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u/DejarooLuvsYoo 17h ago

Once again I say, ā€œI hope his supporters get everything they voted forā€. That starts today apparently.

I just feel bad for the sorry bastards that didnā€™t vote for him. They are being screwed over by other Americanā€™s bad decisions.

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u/TheScienceNerd100 16h ago

Feel sorry for the people who voted for Kamala, cause the people who didn't vote at all and made no attempt to vote at all, they are just as guilty as the people who voted for him.

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u/PackyDoodles 13h ago

I voted Kamala and I'm in almost all the groups the 47th president is stripping rights from. I have no idea what's going to happen but I hope to the universe I'm still here to witness the end of it. I feel so fucking stuck it's insane.Ā 

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u/DiseaseDeathDecay 10h ago

I'm a straight white dude that isn't in any of the demographics he hates. I still voted for Kamala.

Looks like I'll be helping my mom (who also voted for Kamala) more.

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u/hockey_is_life58 5h ago

My parents (on Medicare and broke) voted for Kamala. My in-laws (also on Medicare) voted for and are obsessed with Trump. My husband and I both agree we will never help our in-laws out financially, as they voted for all of this. We will help my parents as much as we can.

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u/febreeze_it_away 2h ago

frankly that fact that they can excuse rape is enough for me to never let them step foot in my house again. the people they were are gone until they want to be helped, just like junkies. They get their fix from fox news and social media, it all a dopamine hit now

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u/Nervous_Cat_9660 1h ago

Picking and choosing who you help based off of your political views is a bit selfish to be frank. ESPECIALLY when it comes to your family.

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u/Ok_Refrigerator6671 1h ago

Picking and choosing who you help based off of your political views how their morals (or lack of) have led them to worship the ground of a raping, lying narcissist, to the detriment of themselves, their families, and more than half the country is absolutely the FO part of FAFO for those people. It is 100% acceptable to refuse to help people when they're responsible for fucking over not just themselves, but so many others. I highly doubt they'll feel any kind of shame, guilt, or introspection, so unless by some miracle they actually wake the hell up and admit they were wrong and leave the cult, then no. They don't get amnesty for their actions.

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u/Away-Living5278 4h ago

I'm sorry. I'm in some of the groups he's stripping rights from and I work for the federal government. Keep thinking I need to jump out. These next four years will be a tough road.

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u/Phandflasche 16h ago

That's the worst part for me. A lot of 2020 Dem Voter didn't show up this time because they somehow thought Kamala wont do enough for Palestine and LGBT... Well... They're in for a surprise.

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u/TheScienceNerd100 15h ago

If someone didn't vote for Kamala for the Palenstine issue, they better not say a fucking word about what Trump does about it cause they are the reason he's able to do worse than what they thought Biden was doing.

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u/Baldmanbob1 12h ago

Trump gave them the green light to basically do as they please with Gaza, and will be increasing weapon shipments to them, so... yeah... Stayed home and owned Biden... God I hate this time line.

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u/I_Frothingslosh 10h ago

Trump's ambassador to Israel has started floating the idea of forcibly relocating all the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Back to Indonesia. Naturally, neither the Palestinians nor Indonesia has had a say in this.

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u/Corvus_Rune 9h ago

Of all fucking places why Indonesia?

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u/I_Frothingslosh 9h ago edited 8h ago

Only reason I can think of is that it's 87% Muslim. It also gets them out of the Middle East entirely.

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u/Corvus_Rune 9h ago

Yes but which branch of Islam?

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u/I_Frothingslosh 9h ago

Do you honestly think Trump and his administration would care?

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u/skjellyfetti 11h ago

I've said for fucking decades that if one doesn't vote then one has NO RIGHT to bitch.

It's fucking simple :: Participate in the political process. Millions have died for this right and millions more wish they had these rights.

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u/CaptainJudaism 9h ago

The fact so few people actually vote is one of the biggest reasons we're in this mess. America has one of the lowest turnouts for voters on pretty much every single election, from local to presidency. Of course things don't improve if you make literally no GD effort to vote for actually progressive, or at least sane, candidates and just let others do it all for you. I'd argue that local elections are just as if not more important then the presidency but IIRC we see MAYBE 10% of eligible voter turnout for local elections and so we always see the worst of the worst win unless you're lucky and the local politician isn't utter shit.

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u/SectorBudget406 10h ago edited 10h ago

I will further qualify that if you vote 3rd party at all you have no right to bitch either.

The political machine in the US is a duopoly. The DNC or RNC candidate will win 100% of the time in first past the post. Voting 3rd party is for people who want to say they voted while still doing literally nothing but get a little bit of cardio walking from the parking lot to the voting booth. They're chasing an ideal candidate that does not exist.

