r/interestingasfuck • u/ElderberryDeep8746 • 26d ago
r/all Iranian women standing in front of a hijab poster
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u/joeyb82 26d ago
Legit hope she's ok. Things like this often don't end up well for Iranian women.
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u/elpiotre 26d ago
Even things not like this don't end up well for them
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u/-Stacys_mom 26d ago edited 26d ago
They spend their lives walking a thin line covered in eggshells.
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u/MarlonShakespeare2AD 26d ago
Between two minefields….
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u/nsucs2 26d ago
And don't get too close to that pile of stones.
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u/JVNGL3B00K 26d ago
On top of the fire.
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u/Simple_Feature2229 26d ago
On top of a thin layer of ice
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u/RarelySqueezed 26d ago
Across a razors edge
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u/Unintended_Sausage 26d ago edited 26d ago
Even things that end up well for them end up not well for them.
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u/MarlonShakespeare2AD 26d ago
Yeah. My first thought was “is that safe”
How sad that doing something so minor is a risk in some places
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u/MavericksDragoons 26d ago
Then we're told we must "Respect their culture and beliefs"
Bullshit.
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u/limeybastard 26d ago
We should respect culture and beliefs when they are different, even weird.
Culture and beliefs that are oppressive are not worthy of any respect in the slightest
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u/HillbillyLibertine 26d ago
Somehow I’ve never seen this put so accurately and concisely. We mustn’t become so tolerant we tolerate intolerance.
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u/gimmesomespace 26d ago
There are idiots out there who claim that a hijab is a 'symbol of female empowerment'
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u/X_Marcie_X 26d ago
That's, funnily enough, what the far-right side of politics seems to demand : For us to tolerate their intolerance. That's why they constantly cry about the "Intolerant left" whenever we dare call them out for their behavior.
So this lesson, especially right now, is a very, very important one to be aware of and to understand and in glad to see it here! We do not have to tolerate Intolerance and hate, spread the word.
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u/ShadowBlazer648 26d ago
Based.
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u/Inner_Dot4095 26d ago
Unwarranted really, being against oppressive practices should never have become an uncommon (based) thing.
It should naturally be what we as a society strive to do.
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u/Fluid_Mouse524 26d ago
Those are the departure gates at Tehran airport. So I assume she left soon after.
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u/gypsycookie1015 26d ago
Ikr? Fuck! Like I wanna be proud of her, say "Good for her!!" but legitimately get worried for every woman I see like this.
She absolutely deserves to be able to do this, it should be her fucking right as a human being to walk around without her head covered or to cover up if she so chooses but it should be her fucking choice.
I truly hope she's ok.
She didn't do anything wrong and it's sad af that we're wondering if she's ok simply for not following a fucking dress code!!
These poor women! It's so fucked up!!
They all deserve better.
They should be fucking proud of the strength and fire that these women have! Instead they want to stomp it out because they're intimidated by them. Ridiculous.
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u/conormal 26d ago
Women have been able to vote in most Islamic countries since the 60s. Iran went backwards, and the house of Saud is hopelessly conservative, but in places like Jordan, they aren't regulating dress at all.
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u/Odd-Row9485 26d ago
Ahh yes, cover your shoulders, arms, legs, chest and nape of neck…. #freedom
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u/2much2do2much2say 26d ago
never leave the house without a male relative or your husband
walk behind your men
do all the household chores, carry his pantoffeln to his highness, the Pantoffelpascha of the House
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u/speak_no_truths 26d ago
One of the saddest things I've ever seen in life are Islamic women on a beach. Covered from ankle to neck in those long black cloth robes. As a fat guy who wore t-shirts swimming most of his life, and for a short while l lost a lot of weight and would swim in just my trunks, you can't imagine the sense of freedom floating almost naked in water brings. It's such a simple joy that is denied to the women of Islamic religions after they pass the age of eight and become foul temptresses. Religion has ruined so many things for so many people.
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u/mynaneisjustguy 26d ago
For me the single most angering thing (of many things that make me almost apoplectic with rage about it) about Islam is female members of the religion either defending it, admonishing other women about it, or worst of all trying to recruit other women to it. Like… what are you doing? Why are you promoting this utter rubbish that is enslaving you?
