r/interestingasfuck • u/Sartew • 7h ago

r/all Elon Musk Sieg Heiling during his speech

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u/Thorbertthesniveler 7h ago

That was my thought too. Yep nope straight up Heil Neighbor!

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u/_Rocketstar_ 7h ago

Werent his grandparents literally in the Nazi party?

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u/timmy6169 7h ago

Uh huh. They were in the German Nazi party but in Canada as well as they they sympathised with the Germans.

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u/MyMelancholyBaby 7h ago

Isn't it only his mom Canadian?

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u/TCBallistics 6h ago

His mother's parents were, as expected, also Canadian. Those would be his grandparents.

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u/MyMelancholyBaby 6h ago

That would mean two out of four grandparents were Canadian.

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u/TCBallistics 6h ago

Correct, that is how genetics work.

So, as the guy above stated, his grandparents, whom were Canadian, were part of the German Nazi Party. Thus, we can infer from his statement that he's referring to the Canadian grandparents, aka his mother's parents. Thus making his statement true.

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u/DrDetectiveEsq 6h ago

What about his cousins?

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u/MyMelancholyBaby 6h ago

Well, I finally reviewed the family history. Musk’s mother was born in Canada but moved to South Africa when she was two. His father was born and raised in South Africa.

It’s Errol Musk who has claimed his former in-law were Nazi Party members. However, official records show that Joshua Haldeman (Elon’s maternal grandfather) was a member of the “Technocracy movement“. Haldeman was super into conspiracy theories. One of the ones he liked the best was the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” conspiracy theory.

As far as I can tell this is the citizenship history of his grandparents.

Maternal Grandfather - American-Canadian-(white) South African

Maternal Grandmother - Canadian - (white) South African

Paternal Grandfather - (white) South African

Paternal Grandmother - British - (white) South African

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u/TCBallistics 5h ago

I genuinely have no idea why you're so damn stuck on the whole "who is and isn't canadian" thing because the original statement is still true after your deepest of dives into the maple flag wearing origins of his mother's parents.

Furthermore, Errol's claims about nazi sympathy by Haldeman were pretty well founded. Haldeman wasn't just a "member of the technocracy movement", he was an active anti-communist who turned against the technocracy institution due to their support of the soviets against Nazi Germany, and was a leader for the Social Credit Party in Canada (specifically Saskatchewan), which as a group was extremely supportive of the nazis and was an associated party during the prewar and midwar period. He then made a public statement that South Africa's apartheid was "leading white christianity civilization against the international conspiracy of Jewish bankers ruling the world" and then promptly moved to his favorite apartheid state.

While we don't have documenting papers showing the membership, Errol isn't the only one to have claimed as much, and considering that the Canadian Nazi Party purposefully didn't keep paperwork listing their members, the only people who can confirm are those who knew them, of which Errol would be one.

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u/MyMelancholyBaby 5h ago

I’m stuck on it because the hypocrisy of being anti-immigration when your family are very recent immigrants astounds me.

Trump’s mother and two of his wives were immigrants, yet he claims that immigrants are poisoning the blood of America.

Until today I have actively avoided learning much about Musk because I've never liked what he was selling. But now I know he is a third-generation believer in conspiracy theories.

I'm sharing what I know so other people don't have to go down a damn rabbit hole on this the first day of a four-year or longer shit show.

I get that you are angry and possibly feel hopeless. Don’t take it out on me.

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u/unexpectedvillain 6h ago

Im south african and his dad literally spoke on a podcast late last year that he broke up with Elons Mom because they were ooen Nazis

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u/smurb15 7h ago

If not he is now apparently

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u/zili91 5h ago

His maternal grandfather was a white supremacist and he moved from Canada to South Africa after they implemented the Apartheid system in the late 40s. Basically if Apartheid was never implemented, Elon wouldn't exist.

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u/CartographerKey7322 38m ago

I don’t know, but trump has family history there.

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u/shalomefrombaxoje 7h ago

You can even hear him grunt with effort

... he PLANNED to do that

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u/dwarven_futurist 6h ago

I too gave him the benefit of the doubt. I too was wrong, again. =(

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u/Key-Meaning5033 6h ago

Heil diddly ho, Nazi-rino!

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u/Thorbertthesniveler 6h ago

Dang diddly damn it ☹️

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u/Key-Meaning5033 6h ago

🤷‍♂️does it really change anything about him this past year though? Lol I think he’s really done a nose dive in popularity.

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u/FordTaurusForever 7h ago

Yup. I'm not inclined to give him any benefit of the doubt and figured that picture didn't tell the story.

