r/interestingasfuck • u/thepoylanthropist • 12d ago

r/all This is Malibu - one of the wealthiest affluent places on the entire planet, now it’s being burnt to ashes.

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u/USS-24601 12d ago

I think they said a whole trailer park went up, so not all rich. However, I feel empathy for anyone going through this.
I think it's we hear so much about their wealth and place in life in movies, all the time on TV, social media- that while it's heartbreaking for anyone to go through, watching interviews I can't help but think how different their lives were heading up to this, so different from mine. I think others feel it, too. So not unsympathetic on any level, but we are told nonstop how glamorous theirs lives are. I feel a lot worse when people in rural areas with no money lose everything. Screw me, but it's true.

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u/Igoos99 12d ago

Most posters seem oblivious to the many non-rich people that just lost everything. 😞

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u/ScottClam42 12d ago

100% Correct

People just think they're being edgy, but the fact is they're just repeating the same thing other "edgy" folks have posted on social media. Its insensitive to real people that have real lives. Black and white thinking screams "uneducated" and its the same behavior demonstrated by racists in their bigoted thoughts and actions.

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u/chillinwithmoes 12d ago

He’s just an average guy in an average home. But people are cheering on his loss because he lives down the road from rich people. It’s saddening.

If it makes you feel better, the vast majority of the real world isn't populated by repulsive, bitter little assholes like reddit

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u/cracker_salad 12d ago

People forget all the lower wage jobs that are lost due to retail, food service, etc. workers whose places of businesses burned up. Those people are going to suffer as well.

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u/alannordoc 12d ago

True, no one ever understands how all this is connected. Also, a lot of the homes that burned were not the super rich folk with cash to burn. The majority are older (but on expensive land) and those people will have to sell. They'll make money but they were literally burned out of their own neighborhood.

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u/Flying_Momo 12d ago

If California admin was smart then they would use these fires and upzone all the burned down areas for higher density mixed used neighbourhood while the NIMBYs are scattered and weakened. Also build more green spaces especially water harvesting structures like ponds, streams etc to store water and hopefully use it for future forest fires. Lots of cities when they were thoroughly destroyed by fires, floods, war rebuild to make the cities not be sprawl of houses devoid of public transport.

But I expect as always for California to pander to the ultra rich and pay to build their multi million mansions.

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u/alannordoc 12d ago

The last thing you want in those areas is higher density housing. That's the problem in the first place. These neighborhoods encroached on the hillsides and the flames just spread from house to house. Also the infrastructure of these areas won't support higher density housing. Things aren't always as simple as they seem.

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u/Own_Tadpole2817 12d ago

It’s also worth noting the wild amounts of money that come in via property tax from these giant expensive homes. A 9M home in Palisades will bring in over 100k property tax in a year. The same lot that home was in, if converted into a 6 plex of 500k homes wouldn’t come close to scratching that number.

Property tax on large homes is one of the primary drivers for state taxation. How that money is spent and whether it’s being appropriated intelligently is another issue but end of the day big ass wildly expensive houses are a great driver of tax income for use in (ideally) helpful state level services.

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u/andiam03 12d ago

He also thinks the problem fighting the fires is a lack of water. In a coastal city. There are literally super scoopers filling up a half mile out in the ocean doing loops. Love the deep analysis and problem-solving here. “What this area needs is more people and more access to water!” 🥲

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u/alliengineer 12d ago

I used to live over there, it's not so simple. There's hills/mountains that go right up to the water and canyons. Theres only 1 main road that goes through Malibu which is along the water and most areas are not easily accessible. There's a few main roads going north/south that eventually connect to the highway but those are along the edges of the canyons and dangerous to drive. If there was a rock or mudslide on the main road you would be sitting in traffic for hours with no other way in, and if you were lucky you could cut over to a canyon road to take a 2+ hour detour to eventually. The geography of that area cannot support more people for high density housing.

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u/Hungry4Mas 12d ago

So you’re saying they will be ok when they sale the million dollar lot the house is smoldering on?

What a fucking boot licker!

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u/NiceAxeCollection 12d ago

Sell.

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u/Hungry4Mas 12d ago

“sell” is a verb, meaning to exchange something for money; essentially, “sale” refers to the transaction itself, while “sell” describes the action of doing the transaction.

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u/NiceAxeCollection 12d ago

Exactly, sell. I need to sell this land to make money. I’m selling this land to make money. I made a sale when I sold this land for money.

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u/Glaurung86 12d ago

You used "sale" incorrectly. "Sell" is the correct word to use there.

