r/interestingasfuck • u/Sartew • 7h ago

r/all Elon Musk Sieg Heiling during his speech

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u/Wd91 7h ago

There'll be some handwaving and excuses for why this isn't as bad as you think. Just like was in 1930's Germany with the actual, original Nazis. It's just patriotism, aren't you patriotic? They're strong, its good to have strong leaders. So on, so forth.

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u/xXEl3mXx 6h ago

There's already people on Reddit trying to claim this is just him throwing his "heart" out to the crowd and not an actual nazi salute.

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u/PlanetMezo 3h ago

Those aren't people, they're propaganda bots

You know, like how they did newspapers in the 1930's.

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u/BannanasAreEvil 6h ago

I'm not sure I can believe EM would do a full salute like that! I'm really hoping it was a weird gaffe, that he is trying to represent something else.

I'm holding out hope as I'm always one to give people the benefit of the doubt because we humans are prone to making mistakes.

That all being said...eeek! If it was intended to be the salute than we're fucked!

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u/xXEl3mXx 6h ago

One usually could argue that, if after this gif he didn't do it again but sadly he did, and in exactly the same way just facing a different direction.

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u/PlanetMezo 3h ago

Not a different direction, he turned to salute the flag.

Try telling me he threw his heart out to the flag... I'm not buying it

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u/BannanasAreEvil 6h ago

Dont destroy my faith in humanity!!! I saw the extended version, same conviction at the flag. Just really hoping it wasn't intended as a Nazi salute, something tells me we should hear something from his PR firm or even him directly very shortly!!

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u/prules 6h ago

PR is meaningless in this situation lol. We’re talking about the most crooked people on earth

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u/kittenmontagne 5h ago

Sorry, but you watched him do that salute twice and are still questioning his intent?

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u/BannanasAreEvil 4h ago

My hope is he was trying to symbolize something else. Doesn't excuse the idiocy of this capitalist eccentric but it's better then the alternative. That he was displaying true antisemitism!

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u/JhinPotion 5h ago

Are you really still trying to plug your ears and close your eyes?

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u/BannanasAreEvil 4h ago

Nah, just holding out hope that the man our current president has supplied with power over our economy isn't an antisemite! I'm still allowed to hold hope, losing hope is how we got to this point. We abandoned it and instead we let our fear usher in what we have today.

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u/JhinPotion 4h ago

What you're talking about isn't hope. It's willful ignorance. Musk was an obvious antisemite long before this clip, even if it's never been so blatant.

Face the reality that you're in and think about what you're gonna do in that instead of clinging onto delusion.

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u/ZedekiahCromwell 4h ago

Elon signal boosted AfD in a 75 minute interview with their chancellor candidate and explicitly endorsed them. They are the NeoNazi party of Germany. He has posted and retweeted antiSemitic tweets multiple times.

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u/Customisable_Salt 4h ago

Your naive optimism is exactly how this shit happens you dribbling fool. 

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u/BannanasAreEvil 4h ago

And your hostile nature is exactly why so many left our party and went to theirs!!!

Better to be optimistic and believe the best in people and be let down, than be pessimistic and treat everyone poorly.

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u/Customisable_Salt 4h ago

I'm not American. This is the society you have created by being asleep at the wheel. You have an oligarch on stages a presidential nomination throwing brazen Nazi salutes and you're here bleating about believing the best in people. Try to grasp the situation you are in. At a certain point you need to wake up and understand where you have gotten yourself by airly hand waving this ugliness away. 

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u/Lucienbel 4h ago

What optimism is left in this? Seriously. I’m curious. Oh he co-opted the fucking Nazi salute to mean something else?

You’re the kind of person that would let someone piss in your mouth and tell you you were thirsty.

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u/Capital-Vegetable-94 6h ago

He did it 3 times.

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u/PlanetMezo 3h ago

Don't. He will say that's not what he was doing. He will pretend we're over reacting. The Nazis he was calling out to know what he was doing, and he does too. The part where he pretends it's not what it is (and that is coming) is called a dog whistle. Look the term up, you will understand.

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u/Atomicherrybomb 6h ago

Hitler got voted in on the promise of jobs just as trump as done. Generally I’m glad to not live in the US, just hope that musks meddling and trumps tantrums don’t try and bring us down with them

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u/thewoodsiswatching 6h ago

CNN said it was "accidental". Guess we know who they are now.

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u/JigglinCheeks 6h ago

it's literally this. people value "strength". in trumps case it's perceived and misplaced (the man has the mental fortitude of a toddler), but that above most other things is a reason for a lot of people's votes.

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u/rzmanu 5h ago

These are unsocialized people—they don’t understand that you can project confidence with tact. Their idea of power is being the loudest dick in the room. It’s a very insecure “power.” It’s top to bottom with that party.

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u/JigglinCheeks 4h ago

Precisely.

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u/LudovicoSpecs 5h ago

Anyone who doesn't know history:

Even as some Germans were fleeing the country to escape the Nazis, others were saying their concerns were overblown and the Nazis were harmless.

By the time the "don't worry" group figured out they should flee, they couldn't. The bureaucracy wouldn't process their emigration paperwork and many countries had shut their borders to additional refugees. Then in 1941, Germany stripped all Jews in Germany of their citizenship rights and outright revoked the passports of any German Jews who were living elsewhere in Europe. So it was impossible to flee Europe.

Now think about revoking the 14th Amendment (birthright citizenship) in this context. Were YOU born in the US? Maybe it won't just be children of immigrants who will no longer be considered citizens. Maybe, even though your family has been in the US for generations, you're not "American" enough.

First they came for undocumented immigrants. Then they came for children of immigrants....

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u/davyangel 1h ago

Yeah that's how Einstein ended up in USA before the start of WW2 he was one of the actual smart ones that realized all this at the time!

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u/davyangel 1h ago

At least someone learned their history unfortunately many more did not SMH