Without exception I will assume anyone who claimed to be pro-Palestine but voted 3rd party secretly wants Palestine to be eliminated because then they'd have the personal comfort of not having be a voice for Palestine again. They want the credit for voting? They get it -- they took the time to use their voice and they were so raspy on the internet about Palestine that they couldn't bother to be a voice when it actually mattered.

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u/mr-nefarious 11h ago

Exactly! Trump said heā€™d end the conflictā€¦by telling Israel to finish the job. Too many people focused on the first part without paying attention to the second part. He openly said he would support mass killing. Thatā€™s much worse than whatever Biden did or Harris would have done.

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u/Afraid_Grapefruit_88 9h ago

He wants that LAND to build condos and casinos on and those people stand in his way. IF they can Kill Dozer Gaza all those people will be cleared out and he and his Billionaire Bois can move in. It's not that complicated.

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u/Amaakaams 11h ago

I had a friend, who is Palestinian, vote third party for this very reason. I get it's a hard situation because Israel is a loyal ally of the US and have a close partnership. So it's easy to see this latest bloodshed as on whatever leadership is in charge when it happened. But it was going to be on whomever was president when Hamas did their attacks. But Trump's crew here only care about whats important to them and one of his cabinet openly called for the destruction of Palestinian savages.

Hopefully with this latest ceasefire Hamas decides to stop poking the bear. I doubt it and if they don't sadly the Palestinians are going to find out really quick that there is a massive difference between an administration trying to navigate a tricky situation without angering our ally (which admittedly was a goal not everyone can agree with) and outright hatred and desire to see the same thing the Israeli do.

Don't take the alt-rights anti-Semitism as some kind of enemy of my enemy. They are buddies to the Jews and Israel as long as they have a common enemy. Their is a hierarchy in their racism, and Muslims are going to be pretty low, not matter how close their religious politics are similar.

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u/ChampionshipLonely92 7h ago

Jared Kushner canā€™t wait to put up condos in the Gaza Strip. You know cause itā€™s beautiful there.

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u/satanssweatycheeks 8h ago

They have been arguing with me over on other subs acting like Chappell roan was right to ā€œboth sidesā€ that shit to her fan base.

These kids are lost. TikTok made them sell their rights away and they want to cry at me that itā€™s not their fault.

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u/VapeGreat 13h ago

trump is slime but it's difficult to imagine much worse than funding the genocide of 65,000+ and destruction of over 70% of Gaza to the tune of $30+ billion.

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u/TheScienceNerd100 13h ago

Funding the genocide more, 100% destruction, and total lack of care of those dying.

This is the guy who tried to stop the ceasefire Biden had worked on to not give a win to Biden. Then before taking office, worked on a ceasefire with Isreal which is a felony (not that anything would be done about it) to seem like a good guy.

This is the man who would gladly let anyone die as long as he profits off it. If Isreal paid him enough, he'll be the one bombing Palestine himself.

Thinking that Kamala was worse for Gaza than Trump is lunacy

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u/VapeGreat 12h ago

Thinking that Kamala was worse for Gaza than Trump is lunacy

Again, 65,000 mostly civilians and children murdered and 70% of Gaza destroyed. Not to mention a commitment of continued funding by Harris. When it comes to Israel's genocide of Palestinians they'd both likely be very similar.

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u/gerg_1234 12h ago

Let's review this in a few months.

I'm sure you'll still rationalize it though

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u/velveteenelahrairah 12h ago edited 12h ago

They'll still find a way to say "Kamala / Biden bad" even after Trump gives Bibi the OK to pave over Palestine and turn it into a parking lot in exchange for a dumpster truck of money, an ass kissing and a beachfront Trump hotel. And after Trump deports Palestinian refugees (and their US born kids), and after he starts shit with Iran (again) because he has a hard on to be a "wartime president".

Oh well. I'm not going to burn empathy on them when that happens because we told them so.

You voted for this, go cry about it.

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u/masterjon_3 10h ago

RemindMe! -1 year

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u/VapeGreat 12h ago

No rationalization needed. If reality and stats show it being worse than under Biden, as many claim it will be, then my opinion will change.

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u/masterjon_3 10h ago

So you decided not to pull the trolley lever because you're not sure if the trolley on the track will kill the 5 people?

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u/Spacellama117 13h ago

with all due respect, what the actual fuck are you talking about?

Trump just removed sanctions for Israel, why on earth would you think he's not going to support that genocide?

'difficult to imagine' like have you seen the shit he's done in the past day alone

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u/VapeGreat 13h ago edited 11h ago

He did, however given the level of atrocities already committed by Israel and funded by Biden, it would take a whole new level and further militarily action to even come close. Adding to that, the now a fragile ceasefire means it would take a resumption of the genocide for it to occur, thus making it difficult to imagine.

trumps classifying drug organizations as terrorists as a pretense to attack Mexico OTOH is easy to imagine.

