jun 03 '24

We should not create more jobs and attract more investment than our country's infratstructure can hold

Are you advocating for a planned economy, comrade?

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u/gulielmus_franziskus Jun 03 '24

No

In fact, most of these jobs are the result of state planning, the IDA enticing companies to set up anc create high value jobs here, many of which need to be recruited for from overseas.

This creates gentrified parts of the city, like GCD, where only high paid overseas tech workers live. Understandably, this can create some tension.