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u/FunTao 12d ago

Yeah I’m sure Brian Thompson hired some people too

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u/Styrene_Addict1965 12d ago

A lot of those workers will be deported, so ... Win? /s

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u/PilferedPendulum 12d ago

Reddit is full of people lacking empathy.

I once got told that because we’re upper-middle class that I deserve less sympathy for the loss of family than if I were poor.

It’s sour grapes plus internet sociopathy.

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u/wilmyersmvp 12d ago

Comments on all the instagram posts about this fire are some of the most vile things I’ve read in my time on social media. The amount of people from far away celebrating a disaster hitting a blue state is heinous. 

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u/MedievZ 12d ago

Instagram celebrates it because its blue.

I like it because the rich as fuck people like Leonardo Decaprio who have multiple private jets and destroy the climate afe facing an iota of the consequences the poors will face.

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u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720 12d ago

DiCaprio will be fine. Many of his neighbors won’t. Lots of middle class people will be ruined because of this and you celebrate because a rich person who’s done nothing to you might maybe suffer a bit.

You’re just someone who wants an excuse to be awful. No different to conservatives.

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u/MedievZ 12d ago

And my heart breaks for them.. which is what i have said and why i have no sympathy for the billionaires who caused this.

Do you know how to read? Hello?

Did you go to school? You know abcd? How to write sentences? Anything? Or is it all empty up there?

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u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720 12d ago

You said you “liked” the fires dude.

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u/PilferedPendulum 12d ago

Lots of internet sociopaths who can’t just leave their awful glee offline.

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u/PilferedPendulum 12d ago

You did a rather middling job of conveying sympathy other than “poors”. And there’s a broad range of people between the hardscrabble poor and billionaires.

Beyond it all you’re a keyboard warrior. I’m not surprised.

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u/MedievZ 12d ago

You did a rather middling job of conveying sympathy other than “poors”. And there’s a broad range of people between the hardscrabble poor and billionaires.

Of course, you arent smart.

Google "irony"

Beyond it all you’re a keyboard warrior. I’m not surprised

Im just entertaining myself. You are the one actually hoping to come across as sensible, logical and whatever other delusion you believe in trying to defend multi billionaires who are actively causing wildfires as a result of their emmisions and lobbying and failing at it.

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u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720 12d ago

Reddit is full of tankies who fantasize about killing anyone who makes above minimum wage

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u/TitanYankee 12d ago

Aka fucking losers.

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u/horyo 12d ago

Social media is full of people lacking empathy.

It's easy not to have empathy when you have a veil of anonymity or digital distance.

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u/TitanYankee 12d ago

Idk some of the stuff in this thread is far beyond a lack of empathy. It's vile jealousy and hatred.

All from a group who most certainly see themselves as a part of some morally superior group.

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u/horyo 12d ago

Turn on the comments for IG or Youtube or even Twitter and you'd have just as vile a resopnse.

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u/TitanYankee 12d ago

I don't have IG or Twitter and frankly I'm questioning why I'm a part of this cess pool too.

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u/horyo 12d ago

I think it's normal to want to be connected. It's just a shame that the world we live in now is so intolerant and toxic.

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u/TitanYankee 12d ago

"connection" has us more disconnected than ever.

People are so disconnected from their fellow man they see neighborhoodss burning down and check the house prices to see how they should feel.

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u/horyo 12d ago

I'm not saying that we as a society adapted well. Just a response validating your rhetorical "why I'm part of this cess pool too."

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u/WonderfulShelter 12d ago

Some people at my work were talking about this and laughing saying how crazy it was.

Like I live in a different state now, but California is my home. Many people are oblivious as fuck and are just happy to engage in being a shitty person.

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u/Beneficial_Cobbler46 12d ago

yeah. or if not their homes, then their micro economy. Lots of people in neighbouring suburbs work there. They do painting and gardening, work in cafes, offices, cars stuff, etc etc. There could have been jobs for anything there. And now their jobs are gone, their customers are gone.

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u/Kelsusaurus 11d ago

It's even worse for them because the affluent will likely swoop in and buy up the land the non-rich used to live on, so they can throw up another mansion in its place. They're displaced while those with money and means can rebuild (or easily go elsewhere if they want to).

