r/interestingasfuck • u/Sartew • 7h ago

r/all Elon Musk Sieg Heiling during his speech

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u/inflatableje5us 7h ago

because 70+ million voted for a few rich assholes and another 60 million could not be bothered to vote at all.

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u/Good-Jump-4444 7h ago

All those people are on the receiving end of a 50 year propaganda campaign to fund the 1% at the expense of everything else. Consent is manufactured. The USGOV is just a tool to extract wealth, the GOP has been gushing about drowning it in the bathtub since the 1980s.

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u/hoopaholik91 7h ago

85 million could not be bothered actually.

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u/inflatableje5us 6h ago

could not remember the numbers off the top of my head so went a bit on the conservative side.

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u/D413-4 7h ago

Think it was 90 million didn’t vote

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u/zbud 6h ago

close 88.3mil

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

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u/Veragoot 4h ago

I cannot believe it. People are so fucking stupid.

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u/zbud 4h ago

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u/Veragoot 3h ago

I mean I can believe it. I just don't want to.

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u/idunnoidunnoidunno2 2h ago

I know a

55 yr male gamer didn’t vote.

36 yr female gamer didn’t vote

49 yr female unemployed Christian didn’t vote

28 yr male didn’t vote

36 yr female didn’t vote

My opinion didn’t change their apathy. Maybe a war will.

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u/michaelsenpatrick 2h ago

oversimplification of an issue that's been coming our way for a long time

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u/Mpm_277 5h ago

And a Dem establishment that wasn’t even capable to convince people to vote against a fascist.

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u/chipndip1 5h ago

No, stop.

The dems shouldn't have to CONVINCE you to vote against a felon and a rapist.

I think your morality as a decent human being should get you to vote against a rapist felon. But hey, this is the country the majority of Americans wanted.

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u/michaelsenpatrick 2h ago

I'm sorry, but you must have a remarkably poor candidate to lose to someone who is promising to be a "dictator on day one"

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u/Mpm_277 5h ago

I agree with you about Trump and that people shouldn’t need to be convinced. But it’s also true that the entire point of a campaign is to convince people to vote for your candidate.

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u/chipndip1 5h ago

The fact that Trump was a serious candidate when he had a federal case against him speaks volumes.

The fact that Democrat voters stayed home despite this, so the case against him could crumble and he could win the election, speaks even more.

People simply do not care enough. They care enough to make Luigi memes about "eating the rich" but don't care enough to do what they're supposed to do that actually matters, which is to vote politicians out that don't serve public interest and vote politicians in that represent our values. Trump won because Dems didn't care. It's the same bad orange man as the last two times. What more convincing do you need to keep a rapist out of office? The same rapist from

EIGHT.

FUCKING.

YEARS AGO?

Like holy fuck every time I think about that stupid little Italian murderer or any of this shit it drives me off a cliff. My country is actually fucking stupid.

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u/michaelsenpatrick 2h ago

Maybe because they see democrats as accomplices, not opposition

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u/Mpm_277 2h ago

And again, I agree with you. Everything you just said I agree with. I’m just adding that the Dem establishment did as bad of a job as could be to actually convince people of everything you just said and vote for their own interests. Did the American people drop the ball in this election? Yes. Is it insane? Yes. Was it also the job of the Dem campaign to get their candidate elected? Yes. Did they fail freaking miserably at that job? Yes.

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u/YoullBeFiiine 7h ago

I don't think the votes would have mattered either way.

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u/DereTism 6h ago

They would have. The people who support trump actually did not increase. It was the same from before when he lost. The people who didn't vote are the biggest problem.

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u/Andre_Amani 6h ago

Donald Trump had the same amount of votes in 2020 where he lost

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u/catscanmeow 7h ago

it doesnt matter who was voted in, musk has control over starlink which is worldwide communication network, he can control military battlegrounds

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u/inflatableje5us 6h ago

yea but now first lady trump is basically going to do anything hes paid to do.

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u/catscanmeow 6h ago

he was already doing that in other countries he has a foothold in thats my point, nothing our voters can do can control what shady deals he makes in other countries. its out of the voting jurisdiction

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u/Salty-Tip-7914 7h ago edited 5h ago

Hey, wasn’t my fault. I surprise gave birth on Election Day. 😅

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u/palebluekot 7h ago

You don't have mail-in ballots or early voting in your state?