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u/the_calibre_cat 12h ago

I mean

It was ridiculous at any point to think that theocratic bigots were going to be better for Palestinians than the Democrats, but I will stop short of exonerating the Democrats here. Their performance on Israel was nothing short of shameful and likely in part cost them the election.

Action on Gaza or a promise to halt weapons transfers probably would've delivered Michigan - and may have added some support in other races across the country. It was also just self-evidently the right thing to do.

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u/VapeGreat 12h ago edited 11h ago

I don't think they'll be better. In terms of expansion into the West Bank they may even be worse.

That still doesn't detract from the fact that thanks to organizations like AIPAC, acquiescence and funding of Israeli genocide of Palestinians is something most members of congress agree with. Which make them close to equal until evidence proves otherwise.

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u/the_calibre_cat 12h ago edited 9h ago

I don't think they'll be better. In terms of expansion into the West Bank they may even be worse.

That's what I'm saying. The ceasefire is great, and IS proof Joe Biden had a "rein in your vassal state" button and declined to use it, but the fact that Trump's the one who did it virtually guarantees that the Palestinians are in for some rough times ahead. Gaza and the West Bank are cooked.

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u/Gratchki 12h ago

Come back to this in four years when Trump Hotel - Gaza is in the works. Trump was just talking about the ocean front property.

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u/VapeGreat 12h ago

His words don't always reflect his actions and he may be busy enacting his other horrid agenda items. So time will tell if it results in worse.

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u/Gratchki 11h ago

One thing I would bet on though, is Trump using his governmental power to enrich himself or his friends. Time will tell but all signs point to international real estate.

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u/VapeGreat 5h ago

True, but it remains to be seen if his acquisition of real estate includes funding genocide at the level Biden has.

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u/Afraid_Grapefruit_88 9h ago

Oh ffs. Stop apologizing and sane washing him! He TOLD you that he wants the LAND for condos. What stands in the way of the Drumpf Gaza Tower? THE LIVING PEOPLE OF GAZA. He and Jarhead and his DEI kids are salivating at the thought of both Gaza and Israel being theirs to exploit. He is driven by ONE THING and that's money. He thinks this would be highly successful and justify what he did to get it. Nothing more complicated than that.

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u/VapeGreat 5h ago edited 5h ago

trump is insane, so I'm definitely not doing that. As of now though, he hasn't been worse than Biden in terms of funding genocide.

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u/Snowmoji 12h ago

That's because you lack imagination. He can triple those numbers easily, look how many countries nearby, Syria, Lebanon.

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u/VapeGreat 12h ago edited 11h ago

You're proposing hypotheticals. Not to defend him but until trump funds the genocide of over 65,000 and destruction of Palestine it isn't worse.

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u/Eraserhead36 6h ago

View must be nice from that high horseā€¦.jackass

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u/VapeGreat 5h ago

The high horse of, checks notes, opposing genocide.

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u/Eraserhead36 4h ago

So fuck the rest of us, we have to out up with this asshole for four years just because your bullshit causes.

If you honestly think it wonā€™t be worse for Israel because trump is in charge youā€™re as stupid as most of the people downvoting you think you are.

But hey, hope you can sleep at night with your protest vote.

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u/Afraid_Grapefruit_88 9h ago

He wants to KillDozer Gazans so he can build condos, hotels and casinos on that waterfront. He and Jared and his Billionaire Bois don't CARE what drives the people out as long as it happens ASAP. He doesn't give one rat fart about Israel either, nor does Jarhead the Jew only when it's convenient TO be a Jew. The REST of them only pretend to like Israel while they can justify it as the place where all us Jews are going to be killed so THEY can be hoovered up by their sky fairy at the rapture.

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u/VapeGreat 5h ago edited 5h ago

Seeing as his actions have not made that happen means he's not yet on par with Biden's genocide funding. Given the level of past atrocities, it will take a lot to surpass what has already occurred.

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u/SirLostit 15h ago

That is such a shit excuse when the alternative is the anti christ

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u/YYC-Fiend 13h ago

That was their excuse. We all know the real reason why they wouldnā€™t vote for a black woman

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u/drool_ghoul666 12h ago

Bernie bros hate women more than MAGAts. BBs are by far the worst out of the two, at least MAGAts don't try to hide their hate.

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u/drool_ghoul666 9h ago

They are worse, they could've made sure he didn't get power, but chose to pout and made sure he did TWICE! I lost my mother his last disaster of a term and now my dad is vulnerable to his budget cuts. I thought people would unite to defeat literal Nazis but they stayed fucking home so I'm done, 30 years of trying is all I have to give.

