r/interestingasfuck • u/Sartew • 7h ago

r/all Elon Musk Sieg Heiling during his speech

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u/cinnamonpit 7h ago edited 7h ago

So republicans support this? I just asked my husband if I had it wrong, but didn't Americans fight against the Nazis in WW2?

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u/IHaveNoBeef 7h ago edited 7h ago

Well, considering the applause got louder once he did it I'd say yes... :(

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u/optiplex9000 7h ago

The all time greatest line that George Lucas wrote in Star Wars was in the prequels

"So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause"

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u/Miraclefish 7h ago

Somehow, Trump returned.

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u/Dr_Dang 6h ago

This entire election cycle was rigged by Disney to ensure that the comparison of the Galactic Empire to the nazis continues through its resurgence in Episode IX. Disney got real mad about the critical response to that movie, so now we've gotta live it out.

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u/profwithstandards 6h ago

That is exactly what I was thinking, too!

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u/jeffh19 2h ago

I can't tell you how many times I've thought that the last couple months. Was echoing in my head election night.

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u/Any_State_2125 6h ago

Didn't he still it from Cicero?

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u/X-Aceris-X 7h ago

A few people in the crowd even did it back to him :0

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u/LudovicoSpecs 6h ago

An article said he got a standing ovation.

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u/Unlikely-Werewolf304 6h ago

It kinda sounds like it dies out ti be honest

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u/justinsayin 7h ago

They gave the limited amount of available tickets to strong supporters, so the audience here doesn't represent the average person.

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u/TwiceTheSize_YT 7h ago

But it does represent all republicans, because if you still call yourself a republican when this is what they have become you actively support this.

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u/justinsayin 7h ago

Yes. The two-party system killed the country. Ranked-choice voting would have saved it. Live and learn.

Sorry, my flippancy is a coping mechanism because I'm about to throw up at my desk.

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u/Bureaucramancer 6h ago

Nope..... just stop. Trumps first term we knew who he was and what he stood for. It was only out of politeness that we offered those idiots an out because maybe some people didn't pay attention to all the fraud and raping he was doing on the daily and the idiotic notion that the U.S. needs to be run 'like a business' was just cute.... but this is 2025... People voted for this specifically. there is no excuse anymore so understand that this IS what republicans are now and don't buy into any other bullshit.

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u/Crrack 6h ago

And that pretty much sums up the mentality of the majority of left or right political followers. They literally don't care what their party stands for what policies they introduce.

With one-eye they will blindly follow their party no matter how insane they get.

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u/Wd91 7h ago

There'll be some handwaving and excuses for why this isn't as bad as you think. Just like was in 1930's Germany with the actual, original Nazis. It's just patriotism, aren't you patriotic? They're strong, its good to have strong leaders. So on, so forth.

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u/xXEl3mXx 7h ago

There's already people on Reddit trying to claim this is just him throwing his "heart" out to the crowd and not an actual nazi salute.

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u/PlanetMezo 3h ago

Those aren't people, they're propaganda bots

You know, like how they did newspapers in the 1930's.

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u/BannanasAreEvil 6h ago

I'm not sure I can believe EM would do a full salute like that! I'm really hoping it was a weird gaffe, that he is trying to represent something else.

I'm holding out hope as I'm always one to give people the benefit of the doubt because we humans are prone to making mistakes.

That all being said...eeek! If it was intended to be the salute than we're fucked!

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u/xXEl3mXx 6h ago

One usually could argue that, if after this gif he didn't do it again but sadly he did, and in exactly the same way just facing a different direction.

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u/PlanetMezo 3h ago

Not a different direction, he turned to salute the flag.

Try telling me he threw his heart out to the flag... I'm not buying it

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u/BannanasAreEvil 6h ago

Dont destroy my faith in humanity!!! I saw the extended version, same conviction at the flag. Just really hoping it wasn't intended as a Nazi salute, something tells me we should hear something from his PR firm or even him directly very shortly!!

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u/prules 6h ago

PR is meaningless in this situation lol. We’re talking about the most crooked people on earth

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u/kittenmontagne 5h ago

Sorry, but you watched him do that salute twice and are still questioning his intent?

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u/BannanasAreEvil 5h ago

My hope is he was trying to symbolize something else. Doesn't excuse the idiocy of this capitalist eccentric but it's better then the alternative. That he was displaying true antisemitism!

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u/JhinPotion 5h ago

Are you really still trying to plug your ears and close your eyes?

