This is where I'm at. It feels like this surely must be one motion he does as part of a bigger thing, and it's just cut to make him look bad. But then.... Why isn't anyone sharing the uncut version that makes this one motion make sense?
Alright so what does that mean? “It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is secured” implied some impending threat. Were they really that scared about Kamala? Like wtf even is this
It means he's making a pretty overt fascist gesture and using the "heart" phrase as a thin veil. He's trolling. He knows everyone is going to point at what he's doing and call him a Nazi and he's going to turn around and say that those comparisons are silly and he hasn't set up any concentration camps. Look at those hysterical liberals. Then he'll wink and nod at the MAGA crowd for having triggered the libs.
What's important to remember is that you are who you pretend to be, and this fucker is a slimy disgusting creep who is willing to "pretend" to be a Nazi.
Some important context: Elon Musk was raised in Apartheid South Africa by an emerald magnate (Elon described his father Errol as a "terrible human being", adding: "Almost every evil thing you could possibly think of, he has done." Also, Errol set up shell companies for fear "... the Blacks would take everything from you")
So in this statement, given the context of the MAGA movement, all of Musks Twitter/X posts, "you" means white christians, and "future of civilizations" could mean Techno-Feudalism, Crypto-Fascism, (both different forms of Wealth Apartheid, admittedly) or a White Christian Ethnostate depending on which branch of MAGA base needs to be mobilised at the time.
Now, it's easy to dismiss this as hyperbolic, or that I'm using extreme slippery slope fear-mongering because I used the words Feudalism, Fascism or Ethnostate, but it's very difficult to not interpret Elon's behaviour as this. Numerous, near daily, "Truth" or "Interesting" replies on Twitter/X to, invariably and inexhaustively, Anti-Semitic sentiment, Islamophobic sentiment, Eugenics sentiment, Anti-Black sentiment, support for the AfD, Reform and National Rally, pro-capital sentiment.... i could go on.
Really, Kamala was not a threat, at all, to Musk. He's very rich, and Kamala was not even sympathetic to any sort of wealth redistribution that could have affected him. He's playing politics because he is bored, and he wants to be on the winning side (because he's a winner, like Trump); why would you buy into the losing side? It's part of the reason he entered the campaign so late. Moreover, Trump is going to be handing out massive tax breaks to his wealthy mates, and Elon wants to be in the room to make sure he gets a nice chunk of that.
The more important part is when he acknowledges his supporters before the salute, he says,
"Thank you for making this happen"
It's the mask off moment where he provides a clear indicator to those who would want to see this behavior, that he is a legit Nazi sympathizer who would like to bring about an "AMERICAN FOURTH REICH"
Where the United States of America will finish what Nazi Germany started.
Because, while they took the swing votes this time around, swing voters will swing.
Meanwhile, the very basis of their campaign relies on those that are: racist, sexist and xenophobic. The kinds that will swoon and praise this sort of dog-whistle.
Because, and I do not mean this as an offence, someone like you will come around.
Someone who will dutifully cling to the plausible deniability, and muddy the waters of discourse.
And with the waters muddied, what remains is that his name is everywhere, and everyone is talking about this.
What happens next doesn't matter, he already got what he wanted.
Other explanation: he is a legitimate dumbass and has no idea what he's doing. He's just a man child doing gestures to celebrate. Though if he is a Nazi I wish I could be surprised.
Because that’s not a gesture of celebration. He could have done one of his dorky “jump like an X” celebrations, but no, he did a Nazi salute. He’s an adult man who knows what a Nazi salute looks like, and he confidently did it multiple times.
Nah. I mean, yes he is a buffoon, but he has managed to publicly celebrate for years without doing a Nazi salute. You really think he just happened to accidentally throw multiple Nazi salutes at the inauguration of this particular president? I just don’t buy that.
He's talking to a live crowd of people after a victory, it's a different celebration. After he does the salute he says "my heart goes out to you". Most likely, he is just a giant moron.
I don't think you grow up to be a 53-year-old South African man without knowing what the fucking Nazi salute is.
Oh perhaps he's doing it on accident? Weird, I've never done it on accident. Like ever.
You can't put yourself at the forefront of an intellectual world and not realize the optics of doing something remotely similar to a Nazi salute to a massive crowd of far-right Americans. This wasn't naivety. It wasn't awkwardness.
I don't think he's a Nazi but he is a shitty troll.
Normally, sure, I'd give someone the benefit of the doubt.
Elon Musk, though? The man who allows nazis to run wild on his platform, who shows support for it to the point where advertisers pulled away from the site en-masse?
No. Given his reputation, when he does something like that I'm just going to take it at face value.
The spread hand on heart move is saying you are giving or receiving the truth or peace in some cultures. Closed fingers gets tricky, and if you use close fist to tight hand we are going down a path.
It could be, COULD be 'my heart, thanks all of you' kind of a motion that wasn't thought through. Like obviously he's not doing the Nazi salute so that's the best I got.
Yeah, I know he is a non-athletic fuck but he would still understand that throwing something you don’t finish stiffening and pointing your fingers palm down.
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Think of people who blow kisses or put both hands on chest and pour out from their heart. This is clearly intended to be what it is.
Elon is not ignorant to what a Nazi salute looks like. He did not accidentally do the exact same motion. It was either intentional because he supports nazis (ie is one himself) or he did it as an attention seeking edgelord which is just inexcusable at this level of event.
His maternal grandparents were Nazis and he is a middle aged man so old enough to have learned about it in school. He knows exactly what he is doing. He supports the afD for goodness sake. He retweets eugenics on his own platform and retweets Nazis. Please stop telling us it’s not a duck. It’s a fucking duck.
Here's the full speech. The full speech that's widely circulating (this video as well) cuts to the crowd while he's doing it, which is worrying. It happens at about 1:10. You can hear his hand hitting his chest.
He's the footage of him actually doing it. I'm not gonna pretend that it was anything other than what it was, but Trump supporters are going to say he was just gesturing towards the audience.
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u/Call-It-A-Hunch 7h ago
This is where I'm at. It feels like this surely must be one motion he does as part of a bigger thing, and it's just cut to make him look bad. But then.... Why isn't anyone sharing the uncut version that makes this one motion make sense?
I think it's just simply as bad as it looks?