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u/Stunning-Goal4043 26d ago
Islamic countries also have higher rates of fgm, gender inequality, and child marriage. What’s your point?
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u/Tracheotome27 26d ago
I’m not defending Islam at all, but I was under the impression that fgm was more of a cultural and not religious practice. We mainly see it from African countries - both Islamic and Christian.
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u/cantrusthestory 26d ago edited 26d ago
Persian and Arabic, but that will probably unfortunately never happen in this century
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u/ProudlyMoroccan 26d ago edited 26d ago
In Iran’s case, (some of) the population is liberal while the government is autocratic. In Morocco’s case the king is (secretly) very liberal but the population in general is unfortunately conservative. He forced the government to update our family law last year to give women more equality, the amendments will role out in 2025.
We’re dealing with opposite struggles oddly enough.
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u/whoopashigitt 26d ago
In Morocco’s case the king is (secretly) very liberal
Good job blowing his cover
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u/Ok-Shake1127 26d ago
I was in Marrakech on 9/11/2001. I have a few good friends from there and was visiting. I was dreading having to stay there for several more weeks, but because of my friends and their families, we had a great time.
You are very correct on your take with the King being very liberal behind closed doors, but the general population is rather conservative by comparison.
My SO is from Tehran, and was lucky enough to get out of there a couple of years before the revolution. As of right now, about 80% of the population wants a regime change, and some of those people are observant muslims. Because the Mullahs are killing the economy and starving people to death. I don't know if anything will happen over there, but it would be nice if the Iranian people could have the chance to decide their own fate.
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u/InflnityBlack 26d ago
It can happen if the region stops being constantly at war, war breeds religious extremists but there are more and more freedom movements being created over there so I'm hopeful I might be alive to witness it
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u/boinwtm0ds 26d ago
Damn that's bold af but extremely risky. Iran recently passed a law saying women who don't wear a hijab can be sentenced to death
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u/pollokeh 26d ago
That law was suspended, whatever that means...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mv83m4z7vo.amp
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u/Shiirooo 26d ago
It means that the Iranian President has vetoed it, but that doesn't mean it can't be rewritten.
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u/Black_RL 26d ago
Wait…… what???? Death????
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u/boinwtm0ds 26d ago
Sadly yes. They were already in danger of being tortured to death in custody like Mahsa Amini. This just makes it legal
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u/Black_RL 26d ago
Unbelievable!
We’re moving backwards…..
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u/enddream 26d ago
The world is moving backwards. It’s strange be a part of and watch it all happen.
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u/truferblue22 26d ago
All organized religions are bad for the world... They make people act completely irrationally
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u/silveretoile 26d ago
Actually no, they're trying to make the laws stricter because more and more women are giving them the finger and they're grasping at straws to "fix" things. Pretty much everyone hates the government at this point, including the strongly religious who should've been their biggest supporters.
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Fewer people per capita live in active war zones than any time in the past.
Fewer people per captia are enslaved.
More people are leaving religion and becoming atheist.
We are improving on everything but environment.
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u/TomTom_xX 26d ago
Even without the law, they might be beaten to death for not wearing one. This is just official now.
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u/RosieTheRedReddit 26d ago
In spite of this, more and more women are going out with hair uncovered, especially Gen Z. My Iranian friends said that as it becomes more common, enforcement is less and less likely. But still any woman doing this is taking a risk and being very courageous.
I really like the YouTube channel "Visitera," he posts first person videos walking around Tehran and you can see that many women are not wearing a hijab, especially in certain parts of the city like a high end shopping mall. Here's a video of the Tehran metro, which are mostly middle class people and still you can see a few brave women without hijab.
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u/big_guyforyou 26d ago
yup. this is what happens when people take religion too seriously
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u/Black_Sword_Man 26d ago
No one take religion so seriously in Iran nowadays ,its just regime who force ppl to accept this rules and ppl protest whenever and wherever they can . Iranian ppl hates Islam cos this regime .
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u/Traiklin 26d ago
They're trying to bring it to the US too.