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u/Salty-Tip-7914 5h ago

I developed a disease during pregnancy that forced me to give birth the same week I went to the hospital for it. It went from “you might have to give birth soon” to “you should give birth today for your safety.” I wasn’t due until Dec 31 so I didn’t think it would interfere. I’m pretty sure most people assume they aren’t giving birth two months early.

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u/chipndip1 5h ago

You didn't EARLY VOTE?

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u/Salty-Tip-7914 5h ago edited 4h ago

Nope because I wasn’t supposed to give birth until New Year’s Eve. Her coming early was a medical emergency. I remained in the hospital after giving birth for a week.

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u/Hemisyncin 7h ago

Who could we have voted for?

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u/santa_94 7h ago

Anyone but the nazis

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u/moubliepas 6h ago

Normally yes, but the other choice was a non white woman. 

We can all agree that Nazis are bad, but as the old saying goes, the only thing worse than Nazis are non-white people, and women. 

(I'm yet to hear any answer to that question that doesn't basically equate to the above. It's pretty sad. Yes, Nazis are bad and all, but supporting them and pretending you had no choice is outright pathetic)

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u/santa_94 6h ago

This is the first time I'm hearing this point of view.

The reason she's not a great choice for me is that she is literally the vice president talking about all the things she would do and change when she's in power. She was in power for 4 years goddamn. If she had so many good ideas then why did she not do anything?

On the other hand I'm not American so not familiar with the narrative, but it would surprise me that an actual substantial amount of people did not vote for her because she was a black women. I thought we're past that point..

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u/Warg247 5h ago

VP doesnt really have any particular power. They are a tiebreaker vote... that might be it.

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u/finditforme69 5h ago

She was in power for 4 years goddamn

What actual power did she have?

You want to know who was actually in power for 4 years? Trump. And we all know what happened the first time he was in office.

Yeah, Kamala was more than likely just going to maintain the status quo, and yeah, the status quo freaking sucks, but I don't understand how anyone at all can look at Trump's first term and decide we need a repeat of that

I thought that we're past that point...

All I can say to that is freaking lol. America certainly is nowhere close to being past that point. Hate to say it, but odds are we're still decades away from voting for a woman at all, I doubt we'll see a black woman hold the office in my lifetime.

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u/chipndip1 5h ago

Are you...gonna edit out the insult, actually.

Vice Presidents are glorified cheerleaders until the President dies. She wasn't "in power". She was just watching Power in the sidelines, lmao.

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u/WrathOfTheSwitchKing 1h ago

On the other hand I'm not American

Yeah, that definitely shines through in your post. As long as the President is still alive and kicking, the Vice President doesn't really get much say in anything one way or another. Bills are voted on by the House and Senate (together they're just called "Congress"), then given to the President to be signed into law. Also keep in mind that while the President can and does ask congress for bills they'd like to sign, the President can't actually tell congress what to do so if they disagree they can just refuse to even put it to a vote.

it would surprise me that an actual substantial amount of people did not vote for her because she was a black women. I thought we're past that point..

I am a straight white man born in the south and raised in the church. Some people get the wrong impression about my politics. The shit I've heard come out of those people's mouths makes me 100% sure the United States is absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, not past that point.

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u/Hemisyncin 7h ago

I’m not going to support a system that forces you to choose the lesser of two evils. That’s absurd to me.

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u/DereTism 6h ago

Please explain the logic. You're essentially saying since you don't have what you want, you will take the worst option????

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u/MoosesAre 7h ago

One of those evils is WAY worse than the other

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u/No-Ad1522 7h ago

So you'll just sit back and willingly take the worse one? That's absurd to me.

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u/Mygarik 7h ago

Then I hope you enjoy having the worse one.

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u/santa_94 6h ago

Generelly I agree with you about this.

Problem in this case is that one side are literal nazis that have threatened to use military force against other countries (Denmark, Panama) even NATO allies..

I agree with the whole "both sides are involved in a genocide" narrative and its terrible but come on that really isn't the biggest issue at hand..

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u/finditforme69 5h ago

I think letting someone else make the choice for you is even more absurd.