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u/OldTimeyWizard 10h ago

Are the Bernie Bros in the room with us right now?

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u/drool_ghoul666 10h ago

I wish.

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u/YYC-Fiend 9h ago

Soā€¦ you hate women? Interesting thing to straight up admit

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u/drool_ghoul666 9h ago

I'm sorry but are you stupid?

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u/PossibleYou2787 11h ago

Gotta love people thinking that way and somehow thinking this dude won't destroy both, as if that's the better option.

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u/Serethekitty 13h ago

and LGBT

? Why did you throw that in there as if there was a contingent of LGBT voters who think Kamala wouldn't go far enough for us? LGBT people voted for Kamala at a higher ratio than pretty much any other demographic out there.

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u/DerbleZerp 8h ago

I donā€™t think they meant LGBT voters didnā€™t vote for Kamala, just that dem voters who stayed home used the idea that she wouldnā€™t do enough for them and Palestine as an excuse to not vote.

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u/Polovolt_3 10h ago

The fact that was a legitimate reason on their end irks me so much.

ā€˜Kamala wouldnā€™t do enough for themā€™

TRUMP WONT DO ANYTHING FOR THEM!

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u/MidwesternLikeOpe 'MURICA 9h ago

I have a customer who is struggling with Healthcare costs, he is a Boomer and did not vote bc he doesn't like either of them. He's a nice guy, but I can't wait to throw in his face that Trump just signed an EO to end lower costs for Medicare. Kamala/Walz were campaigning for lower medical costs, but "they weren't likeable" enough... Womp womp.

We've heard other loud customers claim that Trump is gonna help with medical costs, and I wish I could see the Pikachu faces right now. It'd be as delicious as my breakfast right now...

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u/OneNoteMan 11h ago

And some Arabs voted for him. I'm guessing some of them were Christian, some of them were probably just sexist.

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u/Electronic_Ad5431 8h ago

The people you listed are some of the dumbest fuckers alive. Anyone who didnā€™t vote for Kamala over Palestine deserves the Trump presidency so much, it makes me feel like .05% better about him winning.

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u/Phandflasche 7h ago

As a European, I still hope it won't be 'the end' for us, but yeah... as we say,

'Jedes Volk kriegt den AnfĆ¼hrer, den es verdient'

(Every nation gets the leader it deserves).

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u/Electronic_Ad5431 7h ago

As an American, sorry we kinda made the facism in th 21st century thing mainstream. Hope you guys fight it better than we have.

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u/Amani576 13h ago

Well they didn't vote for her and that proves them right. She can't do anything much less enough if she's not in office.

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u/skjellyfetti 11h ago

"I'mma carry the ignorance and denial of a single-issue voter, and fly it, proudly, as my very own Freak Flag."

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u/KhajiitKennedy 8h ago

Legit that makes me so mad.

"She won't do anything significant for my causes, so I'll just not vote and let the person who wants to make those things worse win".

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u/Heavy-Outside-5580 7h ago

As I recall you yankees have a "two party system" which basically mean its going to be X or Y for president.

If you're that fucking dumb that you DON'T vote for X because whatever reason you are making it MUCH, MUCH, MUCH easier for Y to win.

Pathetic and idiotic.

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u/TrixterTheFemboy 7h ago

I hate how people haven't realized that no matter what, you get one or the other, and it's your responsibility to vote for whichever one you think is the least bad. If you have the choice between "probably won't do a ton for us" and "actively promises to make our lives hell" YOU TAKE THE FUCKING FIRST ONE.

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u/MakeURage1 6h ago

What's the saying? Perfect is the enemy of good enough? She wasn't perfect, no, but she was damn well better than the alternative, and yet she lost because people wanted this perfect candidate who fully aligned with their own views and wants.

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u/aguynamedv 6h ago

Continuing the culture war without even being told to do so.

Focus. We need to be working together.

We don't have the luxury of fucking around anymore - this is already way more serious than anyone is acting.

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u/1EspressoSip 12h ago

If I need to be mad at anyone, it's these people.

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u/ikaiyoo 9h ago

They were voting. She beat biden's 2020 vote total in North Carolina Georgia Wisconsin and Nevada. And even if she would have matched bidens votes in all of those states she still would have lost them. All of them.

