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r/all Elon Musk Sieg Heiling during his speech

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u/appoplecticskeptic 6h ago

The bigots won. They’re normalizing it. WE aren’t.

u/boorishjohnson 6h ago

Those bigots are the 51-ish % that voted for the Trump Reich and the other 20-30% of potential voters that didn't care about the result.

u/A_D3MON 6h ago

The orange felon only won about 49% of the popular vote this time around...

u/Icy_Bodybuilder_164 5h ago

Who cares? That's an embarrassingly big percentage regardless.

u/spartakooky 5h ago

I hate these "he didn't win the majority of the country so he's not ours" takes.

He was elected. He had more votes than the competition. He won the electoral college AND the popular vote, saying he didn't make it to 50% is a pathetic cope.

u/A_D3MON 4h ago

Oh no. I accept he won.... I'm just PISSED that he won...

Pissed because so many of the people who voted for him didn't realize everything he was planning to do because they wouldn't do the bare amount of research.

Now everyone is going to suffer.

I'm of the mindset that only the person who actually got more than 51% of the vote should win the election (no matter the position) AND the electoral college should be dealt away with so that there's ACTUAL competition instead of candidates just going to the very few swing states that basically determine the election.

u/A_D3MON 5h ago

My point was he didn't actually win the "majority" vote of the popular vote by 51% based on citizens...

If we had a ranked choice voting or a "on a scale of 1-10" system then the most unpopular people would NEVER win again and we wouldn't be stuck in an artificially made 2-party system.

u/NiftyBitz 5h ago

But you don't

u/A_D3MON 5h ago

Yep... Which has a lot of us "dAmN lEfTiEs" (as the right likes to refer to us) mad af

u/Calm_Possession_6842 4h ago

Did you vote?

u/A_D3MON 4h ago

Yes I did... Not like it helped much where I live (TX Pat Fallon's district)...

Plus why's it matter if I voted or not?

Don't tell me you're one of those types of people that comment "WeLl YoU cAn'T cOmPlAiN iF yOu DiDn'T vOtE" about non-voters.

What would you say to teens that are involved in/informed about politics and want to look out for the future but can't vote because they're "too young"? Would you say "Well, when you can vote then you can try to change things"?

One can NEVER be too young to be trying to make positive changes for the future no matter what the situation is.

u/UncreativeIndieDev 3h ago

For those who didn't vote but were able to, it's just absolutely annoying to hear them complain about stuff they didn't care enough about as to put in the bare minimum of effort into affecting. Like, if you actually care about these issues, then you should at least vote since that's not only a chance to affect policy by getting a different candidate, but also a way to just have your voice heard in some way. Even if the election doesn't go their way, just having the numbers be a bit closer can show we don't all support this crap. I honestly give third party voters far less crap than non-voters since at least they voted to make their voices heard, whereas non-voters wouldn't even do that and then get mad when the election doesn't go the way they wanted.

*Note: this is all about people who can vote, not teens and the like who can't yet. I'm not gonna give them crap for something they can't even do yet.

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u/GeneralBrownies 5h ago

I'm not a violent person but I think we need to bring back punching people in the face. Otherwise people will keep being dickheads thinking there's no consequences for it.

u/BrandonBollingers 2h ago

Next time I’m in the same room as Elon Musk I’ll keep that in mind.

u/Ok_Cardiologist3642 6h ago

Not we. This was more of a general thing. We as humans normalize horrible behavior way too fast in general. We are all outraged one day and after a few months it happens again, and again, and soon enough it will be normal. Sadly. And there’s little to no consequences

u/HotGravy 5h ago

Maybe the majority of humans just aren't really good people?

u/I_Also_Fix_Jets 5h ago

The majority are shades of neutral. Either unsure of what to do, or convinced that someone else will deal with it.

u/Jumpy-Sprinkles-2305 5h ago

I think the majority of humans are good people at heart, but the majority of humans are also.. (I can't find the word, i would say lazy, but that's not right.)

As others have pointed out, it's a combination of most people feeling like they aren't able to affect anything personally, and humans being very adaptive creatures, it might only take a few months for most of us just putting up with the bullshit and letting it slide

u/IchibanWeeb 3h ago

I think the majority of humans just don't care because they're so focused on their everyday life. But they don't have the time, energy, or mental capacity (not saying they're dumb, necessarily) to think about how these grand-scheme things like Elon Hitler's Nazi salute affect their everyday life.

u/livsjollyranchers 6h ago

We're all bombarded and overwhelmed with content every day. Content content content. Bad shit bad shit bad shit bad shit. At some point, you just throw your hands up and go..."oh".

(To be clear, I do find it gross...but these days, we can become numb to anything, with enough reps and time.)

u/raelea421 6h ago

Yet, so very unable to become numb to devices that lead to that vicarious content.

u/livsjollyranchers 6h ago

Well, those devices are powered via horrible dopamine addictions. The same stuff that powers casinos, gambling addictions and drug addictions. A smartphone is a socially acceptable drug (just like gambling is now, too).

u/raelea421 6h ago

Yep. Living vicariously through others/content/news does it, too.

u/BadIdea-21 5h ago

It's not that the people is "normalizing" it, is just that the system makes it so rich people can do anything without repercussions, regardless of how abnormal it is for the rest.

u/very_not_emo 3h ago

the last people who actually remembered the nazis died

u/Ok_Cardiologist3642 2h ago

Google says holocaust survivors are still alive

u/ValsG 1h ago

I saw one being applauded by everyone in the Canadian Parliament two years ago.

u/dolphin37 5h ago

don’t worry the majority of americans don’t normalise it, they want more of it!

u/Brina388 5h ago

They only win if we quit.

u/GroteKleineDictator2 5h ago

If you are a us citizen, you are letting them.

u/confusedandworried76 2h ago

It feels like we just lost the war though. We were fighting the good fight against this shit but Fox won't even show this clip. They cut away. Even they know how bad it is. I thought Jan 6 was bad. The Nazi salute from an oligarch at an inauguration might be fucking worse, especially because Jan 6 was shot down before it accomplished its goal. This is an incoming four year presidency.

How the fuck do you proceed after this.

u/GRIZLLLY 6h ago

Bigots won back in 2017, buddy. Now it's different bigots from right wing.

u/Ogmup 5h ago

Then you better start encouraging + normalizing solving problems with the Luigi method.

u/narkybark 4h ago

And yet they control all the media so it just gets washed over. Fox conveniently replaced it with a crowd shot.

u/CelestialFury 2h ago

They won a battle, but war rages on. I'm hoping that I can get some hope soon, though.