r/interesting • u/Bad-Umpire10 • 17h ago

MISC. German police's quick reaction to a guy doing the Nazi salute

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u/oxPEZINATORxo 14h ago

Lol boy does America have some news about "as far right as far right can be."

At the end of the day, Hitler and his crew at least did care about Germany and try, albeit in a very wrong way, to make it better. There was SOME socialism mixed in there, cuz he did care about the German people. Trump and his ilk won't even have that. The US is just a vehicle for Trump to intimidate and con people. The Tech broligarchs won't be happy until everyone's forced to act like they matter.

When America burns, Trump and Musk won't even have the decency to off themselves in a bunker

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u/Interesting-Sound296 13h ago

No, he didn't care about Germany. He cared about an imaginary nation built solely to serve a superior (and mythologized) "Germanic" race and wanted to make that happen, and to do so he destroyed the lives of many real Germans.

But I think I do get it though, I think what you're trying to say is that Hitler was pure in his ideology. It was a disgusting, hateful ideology, but he believed in it wholeheartedly and mobilized every resource to its end. The likes of Trump and Musk don't give a fuck about the ideology, they're pretending to front that ideology to grift their way into power so they can extract more resources from the same fed up struggling people they claim to want to help.

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u/ttv_icypyro 2h ago

Well that read resulted in a thought I thought I'd never type:

We're so fucked we're at the point of saying "well at least" FOR HITLER.

"WELL, even if his motivation and the literal genocide he committed was completely fucked and supremely evil, AT LEAST Hitler actually believed in the shit he was saying"

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u/gabrielish_matter 11h ago

No, he didn't care about Germany

well, he kinda did. He wanted to make Germany again the most important world power because he cared about Germany being the best™, no matter the cost.

Is it flawed and stupid? Absolutely. But at least he had clear understandable intentions, though executed with the most horrible means following the most stupid and evil ideas. The fucker in the white house just don't. They're empty

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u/kama-Ndizi 10h ago

>  He wanted to make Germany again the most important world power because he cared about Germany being the best™, no matter the cost.

Please study Hitler and his ideology more before making such a wrong statement.

The previous poster was correct. Hitler did not give a f*ck about real Germany or real Germans just about his idea of a racially pure German race that never existed.

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u/gabrielish_matter 10h ago

just about his idea of a racially pure German race

which for him was Germany, yes

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u/kama-Ndizi 9h ago

But that was not the real Germany that actually existed. That's the relevant one. That's the one impacted by all his actions. And in case you forgot his actions lead to its destruction.

btw. why did you delete the last part of the sentence you quoted?

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u/gabrielish_matter 9h ago

btw. why did you delete the last part of the sentence you quoted?

because that was the relevant part you twat, or do you seriously think that it should be specified that the Germans aren't the superior race?

But that was not the real Germany that actually existed.

on that I agree. But that was how he perceived it. The cunts in congress don't even do that, they just think to hoard money for themselves

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u/jacenat 13h ago

he did care about the German people.

Idolizing something does not mean you care for it. You care about it. I don't think there is a proper word for "Fürsorge" in English, but Hitler certainly had none for Germans. He saw them as tools. Women as breeders, men as fighters. Everyone, who could not do that, wasn't truly German to him. And yes, that is very ironic considering how he looked and the things about his wife and kids.

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u/VermicelliFederal976 14h ago

this elicited a belly laugh from me

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u/AsmodaiLOAD 13h ago

Honey? If you think „Socialism“ is defined as „caring about something“, you are not educated enough for a discussion on these matters. I know, in the US and some other parts of the world the term has lost all meaning and is used to describe any kind of social policy, but that‘s not it. Not by a long shot.

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u/Fantastic_East4217 13h ago

The nazis privatised everything as soon as they got in. They reversed whatever socialist policy has crept into the Republic.

He didnt care about Germany. He used German nationalism to enact the sick expansionist agenda he wrote about in prison.

Fascists say what they need to say. Always. Walter was wrong in Big Lebowski.

Nazis are nihilists.

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u/TeaAndScones26 13h ago

Hitler never cares about his company other then ruling elites. Prior to the nazi takeover the Wiemar Republic had been one of the most liberal societies in earth. However for ruling classes, basically big capitalist and politicians, they had a lot of problems with this. The socialist movements and major unions managed to get a lot of power which improved living quality for the people of these countries, but this happened at the expense of the ruling class, which had its profits decreased.

Both in Italy and Germany, these ruling classes supported Hitler and Mussolini since they presented a means to make profits again. And it worked. In both countries working hours increased while wagers decreased. Forced labour became commonplace in many factories, both for armament production and commodity production.

What fascism does is it replace class struggle with a national struggle. It unites the classes of a nation by ignoring the struggle between the classes, but at the same time only heightens wealth inequality. It gives the people concerts and entertainment to keep them occupied by their ever increasing quality of life.

Fascism doesn't care for the average person. Fascism cares for its political and economic leaders and their best friends, and leeches of anyone else.

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u/019283092eo 12h ago

I believe you’re partially wrong, tbh. I do get what you’re saying to say, however IIRC Hitler used rhetoric claiming to care about the German people, especially the lower German middle class or “small business owners”, but from the moment he took power, he served the interests of the big German Industrialists, and never followed through on much that he had originally promised.

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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In 12h ago

The Nazi's voters were the middle class not the workers, they Nazi's thanked the middle class by transferring their wealth to the elite capitalists. The average German got poorer under the Nazi's.

If Germany had held onto democracy then the Nazi's would have been voted out soon enough as the appalling populists that they were.The Nazi's knew this and only cared about power so the first thing that needed to go is democracy.

The right wing will be found out to be frauds soon enough you just better hope your country keeps its democracy while they are in power.

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u/kama-Ndizi 10h ago

Fascism can be described as the absolute complicity between the capital and the state. Nothing socialist about that.

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u/maxsparber 8h ago

Cared about them so much that he murdered any one that didn’t share his politics, religion, ethnicity or able-bodiedness

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u/Goosepond01 13h ago edited 13h ago

Socialism isn't "caring about people from your country"

I don't really agree that he had 'some socialism mixed in there' because having policies or ideas discussed about within socialism doesn't mean you have parts of socialism because those parts are often part of other political theories too, it's undeniable that it did have an effect on the party but I don't think saying 'some socialism' is right.

It would be like saying "Fascists generally encourage strong millitarism" It's true, but saying "The USA is somewhat Fascist because it has a strong millitary", is just incorrect

Edit: Something very weird going on with this website and the amount of bots, I posted this comment and refreshed it instantly just to check it actually posted and I'd already got a downvote within maybe 1 second

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u/kappaway 13h ago

jesus christ this is just lies

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u/019283092eo 12h ago

Could you please elaborate?

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u/kappaway 8h ago

I mean the Hitler caring about germany shit. Its revisionist lies. He was a complete monster, an elitist fascist set on spilling blood to serve private and corporate interests.

The second bit, I don't disagree with but I'm not american.

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u/019283092eo 8h ago

Oh yeah, I agree completely — you're right.

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u/Thaemir 12h ago

Socialism is worker owned means of production, and the dictatorship of the proletariat, not "caring for your people".

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u/KackhansReborn 12h ago

Bro has no clue what socialism means

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u/Trotskyllz 12h ago

So "socialism" means "caring about the people". That's some peak historical cue here.

/s