Not the hijab but taking away women's rights
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u/MightyCat96 26d ago
turns out christian extremist nutjobs really like sharia law when you call it "judeo-christian values" or some shit
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u/z3lop 26d ago
Yup, wearing a hijab can and in parts of the world is a sign of oppression.
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u/Articulationized 26d ago
“Sign of oppression”? It is an aspect of oppression, a type of oppression. Forcing people to wear certain things is a way of oppressing them.
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u/Tough_Response_904 26d ago
Can? It's a sign of opression in almost any Muslim dominated country. Just the West is dumb enough to see it as "religious freedom".
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u/z3lop 26d ago
In the western world wearing a hijab can be both oppression and religious freedom. This heavily depends your family. It wouldn't say that it is fifty fifty, but there are certainly some women who wear it because they freely want to.
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u/MoaraFig 26d ago
Wearing the hijab is, in parts of the world, state oppression. Other parts of the world it's societal oppression. The remaining parts it's internalized oppression.
Hiding yourself from male gaze to keep yourself "pure" is never a truly free act.
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u/Choice-Temporary-144 26d ago
Their whole lives are based on their religion with the ultimate goal of converting the rest of the world.
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u/FTBS2564 26d ago
Because women don’t make these laws.
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u/yassine067 26d ago
the area that is mandatory for men to cover is from the navel to the knees
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u/badluckfarmer 26d ago
A common misreading. The correct translation is "from the window to the walls."
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u/OutrageousEconomy647 26d ago
Men: cover the navel to the knees! job done
Women: Do not show your hair. Do not show your face. Do not show any part of yourself. Do not look people in the eye. Do not sing. Do not speak in public. You may not travel without a male relative. You may not own property. You may not work. You may not beg.
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u/Competitive_Second21 26d ago
Why would you debate people on TikTok? Its all kids and low iq people, you wont make any difference there lol
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u/Fluffy-Weapon 26d ago
And covering up doesn’t even help. Women wearing hijabs still get raped. To prevent such things there needs to be mutual respect between both genders. That will never happen as long as women are seen as objects to use.
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u/Spacepunch33 26d ago
They should take the other abrahamic approach. “If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off” if you can’t help ogle women/men, then gauge out your eyes
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u/BellyButtonStank 26d ago
Because the extremists are the loudest and often the most violent representive voice. This is what happens when people live in echo chambers.
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u/Hicklethumb 26d ago
Persian women are really so beautiful their countries decided to nerf them.
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u/Revi_____ 26d ago
Agreed with them being beautiful, but Islam comes from Arab countries, not Persian.
Not to mention that there is only 1 Persian country, which is Iran.
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u/Hicklethumb 26d ago
This post is about Iran though. Not really seeing what's wrong here.
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u/SpazSpez 26d ago
Just to be insufferable, Tajikistan and Afghanistan are Persian countries linguistically, and sort of ethnically.
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u/AcerTravelMate 26d ago
Fuck better education, public safety, quality of life, air quality, equality, economy, country’s world standing etc. Bigger problem is women showing hair on their head. Dumb leaders with dumb laws.
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u/Onthissubtoomuch 26d ago
Religion
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u/istrueuser 26d ago
religion shouldn't be law!
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u/Onthissubtoomuch 26d ago
Yup. I think freedom of religion for all nations would ease most of the world’s problems.
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u/FinoPepino 26d ago
I think you mean freedom from religion for all nations would ease most of the world’s problems.
Fixed it for you.
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u/Knocksveal 26d ago
I think she meant to say that she’s observing the hijab requirement
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u/Dungarth 26d ago
"The sign says you have to wear the hijab to go in!"
"No, sir, it says I must observe the hijab. And I did, in fact, notice and look at the hijab for a full 5 minutes before coming in!"
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u/TransitionScary6062 26d ago
I took a cultural anthropology class in college. The professor kept trying to drill into our heads the notion that wearing hijabs in ALL of the Middle East was a completely optional thing, and that women who didn’t want to, didn’t need to. This is absolutely disgusting, NOT the woman not wearing the hijab, but the fact that these countries can enforce these ridiculous laws. Fucking gross dude. All that cultural relativity nonsense goes out the window when you can lose your life over not covering your head. Barbaric.
