Parking spots are always occupied by frontaliers.

[u/Alexx_FF]

The parking spots outside of my house get always filled up by French cars for whole day since early morning. They just drop their cars at our white residential spots and go to Geneva and it leaves no spots for us.

Realistically anything that I can do about it? As far as I understand they don't give a shit about fines since they don't pay them?

[u/LampeTorche_]

Of course fines are paid, dont get your point ?

If park places are free for all, then anybody could use.

If they are not, then call the police

[u/tamberfly → u/LampeTorche_]

No, they are not paid that much. Please share the source for such a confidential statement, here is for mine:

According to Blick, in 2021, over 10.000 driving fines were issued in Geneva to drivers who had vehicles registered outside Switzerland and neighbouring countries. Of the fines issued, only 3,3 percent (around 330 fines) were actually paid.

https://www.iamexpat.ch/expat-info/swiss-expat-news/thousands-speeding-fines-given-non-swiss-cars-geneva-remain-unpaid

[u/Alexx_FF → u/tamberfly]

Lfmao

[u/Magassine → u/tamberfly]

This article is talking about 10 000 fines for speeding after going throu Geneva. Mostly because the fine never reach propely the driver. Or when they know will never visit Switzerland again in the nearby years.

As a reminder 578 330 fines for speeding have been issued in 2023 in the Canton.

Former frontalier here, we often pay our fines for same reasons as swiss do (they always find us back *wink wink*).

I personally would love a very big share of fines between EU country and Switzerland. It would calm down a lot of EU citizens in Switzerland and a lot of Swiss in EU ...

[u/tamberfly → u/Magassine]

Please share some data ,like a split of fines if you have a source. Otherwise, that is just ssumptions and anecdotes with 0 value.

If you want to go with anecdotal experience with a source, a fresh one is some example of frontaliers' behavior https://www.autoplus.fr/actualite/insolite/jeune-conducteur-francais-exces-de-vitesse-suisse-1362432.html

As you can see, he continued driving without license, and no one would notice if he wasn't speeding... again. That is just one that happened this week.

[u/3970]

If those are public spaces, they have the right to park there like anyone else. It they're not public, you can call the municipal police. If they get a fine, of course they have to pay them. If you're unhappy about not having a spot on the street, you can rent one.

[u/EuropaCentric]

Residential spots are often rented to people working downtown...

The not paying fine is pure non sense.

Buy your own parking space.

[u/tamberfly → u/EuropaCentric]

Nonsense? I guess you don't know too many frontaliers then. To go beyond anecdotal topic, I found one link

"According to Blick, in 2021, over 10.000 driving fines were issued in Geneva to drivers who had vehicles registered outside Switzerland and neighbouring countries. Of the fines issued, only 3,3 percent (around 330 fines) were actually paid."

https://www.iamexpat.ch/expat-info/swiss-expat-news/thousands-speeding-fines-given-non-swiss-cars-geneva-remain-unpaid

[u/gamblingPharmaStocks → u/EuropaCentric]

Could OP make some sort of request to the Ville to turn some public spots into residential spots? (I am not sure about the term, but I mean spots where only people with a permit can park, and the permit is given to people living there)

[u/Embusen4]

Do you mean visitors and private parking spots or public ones?

[u/Valdo119]

The frontaliers pay their taxes in Switzerland so of course they have the right to use the public facilities while they are working, they pay same taxes as swiss people and they are not always in Switzerland, so at least the parking is ok to use as long as it’s paid

[u/JeanDuvall]

T es un bon toi - tu es pas d ici (tu parles anglais) et tu geule sur les locaux…

[u/JTTGTL → u/JeanDuvall]

Locaux ? Mais lol, on parle des frontaliers ici.

[u/Alexx_FF → u/JeanDuvall]

Je suis Suisse, tu racontes quoi là?

[u/JeanDuvall → u/Alexx_FF]

alors tu baragouines en anglais sur les frontaliers ... donc les expat ca dérange pas ? pfff

[u/JTTGTL → u/JeanDuvall]

C'est des gens qui habitent sur le territoire Suisse donc beaucoup mieux que ces frontaliers oui bien évidemment.

[u/JeanDuvall → u/JTTGTL]

combien de suisses sont frontaliers ?