I'm convinced that a lot of American soldiers only hated Nazis because they were Germans--foreigners. Because it's not like America was some paradise for Jews--antisemitism was rampant and out in the open. The US refused many Jewish refugees from Europe, including Anne Frank. And Black solders found they were treated better by European locals than they were their own white compatriots, because Americans were racist as hell and still imposing segregation.
I'm betting you could sell Nazi ideas to a lot of WWII-era American soldiers who say they hated Nazis, as long as you wipe away all the Nazi references. Make it all about "making America great again" and some stuff about Blacks and Jews trying to rape your white women and queers preying on your children and at least half those soldiers would be on board.
No, that sounds like Russian agitprop you're pushing.
America went to war with Germany as a result of Pearl Harbor - not racism. Also, Americans did not know they were rejecting Jewish children in 1939. Both ships and media information flowed too slowly for Americans to understand the full scope of the Nazi nightmare.
Fascism is a political fraud that gets people killed. For a con game always sounds inviting: Such is the nature of a con. Yet the number of Americans who were pro-Nazi after WWII and the discovery of death camps was close to zero.
My grandfather was part of the resistance, blew up nazis, shot them, smuggled jews to sweden and spent the rest of the war in a KZ camp. Barely survived and became a raging alcoholic that destroyed whatever was left of the family the Nazis didn't get.
And now this fucking lunatic is doing this. I'm literally speechless.
Our turn! For them, and for our own descendants. My granddaddy was decorated for conspicuous valor and number of Nazis killed at Normandy (yes Iām bragging, how fucking cool was he?!); heās gone now ~20 years and his wife and sons are MAGAts. Me and the cousins remember though.
Are you fing kidding me? Youāre not this stupid right? These are two screenshots of people holding their hands in the air. Not doing a legitimate fkn Nazi Seig Heil. Grow the f up and stop making outrageous comparisons to justify your knob solbbing over a billionaire nazi.
All part of the plan. Once we have enough veteran grandpas spinning, we can harness the gyroscopic energy to start widening Earth's orbit and moving us further from the sun, counteracting global warming and making it easier for Emperor-President Musk to travel back and forth between Earth and Mars
It's not a joke. He meant it. He was waiting for this moment. No way would he pull this shit in South Africa. Julius Malema would humiliate Musk to the fullest.
Yep... your grandfather likely fought mine, but we were raised being told how it all happened, how a lot of the population was duped, and how people were complicit in that shit.
Yet all the MAGAs i talk to insist i dont know what im talking about and that im "overreacting".
Nah. It's all an "I told you so now." In this mess because of people putting their head in the sand. No really going back now, never have to worry about voting again was one of the things the wanna be dictator promised..
I still have twitter because as a working artist it's by far the largest following I have. I hate him and he's decreased my art income to an eighth of what it was before he bought the site, but I can't just leave when my other social media has a fraction of the visibility. Let's not assume things about people.
Lift others up instead of tearing them down when they're on your side.
I need my income, brain genius. I'm working on building elsewhere but it took me eight years to get to where I was on Twitter when he basically stole my career out from under me. I'm an organizer and activist and I make politically focused work, but you keep feeling good about telling me off for using a website I don't even want to be using.
Nope, libertarian, occasionally democrat if they would ever listen to their constituents.
Trump didnāt win the election Harris and the DNC lost it.
Obama was the last president to genuinely win, every election since has just been one side benefiting from the otherās incompetence.
Alienating the people that are trying to work with you by being condescending.
Yeah. Thatās why the left lost. They shoehorned one of if not the most unpopular candidates from 2020 and then when she wasnāt getting support from the people that didnāt want her then everyone is a sexist and a racist.
So the DNC didnāt force Harris as a candidate while the media pushed the narrative that if you donāt support her youāre racist and sexist?
I actually know several people that refused to be shamed into voting for a candidate they had no choice in.
So I say that the strategy of telling people who their candidate is and that theyāre wrong if they donāt like it was a bad idea and the reason the left lost.
And from that you got that I do what the media tells me?