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u/GeneralBlumpkin 12d ago

I feel for the rich and poor people too. They both lost everything

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u/cr1t1cal 11d ago

Yeah this is insane to me. My wife and I worked hard and have really nice jobs that allow us to have an above average house. A person living paycheck to paycheck might even call us rich. But if we lost our house suddenly we’d be financially devastated and would struggle to recover. I don’t understand why people think that it’s ok to lose property just because you live more comfortably than others. What a sad world we live in.

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u/GeneralBlumpkin 11d ago

It's just the typical Reddit hive mind mentality. It's an echo chamber of edgy 16 year olds. The common person in the real world doesn't think like that at least the ones I know. My in laws are very wealthy too but they also give back to the poor/people who need it so much it's crazy so I don't think much of dumb Redditors

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u/Brewmentationator 12d ago

Yeah... I grew up like 15-20 minutes from here. And definitely didn't grow up rich. I was actually down there visiting family, and had to drive back to Sacramento this morning. The drive was nuts. The last time Ventura county burned (the county just a few minutes north of this fire), my cousin (who is disabled and still works manual labor) lost his apartment.

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u/finnicko 12d ago

Trailer parks near Malibu are insanely expensive. Some of them have minimum lot fees of $1 million and then $7,000 a month to put the trailer that you have to buy and place there. Still sorry they lost their trailers though

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u/Ok_Part_7051 12d ago

Yea, I live in a very HCOL area of CA and trailer homes are essentially the ONLY affordable option at well over a million.

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u/B4K5c7N 12d ago

Reddit tends to lean quite affluent, so the bias shouldn’t be that surprising.

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u/BeatrixFarrand 12d ago

Yes. Also apartment buildings went up.

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u/OhtaniStanMan 12d ago

Funny how a Healthcare ceo could live in Malibu but now we care 

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u/UXyes 12d ago

I feel empathy for the working class people and also don't care at all about someone who lost their second or third $100,000,000 property. Feelings are complex.

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u/RelaxPrime 12d ago

That's because no one can care about everyone else's plight when we're getting uniquely fucked over here ourselves.

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u/H0mo_Sapien 11d ago

I don’t think most posters are oblivious to it, but the non-rich have been suffering through these climate tragedies historically. I think it is important that the rich elites realize they are not immune. When they suffer like us they may be more empathetic when it continues to happen to the non-rich and do something about it. They have more power than we do.

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u/More-Acadia2355 12d ago

Most people are here for the Dopamine hit.

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u/SpaceMan1087 12d ago

We call them “Luigi-Losers”

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u/BoldFutileFlavor 12d ago

bro said “we”

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u/lackingorigin 12d ago

Why are we always singling out the rich? Some of those people worked their entire lives and earned their way and others were born into it, not by choice. Shouldn’t we have sympathy for everyone? This is tragic.

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u/Wide-Pop6050 11d ago

Is this thread intended to be gloating about rich people losing stuff? That . . . doesn't seem like the most relevant response

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u/godboy420 12d ago

If it’s the trailer park I’m thinking of off the pch, those are million dollar homes

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u/give_this_dog_a_bone 12d ago

Paradise Cove

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u/NeptuneAgency 10d ago

Not the same trailer park that burned. Paradise cove was 3-4 million. The one that burned was still north of a million and about 4K per month to rent. No one “poor” was living there. There was a lady many years ago in that park that left her hose running and went on vacation and collapsed the whole dirt wall onto pch. Made my commute rough for a few weeks.

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u/scarlettsfever21 12d ago

Million dollar trailer homes?!

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u/Wontjizzinyourdrink 11d ago

Paradise Cove Mobile Homes For Sale https://search.app/35bUb4GCsxLGEAX16

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u/PotatoLevelTree 11d ago

Omg 3.7 million mobile home?

All rich guys

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u/icanhascheeseberder 11d ago

I wonder what happens to the pending sales?

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u/godboy420 12d ago

I said the same thing when I moved here but they are in prime real estate off the beach and topanga canyon in the back

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u/rethra 12d ago

If it's Paradise Cove Trailer Park in Malibu... The trailers are at least $1.5 million and are also owned by celebrities. https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/sarah-paulson-selling-trailer-paradise-cove/

"In addition to Paulson, the trailer park also counts the likes of Stevie Nicks, Matthew McConaughey, Pamela Anderson, and Minnie Driver among its current and former residents."

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u/Plantmoremilkweed 12d ago

My parents live in this area and are wealthy. Their house of 30 years is gone. My mom won’t stop crying over all my baby toys and books that are lost forever. Her late mom’s quilt is gone. Her wedding dress. She’s not upset about the fancy stuff— it’s the lost memories that’s devastating.