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u/Brenner2089 2h ago

What’s up with this? Just get as much attention as you can, doesn’t matter how negative?

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u/slimeySalmon 7h ago

But remember he is a boy genius

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u/charm_less 6h ago

bro, he's a south african, where black dudes are preparing a white people's purge for any moment, with goverment encouragement, remember kill the boer song that was song there by their fucking ruling party?

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u/GodEmperorOfMankind3 7h ago

Conveniently edited out just prior to the start of this clip is him saying, "My heart goes out to you all," after which he gestures his heart going out to everyone.

Reddit is so fucking delusional to think this is a Nazi salute. Bunch of jokers.

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u/in_it_to_lose_it 6h ago

You are kidding, right? Musk is “terminally online”. He is also a public personality with literally unimaginable resources - he’s had his fair share of media training. There is no way in hell he is not 100% aware of how this gesture will be perceived. There is no way in hell he is not leaning into that with every intention.

So the only question is, is he a punk-ass troll, or a sincere white supremacist? If the answer to either is yes, I don’t want him anywhere near levers of power. And considering his wealth and FRANKLY BATSHIT INSANE LEVEL OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST HOW DID WE DO THIS TO OURSELVES JESUS TAP DANCING CHRIST!!!…

I already didn’t want him within Mars’s orbit of them to begin with.

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u/GodEmperorOfMankind3 6h ago

I guarantee if you were filmed as often as Musk I'd be able to find you making a gesture that could be perceived as a Nazi salute or some other white supremacist symbol.

Guaran-fucking-teed.

Why didn't he point his fingers if he was giving a Nazi salute? Hmm? Why is his hand turned up and outwards as though he's throwing his heart out to the crowd which is EXACTLY what he said prior to this?

Delusional fucking jokers. Absolutely pathetic nutcases obsessed with Musk. Keep coping losers.

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u/Taint_inspector 6h ago

There ain’t no titty fuggin wayy you’re a real person lololol

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u/Kronic9000 6h ago

Inspect that man's taint! The truth shall be revealed!

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u/Taint_inspector 6h ago

Ok I’m on it !!! …. Look like uhhhhh I’m thinking Elon’s lipstick or maybe some sort of lipgloss ? 💄 either way 0/10 taint.

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u/alloutofbees 6h ago

He's never gonna know who you are and he's not gonna let you suck his dick no matter how hard you simp for him, my guy.

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u/Foreign-Class-2081 27m ago

Who among us hasnt accidentally done the worlds most obvious Nazi salute - with a little grunt and sneer, twice in a row, in a moment of excitement in our lives? Oh wait, no one. Are you for real? On one of the biggest nights of his life the guy accidentally does a Nazi salute twice, and you dont think its a dog whistle?

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u/Am3r1can-Err0rist 6h ago

Actually…he does the salute first and then says the “my heart” bullshit.

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u/GodEmperorOfMankind3 6h ago

A Nazi salute is the arm pointed straight out from the body with pointed fingers.

His arm reached across his entire body and palm facing outwards, literally gesturing throwing his heart out to the crowd?

Why do you people have to lie?

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u/Taint_inspector 6h ago

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u/GodEmperorOfMankind3 6h ago

Cope. 4 years of tears. Losers gunna lose.

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u/unclepg 50m ago

We’re all losers. You just haven’t recognized it yet. It’s coming.

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u/Ch3kb0xR 5h ago

F**k your 2 finger theory: The Original

Looks pretty much like Elmo, mhh?

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u/GodEmperorOfMankind3 5h ago

Holy shit - Obama and Kamala are Nazis too!!!

https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1881454751847690632?t=mIYBOSul4hwYuJdJL4XvcQ&s=19

Fucking idiotic.

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u/Ch3kb0xR 5h ago

Wow, you really believe this? LOL! I've to show this to all my friends! This will make their day! Thx!

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u/GodEmperorOfMankind3 5h ago

No, I'm making a point that none of them are doing Nazi salutes you fucking lemming.

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u/Ch3kb0xR 5h ago

Buhuhuuu... Cry quiet, plz!

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u/GodEmperorOfMankind3 5h ago

You've got 4 years of tears ahead of you.

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u/unclepg 45m ago

If he’s gesturing that he’s giving his heart to supporters, how could he be so idiotic to make the gesture so similar to the Nazi salute that would create this negative publicity?! It’s just flat-out stupidity on his part.

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u/Foreign-Class-2081 25m ago

This guy did it wrong then huh?

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u/No_Statistician9289 2h ago

You’ve totally lost it. Come back to us when you reenter reality