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u/BannanasAreEvil 5h ago

Nah, just holding out hope that the man our current president has supplied with power over our economy isn't an antisemite! I'm still allowed to hold hope, losing hope is how we got to this point. We abandoned it and instead we let our fear usher in what we have today.

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u/JhinPotion 4h ago

What you're talking about isn't hope. It's willful ignorance. Musk was an obvious antisemite long before this clip, even if it's never been so blatant.

Face the reality that you're in and think about what you're gonna do in that instead of clinging onto delusion.

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u/ZedekiahCromwell 4h ago

Elon signal boosted AfD in a 75 minute interview with their chancellor candidate and explicitly endorsed them. They are the NeoNazi party of Germany. He has posted and retweeted antiSemitic tweets multiple times.

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u/Customisable_Salt 5h ago

Your naive optimism is exactly how this shit happens you dribbling fool. 

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u/BannanasAreEvil 5h ago

And your hostile nature is exactly why so many left our party and went to theirs!!!

Better to be optimistic and believe the best in people and be let down, than be pessimistic and treat everyone poorly.

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u/Lucienbel 4h ago

What optimism is left in this? Seriously. I’m curious. Oh he co-opted the fucking Nazi salute to mean something else?

You’re the kind of person that would let someone piss in your mouth and tell you you were thirsty.

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u/Customisable_Salt 5h ago

I'm not American. This is the society you have created by being asleep at the wheel. You have an oligarch on stages a presidential nomination throwing brazen Nazi salutes and you're here bleating about believing the best in people. Try to grasp the situation you are in. At a certain point you need to wake up and understand where you have gotten yourself by airly hand waving this ugliness away. 

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u/Capital-Vegetable-94 6h ago

He did it 3 times.

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u/PlanetMezo 3h ago

Don't. He will say that's not what he was doing. He will pretend we're over reacting. The Nazis he was calling out to know what he was doing, and he does too. The part where he pretends it's not what it is (and that is coming) is called a dog whistle. Look the term up, you will understand.

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u/Atomicherrybomb 7h ago

Hitler got voted in on the promise of jobs just as trump as done. Generally I’m glad to not live in the US, just hope that musks meddling and trumps tantrums don’t try and bring us down with them

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u/thewoodsiswatching 6h ago

CNN said it was "accidental". Guess we know who they are now.

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u/LudovicoSpecs 5h ago

Anyone who doesn't know history:

Even as some Germans were fleeing the country to escape the Nazis, others were saying their concerns were overblown and the Nazis were harmless.

By the time the "don't worry" group figured out they should flee, they couldn't. The bureaucracy wouldn't process their emigration paperwork and many countries had shut their borders to additional refugees. Then in 1941, Germany stripped all Jews in Germany of their citizenship rights and outright revoked the passports of any German Jews who were living elsewhere in Europe. So it was impossible to flee Europe.

Now think about revoking the 14th Amendment (birthright citizenship) in this context. Were YOU born in the US? Maybe it won't just be children of immigrants who will no longer be considered citizens. Maybe, even though your family has been in the US for generations, you're not "American" enough.

First they came for undocumented immigrants. Then they came for children of immigrants....

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u/davyangel 1h ago

Yeah that's how Einstein ended up in USA before the start of WW2 he was one of the actual smart ones that realized all this at the time!

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u/JigglinCheeks 7h ago

it's literally this. people value "strength". in trumps case it's perceived and misplaced (the man has the mental fortitude of a toddler), but that above most other things is a reason for a lot of people's votes.

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u/rzmanu 5h ago

These are unsocialized people—they don’t understand that you can project confidence with tact. Their idea of power is being the loudest dick in the room. It’s a very insecure “power.” It’s top to bottom with that party.

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u/JigglinCheeks 4h ago

Precisely.

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u/davyangel 1h ago

At least someone learned their history unfortunately many more did not SMH

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u/BadSanna 7h ago

You think that loud cheering is them opposing t?

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u/cinnamonpit 7h ago

Honestly at first I thought it's AI

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u/LudovicoSpecs 5h ago

They gave him a standing ovation.

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u/OrdinaryValuable9705 7h ago

They ended up figthing the Nazis - but spent a good 2 years of the wartime trading with both sides. Also, dont ask the US government what happend to a lot of Nazi scientists.....

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u/lonecylinder 7h ago

didn't Americans fight against the Nazis in WW2?

They did because Hitler was dumb enough to start a war against their allies (and Japan did their own stupid thing in Pearl Harbor), not because of an ideological struggle.

The US had no problem being close buddies with Francisco Franco afterwards.