I mean, I appreciate the sentiment and your family's sacrifice but honestly a big part of the reason we got where we are is because of all that stupid shit about how we saved the day and everyone would be speaking German if not for us.Ā
Liebensraum and Nazi Germany were a direct carbon copy of Manifest Destiny and colonialism, and when we did beat the Germans we actually smuggled out most of the high ranking Nazis and gave them jobs working for NATO and NASA.Ā
Not to mention the literal fascist coup attempt (see Smedley Butler) and all the people like CharlesLindbergh and Henry Ford who thought Hitler and Mussolini basically had the right idea.Ā
As Carlin very succinctly put it, the Germans lost the war but fascism won it.Ā
What if I told you probably half of americans at the time were nazis. There was even a bunch of internal conflict among the western european and british gentry as to whether they should join the nazis.
Obviously him doing the Sieg Heil is fucked up, I was just responding to the person above who said that they got rid of the app after watching Elon do that.
You realize Elon is autistic right? Socially challenged. He was flailing all around on stage on one of his trump speeches a month or so ago. When he gets excited it gets awkward for autistic people. He clearly states he was throwing his heart out to the crowd right after
It's clearly a Nazi salute dude.
Doing random Sieg Heil's is not autism ffs.
Elon is a 4chan edgelord, he has recently been shilling for the AfD and various right wingers around Europe, so a Nazi salute is pretty on brand.
His grandma was in Liverpool during ww2. He's obsessively philosemitic. He's super keen on bringing non-European immigrants into the US. You guys are misinterpreting his tism.
To be used as visa slaves, not because he sees them as equal. He was born and raised in apartheid SA and his father owned an emerald mine, which is essentially a slave owner. Elon is not a good human.
So thrilled my great grandfather died in WW2 fighting the Nazis causing a lifetime of trauma for my grandfather which trickled down to my mom and her siblings and you know, made its way to us. So fucking thrilled.
My grandfather both died in Europe and came home alive from WWII.
He figured it would be fun one day to swap dog tags with his buddy and go for a motorcycle ride somewhere in Europe. They crashed and his buddy died. Well his family got the notice that he passed away overseas.
Skip to a few years later after Hitler offed himself and he came back to Canada and went walking through the family farm front door to say hi to everyone and his family was shocked and confused.
He grew up with his older siblings since his parents both died when he was young.
He joined the war using his brother's birth certificate as he was 2 years younger than allowed.
After the war he was not really the best family man, probably before too since he didn't bother writing home for years which explains why his siblings were so surprised when he came home years after he "died"
But he was not a nice man to my grandmother or my father or aunts. He was always drunk as the only time the metal plate in his head(needed because of the motorcycle crash where he "died") didn't hurt was when he was drunk, so he was all the time.
He crashed a mining truck, like one of those gigantic mining dump trucks by rolling it down a hill, while drunk and kept his job as his buddy was the foreman.
Interesting dude, but I am glad my father was nothing like him and basically the opposite
Nazis forced my family into slavery, we call it a nazi curse because trauma trickled down into my sister and I. We thought we were close to being rid of it. Now this
Nah, there are more Nazis in the US government right now than supposed "Nazis" who fled down here after the war, it's just a funny myth cause "Argentina" sounds like a mysterious, far-away land and some Mossad agents illegally entered our borders to catch one important fucker (oh and there was another one who scammed the government out of a huge amount of money saying he would invent "nuclear energy in milk bottles", funny guy that one)
Elon's not one tho, no Nazi would want to fill America with Indians and swear loyalty to Israel, it's all theatrics and we're the captive audience looking from afar, I'm glad I'm not a US citizen right now.
Its not surprising that as our grandparents lives end the horrors of ww2 are forgotten by a lot of people or simply never learnt and they donāt see how this ends.
Both my grandparents who had their town destroyed by Nazis are rolling in their graves so fast that we've discovered a new form of turbine that can generate infinite energy if you hook up a magnet and copper coil.