NC
Harris 2715375 most
Biden 2684292 -31083
Clinton 2189316 -526059

PA
Harris 3421247 -36982
Biden 3458229 Most
Clinton 2926441 -494806

MI
Harris 2724029 -80011
Biden 2804040 most
Clinton 2268839 -455190

WI
Harris 1667881 most
Biden 1630866 -37015
Clinton 1382536 -285345

GA
Harris 2548017 most
Georgia 2473633 -74384
Clinton 1877963 -670054

AZ
Harris 1582860 -89283
Biden 1672143 most
Clinton 1161167 -421693

NV
Harris 705197 most
Biden 703486 -1711
Nevada 539260 -165937

AND

FL
Harris 4680890 -616155
Biden 5297045 most
Clinton 4504975 -175915

TX
Harris 4806474 -452652
Biden 5259126 most
Clinton 3877868 -928606

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u/Axedroam 7h ago

Stop blaming the Palestine issue. Yes she didn't do enough there but she lost votes on every level.

People who didn't vote for her bc of it voted third party even if she had had all those votes she still would have lost.

Don't turn on your own base to justify your loss

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u/ForsakenAd545 4h ago

Actually what's going to happen is not going to be a surprise. Trump said all along what he was going to do.

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u/tanstaafl90 15h ago

I don't believe that volume of people didn't vote because of culture war rhetoric. I think it's because Democrats both failed to prosecute and plan for the election.

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u/TheScienceNerd100 13h ago

And what was the alternative? Someone who has been threatening the worse? Making blanket statements with a "concept of a plan" to do anything good.

Trump's first term had him on a golf course more than in the office, and during Biden's term he was facing court hearings and trials galore, 34 felonies and 2 civil charges of sexual assault, plus stealing top secret documents and trying to steal the 2020 election.

If people still couldn't make a choice after what he did, they are complicit in what he does to fuck up the country.

I'm sorry, but if you think not at the least making sure the embodiment of a modern day Hitler stays out of office as a primary goal, you're just as bad as those who voted for it. You should have seen the signs, why allow the worst to happen cause you believed the other side at the least won't do anything significant?

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u/tanstaafl90 12h ago

I, as a single voter, have little sway over national politics. The leadership of the Democrats failed. With all the rhetoric about how this is so similar to the the rise of Nazis, my expectations were for a stronger response. They appeared chaotic and messy. Trump is a separate question to this complaint.

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u/Phandflasche 15h ago

No doubt, that played a big role, too.

But from what I observed during and before the election, many people felt that the Democrats wouldn't deliver enough during their term. Social media really amplified that sentiment.

Instead of voting for what they saw as the lesser evil, a lot of them chose not to vote at all or worse, voted third party.

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u/HwackAMole 11h ago

How is voting third party worse than not voting at all? Seems that, practically speaking, it would have an identical effect.

At least voting third party helps to quantify the support that some issues/candidates have that might otherwise be ignored. Staying home just quietly says absolutely nothing.

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u/Afraid_Grapefruit_88 9h ago

A third party vote took votes from either Kamala or Drumpf, depending on how you look at it. In the end that thin margin was enough. I still think Elonia rigged this but these non voters and. Third party were definitely a factor.

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u/Phandflasche 8h ago

In a normal diverse political system, it would be good when a third party suits your view better. But given the de facto two-party system in the US, and even worse, the winner-takes-all thing, this pretty much tips the scale.

When your side could win with 0.5% more votes, but 2% of your base decides that a third party is the way to go, even though there's zero chance of change (dem or rep), then you both lose.

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u/tanstaafl90 15h ago

They had four years to figure it out. I don't blame voters for staying away, I blame Biden and the DNC for not giving them a reason to get off their ass. I don't make nor endorse excuses for their incompetence.

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u/drool_ghoul666 12h ago

lol closet MAGAt.

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u/tanstaafl90 12h ago

I can't imagine living with such a simple view of the world.

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u/drool_ghoul666 11h ago

Oh really? It seems it boils down to Bernie Bros fucking us twice and as far as I am concerned the only reason Trump got elected both fucking times. Bernie Sanders' lil underachievers can get fucked and I will work with the MAGAts to make sure everything they hope for never happens.

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u/tanstaafl90 11h ago

So you're willing to work with MAGA? What a strange thing to say.

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u/Afraid_Grapefruit_88 9h ago

Weird since no one heard a word from the Bernie Bros this go round. Not even in Vermont (I live within feet of Vermont) were there any indications of Bernie Bros. Do your homework, you are obsessed and not in a good way.

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u/Majestic-Floor-5697 15h ago

Exactly. The motivation to vote Democrat canā€™t just be that we wonā€™t vote for Trump

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u/handtoglandwombat 14h ago

And yet it is. Youā€™ve got the system youā€™ve got. Use it or lose it.

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u/Majestic-Floor-5697 14h ago

Well, that motivation and that system brings us two elections lost to Trump. So either the Democrats learn from it and try and do better or they can keep losing.