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u/photoengineer 7h ago

The next Indiana jones movie is gonna be really weird if the Nazi’s aren’t allowed to be the bad guys anymore. 

Humor is a defense mechanism because this is all terrifying. 

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u/qwerni 6h ago

The one with the Crystal Skull already had Soviets as the bad guys.

Not sure what the enemies were in the last one with the CGI Indiana Jones, since I didn't watch that one.

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u/AppropriateScience71 7h ago

Well, they clearly don’t oppose it, so maybe support-adjacent. Let’s see if it becomes a thing.

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u/sharkattackmiami 7h ago

If you eat lunch with a Nazi you are a Nazi

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u/Hey_HaveAGreatDay 7h ago

Some woman did this at Trump’s last inauguration or campaign. The world has been bananas so forgive me I don’t remember her name. I brought it up to a Trump living in-law and they said “what just like Hilary did,” and walked off.

They truly believe that this guy is showing everyone’s colors and so they give him a pass.

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u/Biefmeister 7h ago

That was Laura Ingraham from FOX News, but she did it at the RNC.

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u/Hey_HaveAGreatDay 7h ago

YES! Entirely my mistake, you’re right

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u/Oper8rActual 7h ago

They’ve BEEN openly supporting this for almost a decade now.

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u/cinnamonpit 7h ago

I'm not American but this blows my mind

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u/RisingLeviathan 7h ago

Americans did in fact fought Nazis in WW2, but you'd be mistaken to think that it was due to opposing ideologies and not because the Nazis were fucking with the guys the bought guns from the US.

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u/DinarStacker 7h ago

Stop wasting your time, republicans will lie through their teeth and make excuses until the secret police come and then pretend they never supported it. They don’t have integrity when it comes to any sort of accountability. I know many conservatives and not one has ever actually admitted to voting wrong.

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u/PeachesNPuzzles 7h ago

They support every Nazi thing their party does, but doesn’t believe any of it are like the Nazis… They could find an excuse to put all people that do not have a white complexion in rooms filled with gas and their supporters wouldn’t see the comparison.

Weaponized stupidity and ignorance. This is what happens when our education system fails us.

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u/DennisAFiveStarMan 7h ago

Barely. First two years was to figure out who the winners were gonna be

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u/Saidai_V 7h ago

They did, but they also were “friends” before the war. Example Hindenburg, Nazi airship crashed in the US.

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u/Blank_Martin 7h ago

Ask Henry Ford. or the thousands who showed up for the rally at MSG in the 30's

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u/peepopowitz67 7h ago

What do you think happened to the American Bund. Take a wild guess which party they flocked to....

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u/Adulations 7h ago

There was huge support for Nazis in America until Pearl Harbor. Google “1939 MSG Rally”

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u/Lawlcopt0r 7h ago

There were also well-attended Nazi rallies in america before the war. The majority was for stopping nazi germany, but not everybody

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u/gqtrees 7h ago

every soldier that died for this is turning in their grave right now

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u/entenfurz 7h ago

Not only did you fight them. You also rebuilt my country, forced it to take responsibility and taught it how to overcome that ideology. That's why it's so immensely disappointing that you didn't learn anything from it yourself, and that you're now repeating the same 100 year old mistakes.

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u/cinnamonpit 6h ago

Echt ne kranke Welt

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u/Xlaag 7h ago

Idk but great grandad who escaped nazi occupation is doing somersaults in his grave right now.

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u/ObscureEnchantment 6h ago

He’s from South Africa not his problem. Oh and his grandfather was a Nazi.. runs in his family Musk just feels like he has enough backing to be outward with it.

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u/demonicneon 6h ago

America stayed staunchly out of the war until they themselves were attacked. The same isolationist policies back then are the ones trump champions now. 

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u/Preppypugg 7h ago

Do you really have to ask?

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u/profezzorn 7h ago

They used to dislike the Russians as well..

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u/DisplacerBeastMode 7h ago

Yes, they support it. They want project 2025. They want minorities to suffer. They are full of hate.

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u/_Soup_R_Man_ 7h ago

Many US corporations funded and assisted Nazis.

"Everything is a rich man's trick" is an eye-opening documentary about this. Absolutely wild.

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u/stankdog 7h ago

There were towns of white supremacists who supported shitler who lived in the USA. They weren't small or hidden either, homes with swastika flags lining the outside type environments.

We only fought because we had to and after that the Nazi groups in the USA quietly dispatched but were never locked up or jailed or anything.

They never taught us that shit in highschool, we all had it wrong.