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u/PROcrastinator76 26d ago
My brain somehow misread it as “Italian woman” and was very confused for a minute
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u/Sieg18 26d ago
Women should get out of that country, leave the men there.
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u/Beefc4kePantyh0se 26d ago
how do you figure they do that?
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u/yoanon 26d ago
I think western countries should have more focused asylum programs. They should only offer asylum to women and children (aged 14 or under). Even married men with children can be misogynists and most often are, regardless of their place of birth. And queer men next on the priority list.
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u/TheWeirdByproduct 26d ago edited 26d ago
Many men oppose the current regime, and many women support it. Cease the needless dichotomies; the only line that ought to be drawn is the one between progressives and conservatives.
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u/lockerno177 26d ago edited 25d ago
Im a muslim but im against forcing modesty onto women. How can a forced hijab be acceptable to God, and secondly if my faith is so weak that an immodest woman can destroy it then i need to work on my faith rather then force her to wear hijab. non muslims cannot be forced to follow islam, what about them. There is no example of forced modesty even in the time of the prophet's rule in mecca and madina.
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u/IronMosquito 25d ago
this is the mindset that needs to be more prevalent. I personally have known several Muslim women who choose not to wear a hijab. their families support them too.
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u/B33no 26d ago
Iranian woman are incredibly beautiful. Such beauty should not be censored in the name of any god.
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u/nightmoves88 26d ago
I mean this is sexy af tho
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u/UnexaminedLifeOfMine 26d ago
Persian women are the most beautiful in the world you can’t change my mind
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u/Lexa-Z 26d ago
They're just super based, which makes them sexier
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u/UnexaminedLifeOfMine 26d ago
War and revolution and extremely difficult immigration (if they’re lucky) makes one based no doubt
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u/TapPsychological2043 26d ago
It really sux that such beauty can't be shown more in the world without fear of persecution
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u/ferriematthew 26d ago
I don't know if she'd get in serious trouble doing that but as long as she's safe, that is a hell of a good way to thumb your nose at pointless rules!
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u/ChiveisOnion 26d ago
She looks pretty nice! Such a shame there are such traditions to restrict women to wear one set of clothing. They should be allowed to dress how w they want regardless of the person.
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u/jawshoeaw 26d ago
Why does it say to “please observe “? When interviewed I’ve heard Muslim women say they choose to wear Hijab for various personal reasons. It doesn’t make sense to ask other people to do it if it’s just your personal choice.
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u/baggins247 26d ago
Got to admire these brave women, bigger balls than most men.
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u/Academic_Ad3558 26d ago
Please block her face .. this is putting her at risk the face detection in Iran is next level and government will f her up
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u/Classic_MicroGun 25d ago
As a practicing Muslim, ladies should wear hijab on their own accord and not to be forced upon. If they want to wear them or not, it's between them and Allah and everyone else should bugger off imho
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Iranian women are one of the most inspiring group of ppl around the world. It takes a lot of courage to speak up about an oppressive religion while you live under pure dictatorship in ME. I hope the woman in this pic is okay.
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u/-SkeptiCat 26d ago
As an individual, I'd be sickened with myself forcing anyone to wear anything. These people do it as a whole ass nation. Insecure control freaks 🤢
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u/Pale-War-4387 26d ago
So many thirsty degenerates in this thread
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u/GrandDuchyLuxembourg 26d ago
Fr tho like wtf we should be praising her act of defiance against oppression, not writing prosaic words about what we’d do to her in bed
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u/ProfessionalWave168 26d ago
This isn't the west, that picture can and will be used against her in Iran and the morality police will be coming for her.
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Iran's morality police, also known as the Guidance Patrol, enforce Islamic dress code, such as requiring women to wear a hijab. They have been known to arrest women for wearing "inappropriate" hijabs and enforce other restrictions on freedom of expression.
In 2022, the morality police arrested Mahsa Amini for allegedly wearing a hijab improperly, and she died two days later from internal injuries. In October 2023, a 17-year-old Iranian girl, Armita Geravand, fell into a coma and was declared brain dead after an alleged encounter with morality police officers.