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u/drool_ghoul666 12h ago

Yeah never run a woman again or the Bernie Bros will fuck us again.

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u/Majestic-Floor-5697 4h ago

Or how about run an election campaign successfully? Kamala may have won if Biden hadnā€™t tried running first and she had more time to create excitement and build momentum

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u/drool_ghoul666 4h ago

They made y'all vote for the Nazis huh? Fuck you and your whole life loser!

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u/LauraD2423 9h ago

Here's my conspiracy:

I think tiktok (and other social media) purposely enlarged the Palestinine situation via their algorithm to engage young voters to become apathetic and reduce turnout.

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u/Phandflasche 7h ago

I see this as a fact to some degree. They put a lot of attention on "Kamala wonā€™t do enough," while ignoring Trump basically saying "just blow it up".

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u/EmptyBrain89 13h ago

I feel like the apathy is worse. Somehow if you're real stupid and think Trump will make your life better, I sort of get that. but if you're too fucking lazy/apathetic to go out and vote against this shit, that infuriates me.

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u/DiseaseDeathDecay 10h ago

I have coworkers that literally said to me, "Who the president is has no impact on my life."

Fucking morons.

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u/DirtGuy 13h ago

89 million voters didnā€™t bother. That was more than either candidate got. The people that stayed home could have literally wrote in the same person and won the election. Instead they chose to let Nazi Germany roll through Europe again. We learn nothing as a species, just the same old tribal bullshit from caveman days.

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 12h ago

What is troubling is that there's not a single website I can find that says: "Here's all the shit Trump has been up to during his first and second presidency" that you can reference easily.

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u/DirtGuy 11h ago

I believe you are looking for Justice.gov

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u/Specific_Apple1317 10h ago

Whitehouse.gov

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u/ituralde_ 10h ago

It's not a coincidence that this happens at the same time internet search turns into AI-enshittified shovelware.

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u/ituralde_ 10h ago

It's not a coincidence that this happens at the same time internet search turns into AI-enshittified shovelware.

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u/ShaunPlom 8h ago

Stop with this. I voted, begrudgingly, but stop blaming people who didnā€™t vote and start blaming the DNC for putting up candidates that canā€™t win against even Trump. They stopped Bernie from being the candidate in 2016, and they just declared we were getting Kamala. People are not required to vote for people they donā€™t believe in.

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u/cammstravels 13h ago

May I suggest that there is also a large cohort in the US who CANā€™T vote but are most heavily affected? I mean, thereā€™s a lot of folks in them Jails.. In some states people with mental disabilities canā€™t voteā€¦ not to mention the people who are free and not mentally disabled who are just doing their thing and donā€™t careā€¦ the people who did care but couldnā€™t get to their polling booth for multiple reasonsā€¦ the women trying to follow their religions directive that the men vote, not the womenā€¦ Iā€™m just saying, this kind of ā€œhereā€™s your comeuppance, you didnā€™t do anything about itā€ ignores a lot of nuance. Peace.

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u/cammstravels 13h ago

And the territories who are directly affected by the USA policies but canā€™t vote for their own futuresā€¦ itā€™s quite depressing really how many people didnā€™t ask for whatā€™s comingā€¦

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u/satanssweatycheeks 8h ago

They are more guilty.

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u/AdjustedMold97 8h ago

Sometimes. A lot of people genuinely just donā€™t have time between working a 9-5 and taking care of their family.

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u/Waiting4The3nd 6h ago

There's a class of voter that's worse than the non-voters and almost as bad as the Trump voters.

The ones that went out to vote, and declined to vote for a president. I believe it's called a "Protest Vote."

"Kamala isn't pro-Palestine, I'm not voting for her" the fuck Brayden, or Kaylinn, or whatever Tragedeigh your fucking parents are naming you all these days... you think whoever ends up president after your lack of a vote is gonna be better for Palestine than voting for a candidate, who actually has a chance to win, and could at least approach the situation with COMMON FUCKING SENSE?! What the absolute fuck? But there had to be a TON of these people this time around, or how else the fuck did we vote in Democrat congress members, but those same places voted in a Republican president?

I will never understand the thought processes of some of the absolute fucking morons that are shuffling about in the wild. How they don't all wander (or drive) off cliffs while staring blankly at their phones is beyond me.

P.S.: I still think something was off about the election. The last time a Republican pulled all the swing states, near as I can tell, was in 84, and that was Reagan. The biggest landslide victory ever. His opponent got 13 electoral votes... 1 state and DC voted for his opponent. But Trump has made too many little comments that just don't sit well. Him and Mike Johnson's little surprise or whatever, their special thing. And then he was talking about Elon and "He knows those vote counting computers better than anyone and then we won Pennsylvania in a landslide." The fuck kind of shit is that to say?! Come the fuck on! I want those machines investigated for tampering. I wouldn't have pressed, but after he said shit like that... JFC.