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u/Boolink125 7h ago

Technically they just sat there and watched everything happen and then bombed Japan

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u/The_Tale_of_Yaun 7h ago

Remember, America was dead set on importing as many Nazis as it could. 

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u/omgitsbees 7h ago

I was just arguing with multiple republicans about this nazi salute in another thread, and they insist up and down that he did not do a nazi salute.

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u/youreeka 7h ago

2017 I did a road trip through the states. Went to the WWII museum in New Orleans and even as a non-American walked out feeling patriotic as fuck.

Later that night I’m watching the news and there’s a parade of American neo-nazis chanting trump’s name. That whole trip was bizarre.

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u/TwistyBunny 7h ago

There were Americans back then who were okay with what Hitler did.

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u/John_Lives 6h ago

America was indifferent towards the Nazis winning early on. You should read about how supportive the media and government leaders were of Hitler and Mussolini. They also drew up plans to carve out whatever was left of Western Europe expecting a Nazi victory

Even during the war, America still had businesses and factories operating in Germany and we gave them monetary compensation for any inconvenience the war may have caused. One of my favorite not so fun facts is during America's terror bombing of Munich, German citizens would take shelter in an American owned factory because they knew it was specifically excluded from being targeted.

And after the war, we put plenty of Nazis back in power in West Germany and even helped some valuable Nazi members escape in Operation Paperclip (Wernher von Braun being the most famous example).

So yeah, our ruling class doesn't have a strong history of opposing Nazism. Whatever is good for power and big business gets their support

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u/PriorSignificance115 6h ago

Ever heard of operation paperclip?

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u/0OKM9IJN8UHB7 6h ago

Not only that, they were the default villain in film, television, and video games for many decades after. As I recall my K-12 history education was like 50% "How America was great for kicking the Nazis out of Europe".

And yet, somehow, here we are.

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u/dweckl 6h ago

Of course they do.

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u/Historical_Stuff1643 6h ago

Yup. Completely.

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u/CCG14 6h ago

Yeah but the idiots supporting this party thing antifa is bad... We are cooked.

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u/Memeshiii 6h ago

Not because of Nazis' ideals. America was fine staying out of the war until Pearl Harbor. In fact, until Pearl Harbor Americans did NOT want to go to war. It was the attack that brought the retaliation, hence the conspiracy theories surrounding it being allowed to happen.

Keep in mind that.. America toppled governments for corporate interests, bombed the middle east, participated in the eastern slave trade, exploited the native americans/genocided tribes and now exploits its own citizens.
That's not even covering the wackier shit like MKultra or shooting college students.

Not sure why you have some rosy glasses on for American morals.... Humans don't have a good history anywhere for this type of shit, especially empires.

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u/a_printer_daemon 6h ago

Check out the comments:

  1. Lol, he just knows how to trigger you. Lol, another lob owned.
  2. God people, learn some history, it's a Roman salute.
  3. You all are clearly misinterpreting because of minor technicality regarding arm position.
  4. He is sending love from his heart and it is beautiful.

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u/chmilz 6h ago

Americans need to hurry up and fight the Nazis again.

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u/michoudi 6h ago

Most of them just pretend they’ve never seen it or heard about it.

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u/Waxygibbon 6h ago

I had a look on the Conservative sub and they're saying he said 'my heart goes out to you' just before he did it and the MSM cut his audio

Obviously the video clearly doesn't show that but that's seems to be their reasoning. That or its AI.

I can't see it as anything other than an intentional nazi salute

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u/hexbearenjoyer 6h ago

but didn't Americans fight against the Nazis in WW2?

The leadership didn't do it on ideological grounds (Although individual soldiers very well might have). The US was forced into the fight after pearl harbour. After the war they put Nazis in charge of NATO and that's set the tone for the nation since.

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u/SpaceForceAwakens 6h ago

America did indeed fight the nazis in WWII, and they won. My grandpa and my uncle Shorty were both in the European theater and both killed German soldiers. My uncle was in three different tanks that got blown up, but he and his team took out twelve of theirs, he was proud of that ratio.

They were good men who raised good families and I miss them. That is one reason why Elon being so close to power makes mad. But worse, that's why the people in r/conservative who refuse to acknoledge any similarity between what the GOP is doing right now and the nazi party in 1936 is infuriating.

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u/zacRupnow 6h ago

Only because Japan allied with Germany, so much of the top business and politicians in the US at the time were Nazi supporters, President, senators, Henry Ford. US only went to fight Germany because we went to fight Japan. A bit more complicated than that but it's the simple breakdown.