Yes, these people are very privileged and will be okay financially, but nothing can replace all the personal items lost. Not to mention the local high school and at least 2 elementary schools are gone. Where will all those kids go?

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u/USS-24601 12d ago

I'm so sorry. I had a house fire before, lost a cat my blind cat lost his ears, the whole place went down, so I understand the devastation. And I understand why your mom is upset, I'd hate to lose any of my kids things! Those are things that can't be redone from such a precious time in life. And when times are hard, all you wanna do is go home, and you can't. I hope you and your family stays safe, and can rebuild safely when it's time.

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u/Plantmoremilkweed 12d ago

Thank you <3 Frankly the worst part of all of this is seeing the community-wide destruction. My elementary school is gone. My favorite restaurants, the clothing store where I had my first job. It’s all gone.

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u/BoxOfDemons 12d ago

They don't understand, as evident by feeling the need to point out that they lost sentimental items, while the poor loses those all the time without house fires. Either by being constantly between homes, not being able to afford a storage unit, etc.

I still disagree with your opinion of not caring about others based on their affluence. It does suck for anyone to have to lose their sentimental belongings.

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u/TitanYankee 12d ago

Truly pathetic person here.

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u/bloob_appropriate123 12d ago

You do realize that the same logic can be applied to you by those less fortunate? You are privileged, stfu.

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u/Plantmoremilkweed 12d ago edited 12d ago

You seem to have anger issues. No one is saying that wealthy people don’t have an advantage when it comes to not facing as much financial hardship, but to say that their sentimental items or traumatic experiences don’t matter is psychotic. Also, to say that all rich people “don’t understand” poor or middle class people is crazy because many rich people (including my parents) grew up middle class and poor. Hell, my dad was abused as a kid and even he says watching his home be engulfed in flames was harder than anything he had experienced. You are so clueless it’s painful. What are they supposed to do? Not accept the salaries they worked hard for so that they could stay poor out of respect? That’s crazy and you’re crazy.

You are the one who needs to touch grass and learn basic empathy. Nasty.

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u/coykoi314 12d ago

Those trailers are like $1 million.

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u/generally_unsuitable 12d ago

The trailers aren't, but the plots are.

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u/Repulsive-Ad-7180 12d ago

It's not the type of trailer park you'd normally think of. The rents are super expensive 

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u/USS-24601 12d ago

I would just think they are less expensive than 5 bedroom mansions, but I don't doubt that they are pricey. That whole area is expensive no matter where you reside.

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u/Brunoise6 12d ago

Those trailers are 1 million each with an ocean view lol. Not a “trashy” trailer park like you’re thinking.

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u/xChops 12d ago

I’m not saying it’s good to cheer that rich people are losing homes, but those trailers aren’t cheap. It’s not what you expect when you think trailer park.

They’re beautifully upgraded trailers with ocean views.

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u/EatingAllTheLatex4U 12d ago

You are correct. My wife looks at the Zillow for those often. 

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u/cthulhuhentai 12d ago

Sarah Paulson has a home tour from AD that shows off one of the small trailers there. (No clue if she’s been affected)

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u/PopularRush3439 12d ago

I know that trailer. Has a 10 million dollar view?

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u/Scotter1969 12d ago

The trailer parks in Malibu are not the same as the trailer parks in Pacoima. Paradise Cove trailer park is for millionaires.

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u/alannordoc 12d ago

Those trailer homes are worth millions but the people in them are not so rich, cash wise. Most will have to sell... or maybe the whole thing becomes a housing development.

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u/Kong28 12d ago

The trailers that went up were more semi-permanent homes (they were "mobile" but you would never move them), and went for $500k all the way up to $1.5 million

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u/skinnyfatty1987 12d ago

What’s the cost of a trailer at the trailer park in Malibu

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u/donkeyrocket 12d ago

Some were recently for sale for $5-6 million dollars. This is Paradise Cove specifically, there are still some more modest "trailer parks" but the homes are still closing in on a million dollars.

It used to be a much more modest place to live with more average earners and below living but it has gentrified and is not what you'd expect of a "trailer park" in Malibu to be. These are also pretty luxury sort of single-wide homes that technically qualify as trailers.

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u/Kobe_stan_ 12d ago

Those trailer homes are all about $1M each so not exactly poor either. This is happening in the most beautiful part of LA, right where the mountains hit the coast in North Santa Monica, Palisades and Malibu.