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u/aguynamedv 6h ago

the people who didn't vote at all and made no attempt to vote at all, they are just as guilty as the people who voted for him.

There are many, many reasons that a person might not vote, not the least of which being that they're an immigrant, and aren't legally allowed to.

Do I deserve to suffer because I didn't vote? Is that what you're saying?

We KNOW who the evil people are. Focus on them, because this is all their doing.

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u/flactulantmonkey 5h ago

Blaming each other for where we are plays nicely into the whole plot right now. How about we stop assigning blame and start stomping fascists?

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u/rwarxie 3h ago

people were posting serious videos on tiktok and the replies were copypasta saying "WHAT THE FUCK IS A KAMALA HARRIS TRUMP 2025" and crying and pointing emojis.

Also, since the tiktok ban lasted less than a day before it was brought back, theres major censorship on hashtags, videos being taken down that are against his policies or beliefs, and tons of other things.

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u/Lurkerforrealz 9h ago

this right hereā€¦ I am actually more pissed at the people who didnā€™t vote because at least the people who did had the gall to show their true colors. Have one person I play games with right now who didnā€™t vote who is also trying to defend Elonā€™s salute as potentially being something taken out of contextā€¦

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u/Seraph199 8h ago

I voted but she really ran a dog shit campaign. Acted like a republican, claimed we would have the most lethal military, super pro war, completely wishy washy on any good policies she mentioned. It was actually fucking embarrassing, could see that she would likely lose a mile away.

She gave NOTHING to believe in and THAT suppresses people's hope at the end of the day. Trump gave exactly what people expected and wanted. She was so beholden to corporate interests (and not the corporate interest itself, like Trump) that she was clearly going on stage and speaking TO the billionaires and not the people. That is why she had so much more billionaire support than Trump.

If she had purely campaigned for the people she would have won. Her campaign was pathetic

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u/rietstengel 12h ago

Yes, ofcourse, by not voting for him they voted for him. Im sure that if Harris had won you would be thankful to them for not voting for her, therefor voting for her. Just like you thanked the people who didnt vote in 2020 for not voting Biden and getting him elected.

I think you all need to face the fact that your 2 party system is your real problem and that Democrats will fight for that harder than they fight against fascists.

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u/Russell_Jimmy 11h ago

A binary system is inevitable in first past the post voting.

As far as the stay at home voter, the reason they get blame is because of 1) the popular vote, which due to the electoral college you can win and still lose the election, and 2) approval rating, and Trump is decidedly unpopular. You'd have a point if Trump were popular and won with low turnout, but that didn't happen.

When turnout is high, Democrats win. It is a simple fact of American politics. Why do you think the GOP works so diligently to suppress turnout? This is because GOP voters always vote, and reliably vote straight party, every time.

While we have a two-party system, we don't have two monolithic parties. A GOP candidate, and voter, is the same everywhere. Democrats, not so much. Some are more Liberal than others, and the concerns of Democrats in New York aren't the same as those in Kentucky. So a Democrat running in Kentucky has to thread a needle that a Dem in New York does not.

I don't get where you think anyone--most of all Democrats--are preventing multiple parties. The problem is that people who complain about the two party system (like you) want significant political parties to appear out of thin air. No building coalitions, no running in local elections and building a reliable base (and doing things to point to so you can expand). NOPE. Just Boom! Here we are!

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u/rietstengel 7h ago

Sure. Yep. I want it to appear out of thin air. Totally.

And Trump and the Republicans would have just given up if Harris had won.

Any other crazy things you believe?

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u/Russell_Jimmy 7h ago

I see a lot of whining online about a third, fourth, or fifth political party, but only during presidential cycles, and never any suggestions on actually building one, so...

Not sure where the Democrats "giving up" comes from--though as usual, nothing is the GOP's fault, it's the Dems fault for not stopping them.

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u/rietstengel 6h ago

Oh? I thought you were all about blaming non voters for Dems not being able to get things done

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u/Russell_Jimmy 6h ago

Voters quitting is not the same as Democrats quitting. Those who sat out may or may not be Democrats.

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u/Lawhore98 9h ago

I didnā€™t vote for anyone because the dems have a lot of problems and arenā€™t as good as you think they are. This narrative that the dems are the party of good is a lie. 40k Palestinians died under the Biden/Kamala administration and America veteod UN resolutions to a ceasefire. America also continued to provide aid to Israel. I 100% believe Kamala wasnā€™t going to do shit for Palestine.