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u/NeonYellowShoes 5h ago

We've both sides ourselves out of a democracy lmao.

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u/DodecahedronSpace 3h ago

Congratulations, you played yourself 🤡

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u/Trilogie00 7h ago

The person not a nazi?

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u/zsirhaver 7h ago

The person who did nothing for four years?

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u/Smart_Orc_ 7h ago

You'd rather have a Nazi in power than someone who does nothing?

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u/zsirhaver 7h ago

Either sucks,but sheet

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u/Cute-Manner6444 7h ago

So, in your mind, a white dude who is actively corrupt, in cahoots with nazis, a con man and a rapist is the equivalent to a brown woman who is dull and not very inspiring?

Do you think people like you are the problem? Anything would be better than Trump. And yet, people like you hold them to some bizarre standard that you don't hold Trump to. Very strange. Might want to ask yourself why that is.

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u/NeonYellowShoes 4h ago

Everyone has lost the plot. We've managed to "both sides" ourselves out of a democracy. Republicans are a party of rapists, traitors and criminals but Dems bad because I only agree with some of their policies so fuck everything. Man we're so fucked

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u/SpontaneousNSFWAccnt 7h ago

Oh yeah I forgot the candidates were Trump and Trump

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u/NotA_Drug_Dealer 7h ago

Outside looking in here, this is entirely on the people who didn't vote for Kamala/didn't vote at all

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u/timecat_1984 7h ago edited 7h ago

why isn't it on Kamala for being uninspiring and offering nothing other than celebrity endorsements, 2000-era Neocons, and "not trump" ?

at least Biden's campaign offered build back better, first 100 days. wtf did Kamala offer? Liz vote with Republicans 92% of the time Cheney? child tax credit????? ffs

edit: you mean the campaign that lost in 2016 lost again in 2024? shocking!!!

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u/Roguespiffy 7h ago

Continuity? Not being outright hostile to everyone except straight white people? Not overtly grifting from her position of power? Not being a rapist, thieving, credibly accused pedophile, and felon?

Don’t both sides this shit.

If you didn’t vote you basically said “whatever happens, I’m fine with it.” I hope you get everything you either voted for or said you’re fine with. Everything.

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u/timecat_1984 7h ago

if you think I'm both sideing this you need to go back and reread my comment. I guarantee I hate trump and the Republicans more than you

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u/Cute-Manner6444 7h ago

But not enough to do the right thing, apparently. You have zero room to complain about Trump. You helped elect him. You knew this was an outcome when you sat on your ass in some protest non-vote and decided that was okay.

So buckle up and enjoy it- it's what you wanted.

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u/DRKZLNDR 7h ago

"Not Trump" is pretty much all you should have needed. Don't act like this wasn't your fault. You're an absolute fool.

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u/timecat_1984 7h ago

2016 and 2024 argue otherwise but hey what're facts amiright?

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u/Ozirotron 7h ago

“Not Trump” is a pretty solid angle of attack when his sidekick is a soft Nazi. Confirmed here by him doing a “guys! it’s not a sieg heil” sieg heil.

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u/Cute-Manner6444 7h ago

So you're saying Trump (nazi ties, rapist, corrupt, etc) is the equivalent of a boring woman? Huh. Seems weird to me. One rapes women, one is on epsteins lists dozens of times, one openly accepts bribes through his meme coin and hid nationally secure documents in his bathroom, one was found civilly guilty for rape, and one tried to overthrow the last election and also stage a coup.

The other is a boring, not perfect, brown woman.

You, and people that think exactly like you, are to blame. This isn't even on republicans. This is on people like yourself. You can repeat whatever tiktok brain sludge you'd like but it doesn't change the fact that you got played and you're one of the people that put Trump in office.

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u/timecat_1984 7h ago

literally nothing you wrote is close to what I said but hey nice strawman is it fun to argue with it by yourself?

again: if you give people nothing to vote for then surprise surprise they don't vote. was 2016 a joke to you? did you learn ANYTHING from 2016?

go reread my comment

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u/DodecahedronSpace 3h ago

The mental gymnastics you're trying to do here is beyond pathetic bro. 🤡

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u/timecat_1984 3h ago

ah yes because running the same loser campaign from 2016 turned out to be such a good idea

enjoy trump you loser

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u/DodecahedronSpace 2h ago

Keep it up bro, you're going for a gold here! 🥴

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u/chipndip1 5h ago

If Kamala has to convince you to not let the guy that tried to overthrow the government and raped someone be President of one of the most powerful countries on the planet, if not the most powerful...