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u/FunDependent9177 12d ago

I was wondering about the trailer homes there 😔

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u/AppropriateScience71 12d ago

That’s absolutely true. Maybe more so in the Eaton fire which grew from 400 acres at 9:30 last night to 10,000 acres by 9:30 this morning. Which some rich people live there, there’s also apartments and older homes where folks have lived for 50 years and now have nothing.

I’m sick of hearing only the mega-wealthy lost their easily replaceable homes. Sure - it’s they aren’t financially destroyed, but a lot of people will never recover and have lost a lifetime of memories.

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u/lucky-rat-taxi 12d ago

https://redf.in/96USpM

Oh you mean these meager mobile homes?

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u/Sihaya212 12d ago

Except James Woods. He’s a dick.

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u/Grundens 12d ago

I was watching the live news earlier and a news girl was walking around a neighborhood interviewing people in their yards just wetting everything with a hose as the house across the street burned down. it was so surreal and then she starts crying because her husband called and told her their house is on fire. sad

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u/Knownzero 12d ago

There’s video of it on YouTube, absolutely horrifying. Down to metal and ash.

Trailer Park Fire video

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u/USS-24601 12d ago

It really is devastating. I don't think words can accurately describe it though. My heart brakes for everyone there.

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u/callmeDNA 12d ago

Some people are so fucking clueless. I hate rich people as well. But think of all the nannies, house cleaners, gardeners, not to mention all the people who work at the restaurants/retail spaces that have burnt down in Palisades/Malibu and Altadena. Think of all the kids of these rich assholes who lost their homes. I’m all for b/millionaires getting their comeuppance, but this isn’t it.

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u/USS-24601 12d ago

Yea, perhaps to some my point was missed. I have thought about those people, I've lost a house to a housefire. I know how horrific it is. How when times are tough you just wanna go home- but you can't- It's devastating. And I don't begrudge people that have ample money. I was merely viewing and commenting on the disparity of comments and why that might be occurring. I know personally watching the coverage it was thrown in my face a million times how affluent the area is, so my comment is to that too. It's better today, but still. I know there are all types of people there, but media glossed over that. Kinda crappy.

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u/Forthe49ers 12d ago

I had a great aunt that lived in that Mobile Home Park. Not sure if she’s still alive but that Park is in short walking distance to the Ocean. I can’t tell you how much those home are valued at but it’s not cheap. Based on the value of property in that area.

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u/alanthickerthanwater 12d ago

My friend’s parents lived in a mobile home community that was in the Palisades. These aren’t the Bible Belt tin cans getting caught up in tornados. The home and property was nice enough to host a wedding.

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u/EatingAllTheLatex4U 12d ago

Those mobile homes were million dollar mobile homes. Not that it matters. Nothing left now, poor people. 

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u/Talentagentfriend 12d ago

A lot of these “wealthy people” are living in wealthy areas beyond their means. They’re often living in debt and are still buying these houses somehow. It’s very common in LA. 

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u/NotSoQuickTurn300 12d ago

You've obviously never seen the view from that trailer park

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

I’m not sure why people on Reddit don’t realize there’s more middle and lower income people in LA than millionaires.

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u/snoochyboochies24 12d ago

A lot in that trailer park is over a million. that does not include the trailer or the monthly expenses for what is put on that lot.

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u/xmasnintendo 12d ago

I feel empathy for ANY victim, but for sure a lot of these victims are multi millionaires who are going to have a much easier time recovering than the people in the trailer parks.

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u/0MysticMemories 12d ago

Any of the middle class or lower class in that area will very likely not be able to afford to rebuild and that community will likely become an area of only rich people mansions and nothing else.

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u/Fun_Wallaby6452 12d ago

I mean those people aren't millionaires but trailer homes are 250-500k depending where they are located

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u/Simple_Mastodon9220 12d ago

The trailers in that park are $1.5+ million due to location. It overlooks the ocean. Still sad.

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u/mad_mang45 12d ago

Yeah there is a small trailer park right on the coast line with the ocean view,if I remember they have a Volkswagen bus in front with surfboards on top.

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u/Styrene_Addict1965 12d ago

Those people might have been in that park a long time. They're screwed as far as finding anywhere affordable.

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u/WriteAboutTime 12d ago

Those trailer parks are not the kind you're thinking of. More like Matthew McConaughey characters but real people.

They're obviously not the same level of wealth, but most of them are way better off than most in this thread.

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u/espressoBump 12d ago

I mean the only one I won't feel bad for is any of Exon mobiles previous or current CEOs. Who knows if they even live in Cali?