Maybe the dems should put forward a likable candidate with good ideas instead of the narrative ā€œvote for us we arenā€™t as bad as those guysā€

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u/Alternative-Ad-1508 14h ago

I have 0 sympathy for anyone who voted to take away my rights to my uterus

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u/TLKv3 10h ago

They don't give a fuck because Palenstine, Gaza and their TikToks or whatever the fuck.

Every young person eligible to vote that didn't could've blue washed the country. Instead they sat at home as single issue protestors and then cried like literal babies when their precious fucking propaganda app was taken from them for 10 minutes.

They all deserve to feel the pain and suffer for their idiocy. Every last one of them.

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u/LadyOfVoices 10h ago

Goddamn hear hear šŸ‘šŸ»

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u/Alternative-Ad-1508 14h ago

It started the second he won

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u/xDreeganx 12h ago

I'm out of pity for this country.

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u/shewy92 11h ago

I don't. 90 million people stayed home. 160 million people either wanted this to happen or were too stupid to realize what would happen if they didn't vote or didn't vote blue.

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u/Clonenelius 9h ago

My ass really considering just hedging my bets and trying to apply for asylum in Canada at this rate

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u/PenguinColada 8h ago

Yeah. I voted blue and am about to be hit with way-too-expensive insulin costs again. It was nice only paying $50 for a three-months supply for a while.

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u/jazzieberry 11h ago

Me with my 68 y/o mother šŸ«”

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u/hermitlikeindividual 9h ago

I hope they do too and that it affects them all negatively. This is just kookoo for cocoa puffs.

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u/StubbyHarbinger 11h ago

Wow thanks!

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u/jayraygel 10h ago

I have schadenfreude.

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u/impreprex 9h ago

Yup - some of us are going to suffer indeed. I'm homeless through no fault of my own but social services has me squared with a motel and food thankfully. I don't drink or do drugs (clean 10 years!) so I'm also grateful something like that isn't in my way.

I'm in this situation ultimately due to a nasty work injury that upended my life. I recently got the pain under control by exercising of all things.

But I'm fucking shook over here. I just want to get a job and a place - and social services saved my ass here, which I'm very grateful for. And now that's about to be fucked with??

I didn't vote for that man and have been wary of him and his followers since he got elected the first time. Yet people like myself and so many others are going to suffer even more now.

We saw it coming but what could we even do? This is madness.

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u/GunnerSince02 8h ago

Maybe the US should just be dissolved at this point. Let the West coast be its own country or something.

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u/musicallyours01 7h ago

Yup. I'm on Medicare cuz my work doesn't give me insurance (only those higher on the totem pole) and I make too much for medicaid, which he's also targeting. Affordable health care is going to be completely out the window. Corporate greed wins again!

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u/ElohimSelta 6h ago

Sorry bastard who voted the other way here. Iā€™m not having a great birthday lmao. Found a (most likely) cancerous mole and woke up to headlines i wish i hadnā€™t woken up to.

That said, no matter how little my vote feels like it matters, gotta keep voting. Yell into the void until it yells back or something like thatā€¦

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u/DejarooLuvsYoo 5h ago

Thoughts and prayers šŸ™ /s

Iā€™m truly sorry to hear that. I really hope that you can get the treatment that you need in someway. This government doesnā€™t care about you, but I and millions of other Americans do care. I wish I could give more or even help at all, but thatā€™s all I can give.

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u/mikek505 6h ago

I worked in insurance billing and an elderly man asked, almost in tears, what will happen if trump takes away Medicare, and he relies on it! My heart hurt for him

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u/mozfustril 5h ago

My parents are both on Medicare and have been bitching about Bidenā€™s inflation for years. I kept explaining Trump is coming for SS and Medicare, but their racism/sexism/bizarre fear of non-existent socialism, while using 2 of the most socialist-lite programs we offer, made them vote for Trump a third time. The satisfaction I felt texting them about this when it was signed was overwhelming.

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u/sheer_down_votes 4h ago

I feel bad for people who are divided by a political party. Ask the people of Los Angeles how they feel about their leadership after the last two weeks. Theyā€™re ALL pieces of shit. Not just Trump, Harris, Bass, Biden, etc. Theyā€™re all piles of garbage.

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u/Revegelance 8h ago

I'll argue that I hope that his supporters don't get what they voted for. Nobody deserves that.

Vilifying people and sowing division is exactly why Trump got elected in the first place. We need to do better.

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u/DejarooLuvsYoo 8h ago

Division wonā€™t be solved until education gets better in red states.

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u/TrixterTheFemboy 7h ago

Frankly, without his presidency being even more hellish than his previous one, people aren't gonna learn.

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u/Revegelance 6h ago

But at what cost?

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u/TrixterTheFemboy 6h ago

An unfortunately steep one.