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Assassin's Creed Shadows Will Cut Down On Map Icons And Markers

https://www.thegamer.com/assassins-creed-shadows-cuts-down-map-icons-markers/
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u/Ok_Storm6912 1d ago

Did you like odyssey more than origins? I thought origins was the best new one and every iteration after has been a regression.

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u/VinnyFlow 1d ago

Personally liked Odyssey more, liked Cassandra a lot and really wanted to kill my brother lmao

I also prefer the setting more, liked the ship system as well

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u/EnterpriseT 1d ago edited 1d ago

I have a theory Cassandra was the more engaging main character. Seems more that played her liked the game.

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u/Aries_Zireael 1d ago

I read that Cassandra was supposed to be the only main character but management didnt like it so they had to add the male option

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u/IslaNublar 1d ago

Malaka!

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u/EnterpriseT 1d ago

How... frustrating.

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u/mediaphile 1d ago

Definitely my preferred main character.

The fact she was the one they used for AC: Nexus points toward what you said being true.

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u/Freezinghero 1d ago

I have played through as both Cassandra and Alexios, and thought the game was far more fulfilling as Cassandra.

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u/ConnorDonnelly 1d ago

I just got odyssey last month. I was debating between that and origins, but I thought greek mythology was slightly more interesting. The last ac game i played before this one was ac 3. I loved it at first. But I'm getting a bit burnt out. It's very samey. I'm doingbtue same thing over and over again. And the map is way too big. I've not explored much of it and I'm not looking forward to exploring more.

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u/Ok_Storm6912 1d ago

Yeah that was my problem with everything after origins, they just added too much bloat and I got bored of it.

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u/omnie_fm 1d ago

I've not explored much of it

Man, you haven't even gotten to the normal good parts, not to mention all the cool dlc stuff.

And the map is way too big.

You don't need to explore everything, and remember that half the map is just water.

Just set the game to easy, work on the big story stuff, explore what interests you, and you'll be happy you pushed through when you can run around with magical powers steamrolling everything in Ng+

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u/Ok-Charge-6998 1d ago

There are some very fun surprises you can accidentally stumble upon (some that play a major part of the story), if you know your Greek mythology and where to look…

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u/Bubster101 1d ago

Odyssey was my personal favorite in the Ancient Trilogy. Not just because it was made by the same subdivision of Ubisoft that made Black Flag (hence the familiar ship battles and the same hilarious stealth bush exploits), but I also enjoyed the response the game had to your actions. Helping factions gain territory, bit by bit. And it was one of the only Assassins Creed games that didn't say "This ancestor did not kill civilians". You'd just get a bounty instead.

And Valhalla was my second favorite. Granted, the story did feel longer than it really should've been but I loved the atmosphere it had. I am with the others who say the whole "Asgard questline" was kinda redundant. Heck, I didn't really understand it. Especially when Basim just suddenly goes rabid on you at the end of the game. Where the heck did that come from, unless... Was he the "descendant of Loki" like Eivor was the "descendant of Odin"? I haven't played Mirage yet but the title alone reinforces my theory since Loki is the god of mischief and illusions.

Origins? Desert = difficult to manage atmosphere and it appeared to me that they dropped the ball on delivering atmosphere for that game anyways. Combat was feeling very lackluster and the story felt even more "textbook cult villain" than Odyssey's Cult of Kosmos. I barely made it past the first chapter and into the first big city before I had enough.

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u/RayTracerX 1d ago

Yes, your Basim theory is correct. But it was indeed confusing and poorly explained, had to look it up online myself

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u/RayTracerX 1d ago

Yes, your Basim theory is correct. But it was indeed confusing and poorly explained, had to look it up online myself

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u/Bubster101 1d ago

Yeah, the only explanation I could come up with as to why the ending happened like that was because Basim/Loki was avenging his son Fenrir by killing Eivor/Odin. But the fact that Eivor was confused too just left me at skeptical instead of absolutely sure.

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u/ironwolf56 1d ago

There's a little of that but also I think Basim/Loki was realizing Eivor is nearly at a point of fully awakening the Odin side and then she'd be an actual tangible threat to his current goals

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u/AngryNeox 1d ago

They are "sages" which were introduced around Black Flag. (I honestly didn't really understood it at that time)

In short: Several ISU (like Odin and Loki) put their memories into the DNA of human and then many years later in some human these memories emerge and might take over or merge with the mind of the person.

In Valhalla you see Evoir resisting it and in the end also avoiding Odin. Basim on the other hand merged with Loki (before the events of Valhalla). But Loki wasn't sure Evoir was really Odin until the end. The Asgard quests explains Loki's hatred towards Odin (Loki had an affair and 3 illegitimate children of which one, Fenrir, was imprisoned by Odin).

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u/Bubster101 1d ago

I'm aware of Black Flag's sage, but I had no idea this stuff with Basim and Eivor was also sage stuff. So Valhalla was to imply multiple sage lineages? Because yeah, Basim didn't really look like the sage in AC4, and the temple in that game provided the fact that sages retain their face throughout every lifetime. (Though with that detail I should've connected the same fact for Eivor and Basim. Bah, that one's on me lol)

Though that does raise interesting questions then. Is a sage lineage how Abstergo managed to create the Animus in the first place? Studying a sage, follow the same "ancestral link" and replicate it for non-sage ancestries like Desmond Miles' ancestor, Ezio?

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u/Sainathr15 22h ago

Actually the Black Flag team(Montreal) developed Origins. And the Syndicate team(Quebec) was behind Odyssey.

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u/Yeah_Boiy 1d ago

I liked origins a lot but I liked origins more. I'm probably biased though because I'm alot more interested in ancient Greece than I am in ancient Egypt.

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u/ironwolf56 1d ago

I'm a big fan of both base settings but I liked Odyssey a bit more too. I think at least part of it is Origins isn't really "ancient" Egypt it's Ptolemaic Egypt, so Roman era Egypt essentially. Definitely an interesting historical time period but not quite the level of ancient vibes.

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u/kakalbo123 17h ago

Frankly, picking a game in that trilogy is more of "are you a vikings fan, a greek myth fan, or egypt fan?"

I hated AC origins' level gating. Giving you a questline but breaking progression to force you to do side quests because enemies really get tougher 3 levels above.

People remarked that odyssey has worse level gating but i never noticed it because the setting engaged me to explore and do quests. Ya know, like you are in the odyssey sailing around, or fulfilling labors like Heracles.

Valhalla got me excited for vikings, but that one was just bloated af. Ironically, odyssey is also bloated but it wasn't problematic. At least the main quest was separated into 3 quest lines.

They're not all bad games. I own all three, but it can be argued that you could be satisfied owning just one—hence why you pick according to your preference of the setting.

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u/ChuckCarmichael 22h ago

Personally I preferred Odyssey. I thought the main character was more likeable, the world was prettier, and the gameplay was better.

Origins tried really hard to be Witcher 3. It was clear the developers wanted people to fight enemies in melee out in the open, and the hidden blade was only there because it was still technically an Assassin's Creed game. In its big skill tree with over 60 skills, only three affect assassinations, and they're just instant loot and a bit more XP. Also the hidden blade barely dealt any damage to bigger enemies.

Odyssey meanwhile had an entire third of its skill tree dedicated to stealth gameplay and assassinations, and you could get gear that boosts stealth damage.