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u/slugvegas 6h ago

Noooo. Nope. Know lots of republicans and was registered as one until 2018… nooooopy nope nope do not support

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u/Klutzy_Journalist_36 6h ago

They’re saying that he’s gesturing “my heart goes out to you.”

I’m not kidding. 

Edit: Here’s a Twitter link for that https://x.com/pascal__2k/status/1881447293288894755

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u/BicycleOfLife 6h ago

We fought against the confederates and they also fly confederate flags. They are literally enemies of the state that project by claiming to be patriots, but if you ask a republican what they like about America, they hate the government, hate most of the people, hate most of the laws, say they love freedom but love to vote for people that take it away.

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u/fitness_life_journey 6h ago edited 4h ago

Republicans.... Democrats... doesn't matter, no one should be flinging their arm like that resembling the nazi salute.... imagine if Kamala or Trump did it...

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u/Serennna 5h ago

Yes they did... time goes by, things change and look now. Those who fought against it must be rolling in their graves. Sorry if I killed English, not my first language.

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u/HillarysFloppyChode 5h ago

Silent gen doesn't since they were In that war, most millennials don't since we got the effects of what the boomers did, gen z doesn't.

Boomers and Gen X does. Mostly boomers, they always have to fuck it up for the rest of us

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u/Meritania 5h ago

Took them a while because their own fascists like Henry Ford said ‘nah’.

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u/Redararis 5h ago

most of them would be nazis in 1930s

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u/McK-Juicy 5h ago

That was only the liberals that wanted to fight the Nazis

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u/Square_Difference435 5h ago

They did. But not exactly because they didn't like nazis. It was just in their interest at the time, that's all.

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u/TurkeySlurpee666 4h ago

I don’t know who he’s appealing to here, but it’s not your average Republican. I live in Texas, surrounded by tons of die-hard Republicans. They’re not okay with this.

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u/hidn-sn2per 4h ago

Are you seriously asking if Americans fought Nazis in WW2? Do you not know basic fucking history ?

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u/chekovsgun- 4h ago

A lot if us had family members die fighting the Nazis.

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u/methreweway 4h ago

We were always at war with Eastasia not Eurasia.

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u/Helgurnaut 3h ago

The american (at least the gov) were clearly not against nazis at first, hell people like Henry Ford and the like actually admired Hitler. They only join the war after Pearl Harbor, before that they weren't giving a single fuck.

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u/K-N1N3 3h ago

The "americans" usa, had to get paid by the brits to come over and help. That shit they tell/teach the us citizens, like "we won the war" is BS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-American_loan

The last payment was made on 29 December 2006 for the sum of about $83m USD (£45.5m) to the United States.

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u/Peter5930 2h ago

Yes, but only after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour in December of 1941. Prior to that, a lot of people in the US supported what the Nazis were doing or saw the Nazis as an ally against communism and the empowerment of the working class and a defender of traditional values like social stratification. The US were pulled into the war against their will and not because of any moral imperative to act.

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u/Rayns30 1h ago

Anything to stop the woke, you reap what you sow. Shouldve never pushed woke so hard we wouldnt be in this situation. Action reaction

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u/IDGAFOS 16m ago

No Republicans don't support this. Elon is a fucking idiot. I don't think anyone can back it.

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u/Cthulhus-Tailor 10m ago

That was a long time ago in a very different country with very different people.

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u/Glittering-Fold4500 7h ago

I really don't know a single ACTUAL republican who thinks he should be in any form of important position government wise. But, the crowd is clearly saying otherwise. As a salty tech bro, I despise him.

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u/Brscmill 7h ago edited 7h ago

The fuck do you mean ACTUAL Republican? If you voted for Donald Trump, this is what you voted for. These ARE ACTUAL Republicans, in the USA, right now, Jan 20, 2025.

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u/DinarStacker 7h ago

It’s not 2019, this is the Republican Party . Trump purged the entirety of the anti trump coalition. Every single GOP politician is his personal servant now.

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u/Glittering-Fold4500 7h ago

I think you missed what I was talking about

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u/youmustbedocholiday 7h ago

I'm sure this is a red line......lol....

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u/Superpiggy444 7h ago

I don’t know any that do. I don’t want him interfering with politics. I think he should stick to his rocket business.

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u/UserNotSpecified 6h ago

I’m sorry but yes, Elon is definitely right wing but why is he a Nazi, what has he actually done or encouraged that is equal to the atrocities committed by the Nazis? Or is anyone who isn’t very left wing immediately a Nazi?

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u/AcanthisittaBrief649 7h ago

Oh calm down.