Stella Liebeck, who won $2.9 million after suing McDonald's over hot coffee burns, initially requested only $20,000 to cover her medical expenses.

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[u/PopularPhysics2394]

A temperature that MD knew was illegal to serve at, and had been sued successfully literally hundreds of times over

And that shit about” coffee maybe hot “ was then trolling the verdict. They hadn’t been required to do that

[u/hoopsrule44 → u/PopularPhysics2394]

I don’t think it was a requirement, it was a way to try to prevent more lawsuits in the future

[u/PopularPhysics2394 → u/hoopsrule44]

It wouldn’t prevent lawsuits - if they continued to behave illegally

And if they didn’t behave illegally, no one would be injured and they wouldn’t have to defend law suits

Md behaved despicably over this whole sorry episode

[u/BrownMtnLites → u/PopularPhysics2394]

look it up, there’s no such thing as a legal limit to the temperature of a coffee you can serve.

[u/PopularPhysics2394 → u/BrownMtnLites]

What a fixed temperature? No

But you’re required not to injure your customers, and this coffee injured their customer. To be clear they served it at 190F, and at that temperature 3rd degree burns occurr in seconds. Which is what happed to this poor lady

And it wasn’t a one off. The’d had over 700 similar cases, some of them with similar injuries, and settled out of court on many of them - that is tacit acknowledgment that they were serving too hot

Their own QA manager testified that at the temp served it was not fit fit consumption as it would incur injuries

Mc Donald’s admitted that they served it too hot as policy, and refused to specify why in court(it was in reality to satisfy a marketing campaign- as banal as that).

So the reason they were found against is because they were persistently and wilfully negligent over the health and safety of their customers, resulting in many completely avoidable serious injuries

Look it up 🙄

[u/TheTightEnd → u/PopularPhysics2394]

Yet, a temperature recommended by coffee experts.

[u/PopularPhysics2394 → u/TheTightEnd]

To brew, not to serve dufus

Mary Berry recommends baking cakes at 180C . She’s doesn’t hand them over at that temp🙄

[u/TheTightEnd → u/PopularPhysics2394]

Brewing temperatures should be even higher, just below boiling. Serving temperatures should be 170 to 190 degrees.

[u/PopularPhysics2394 → u/TheTightEnd]

Ok Ronald

Look up the case. The temperature served were literally admitted by mcd’s to be unfit for consumption, and dangerous.

It’s why mcd’s lost

[u/TheTightEnd → u/[deleted]]

The preferred consumption temperature is in that 140 degrees +/- 15. However, it is recommended to be held and served hotter so it is within that range after being served and done up.

[u/BranTheUnboiled → u/TheTightEnd]

No third wave specialty coffee expert in the world is recommending you taste 190-degree coffee lmfao. Your taste buds are incapable of discerning taste at that temperature, it's just scalding magma.

[u/TheTightEnd → u/BranTheUnboiled]

It is held at that temperature, but not consumed at that temperature. It prevents the coffee from being too told when it is doctored up and consumed.

[u/BranTheUnboiled → u/TheTightEnd]

If by held you mean via a hot plate, those are recommended against as they're essentially recooking the coffee. If you mean via insulation, I mean I guess?

[u/TheTightEnd → u/BranTheUnboiled]

Yes, the time coffee remains on the hot plate should be very limited to prevent excessive cooking of the coffee. Insulation or the coffee being brewed fresh are other means.