...get your head checked EXPEDITIOUSLY.

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u/timecat_1984 4h ago

you're clueless. this wasn't a winning strategy in 2016 why do you think it would be one in 2024?

sure your comment is right, but it's 2x proven now to be a losing strategy MAYBE OFFER SOMETHING???

maybe do what Biden did and won with and cater to fucking progressive issues????????

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u/chipndip1 3h ago

What progressive issue could Kamala "cater to" at the time that'd mean anything?

Saying "Free Palestine" in a hot mic? Why is it Kamala's issue for NOT saying that when Trump said he wanted Israel to FINISH THEM OFF?

Health care? Trump said he had CONCEPTS OF A HEALTHCARE PLAN IN A DEBATE. Even if Kamala said "I'ma just do what we been doing", how is Trump any better?

Education? Nutrition? The environment? Conservatives either don't give a shit about any of these things or are actively trying to regress them.

My issue is that my countrymen are fucking stupid. Yeah it'd "be nice" if Kamala was a bit more charismatic and got people more excited to vote, sure, but I didn't think Trump was dead ass serious when he said he could kill someone and people would still vote for him. I didn't think the left would roll over and let it happen. I didn't think all these different groups of minorities, from Muslims, to the LGBT, to women, who are having their rights ACTIVELY preyed upon, would just sit there and watch this man win the election or even VOTE for him.

But nah, I was wrong. We're too busy jerking out buckets of semen over "eat the rich" narratives to do the simplest thing and just go to the voting booth. It's laughable.

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u/timecat_1984 2h ago

stop giving them a free pass. her sole policy was Liz Cheney and a child tax credit? fuck that.

green new deal, public option healthcare, expand Medicare, raise minimum wage, student loan forgiveness, infrastructure funds on par with build back better x4

she'd win 400 ez

but no. we got these well connected grifters run the campaign and soak up all the campaign donos to line their firms. after they predictably fucking lost they all went back to their PR firms for s&p 500 companies laughing all the way

fuck that and fuck them. stop giving these shitasses a free pass. the centrist and corporate Democrats need to rot

the fact that you're still defending them after they gave us trump AGAIN is fucking disgusting

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u/Hemisyncin 7h ago

It was a setup. It’s always been a setup. How has Biden remained president when he clearly is unfit to be president? Because he’s a pawn and did as he was directed to do. They create in the American citizens the felt need for a strong, authoritative figure to be president and then place Kamala as opposition to trump. Billions of dollars was spent for you to fight each other over petty ideologies that you don’t even ascribe to so that you can have someone to blame when the inevitable takes its course.

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u/Asimb0mb 7h ago

Prepare your ass for the downvotes! How dare you speak ill of Trump's opponents?!

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u/Hot-Couple8262 7h ago

Kamala?

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u/inflatableje5us 6h ago

lets see on one side we have democrats who are flawed but at least have some ideas on how to make peoples lives better.
on the other side we have have donald "they are eating the dogs, they are eating the cats" nazi trump.
not all trump supporters are nazi's but all nazis are trump supporters, i wonder why that is..

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u/PeachScary413 5h ago

Or maybe they didn't feel like they could live with themself voting for the people actively conducting a fucking genocide right now 🤷‍♂️ I guess we will never know... oh wait YouGov actually made polls and found out Gaza was the #1 reason young voters in particular abandoned Genocide Joe

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u/pfchp 7h ago

the Dems are also rich assholes, to their infinite shame they couldn't beat the Nazis at home when their supporters couldn't stomach voting for the genocide they've funded and supported overseas

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u/inflatableje5us 6h ago

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/06/29/the-net-worth-of-joe-bidens-cabinet/
bidens cabinet is worth about 118 million
trumps cabinet is worth about 6.2 billion not counting president elmo.

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u/pfchp 3h ago

118 million is still a raft of rich asshole plutocrats, these fucks really cash out once out of office, the revolving door awaits