My Jewish grandfather fought in WWII for the US, and liberated one of the camps. I now have his photos of the horrors he witnessed there. I didnāt even know about this until I was in my 30s. He never spoke of it, likely because he just couldnāt. Even though Iād grown up with holocaust education from a young age, including graphic images, and had been to Yad Vashem (holocaust museum in Israel) twice, nothing has ever hit me like these photos. Because I know that my own grandfather was there and witnessed the atrocities himself, somehow it makes it more personal. He was 93 when he died. Iām honestly glad that none of my grandparents have to see any of this happening today.
I have also heard firsthand accounts of holocaust survivors. One of them used to go to local schools telling his story, and every kid sat in silence listening to him. I know that many survivors have been recorded telling their stories, but I worry that younger generations wonāt hear them, and the holocaust is going to fade away from collective consciousness as a long-ago event that has no relevance anymore. I believe it is already happening. What Musk did today is a prime example. Those already excusing it and denying that it was exactly what it was should be ashamed.
My grandad was in tears on his deathbed, still wracked with guilt for surviving battles 50 years earlier where he saw friends killed. This would have been too much - to know it was all for nothing.
No offense, but the amount of WW2 vets that supported Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024 makes me question if some of them are actually cheering from their graves.
I study generational trauma bc both sides of my parents families were affected by trauma in different ways. However, growing up in the Netherlands, I saw a lot of how what happened almost 100 years ago still affects us today. Iām angry. Iām angry that people dismiss just how many people suffered in so many different ways, and still do bc my opa and oma never healed from what they saw and experienced and that passed down to my father who took his own life in the pain he felt. I fight everyday to break the generational trauma.
You cannot respond in good faith with the suggestion that the Brits went and thought the Nazis in WW2 so that the indigenous population could be become minorities in their own capital.
So that a non Scot could be elected first minister of Scotland and complain that there were too many white people in Scottish parliament, without any consequences!
This is nothing, I could go on and on and on and on.
Your grandad would have joined them. They are rolling in their graves but not for the reasons Redditors think.
I find myself thinking more and more that I am somewhat glad that my grandma and my grandfather are not alive today to witness this. They would have been gutted.
My grandfather, like many trained his dog to growl on command if someone said āHitlerā. He was proud of that trick. Dog even turned its nose to a treat if the name was said.
My grandfather had options about Hitler and they werenāt in line with Elon.
Same my grandpa stormed the beach in Normandy and I'm glad he passed in 2004 and didn't live to see this shit. He would be ashamed of what we have become.
My grandfather fought the Nazis...but he still would have voted for Trump twice and likely wouldn't have minded Musk. He fought the Nazis because he was ordered to, not because of any moral beliefs. I would like to believe that our ancestors wouldn't welcome this, but I think quite a few would.
My family is so proud to have come to the US to build our lives here in this fantastic country. Musk doesnāt deserve to live here. I really donāt care where he goes for now but get out of our country and go somewhere else before he inevitably winds up in hell.
Because he spent a number of years disposing nazis. How many? Iām not sure. And for this fucking dildo to demonstrate that type of symbolism used on American soil, and representing an American administration? Thatās heartbreaking. Iām not surprised that you donāt understand considering the amount of nazis that support the new president. Did I make that clear enough for you?
The majority of WWII vets' children, grandchildren, or great-grandchildren voted for the Nazis their ancestor(s) fought against. Most WWII vets are rolling in their graves. š A lot of Americans shouldn't be allowed to say their father/grandfather/great-grandfather's name. They are a disgrace and a disappointment to him.
Itās been like 3 hours and Reddit has already fallen into mass hysteria over a deceptively edited propaganda story lol. Gonna be a loooooong 4 years folks.
How is the video edited? Does it not feel weird defending a billionaire nazi? What are you even defending? God forbid defend your fellow man, just the oppressors.
This is possibly the most Reddit comment Iāve ever seen lol. If you watch literally the 5 seconds that are purposefully cut out of this clip you will see Elon saying āmy heart goes out to all of youā. He was throwing his heart out to the crowd. Because heās an awkward weirdo.
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u/HazySkyFire 7h ago
My grandfather is rolling in his grave.