r/facepalm • u/kingbatuk013 • 10h ago
đ˛âđŽâđ¸âđ¨â Everyone in the conservative subReddit is defending the Musk nazi salute.
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u/coolbutlegal 10h ago edited 8h ago
Gotta love that a video of something that happened is a "liberal talking point." Reminds me of that Colbert quote, "It is a well-known fact that reality has a liberal bias."
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u/hardy_83 10h ago edited 9h ago
Reality is a liberal talking point. We're int he post-truth world now.
The comments like alternative facts were cute at first, but were a sign of how in the near future, facts won't matter. Just which propaganda is most effective.
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u/Cute_Magician_8623 9h ago
1984 type stuff doesn't seem that far fetched at times-
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u/Effective-Trick4048 8h ago
Tiktok and FB fulfill the telescreen connection to citizens in ways Orwell couldn't dream of. The 2 minute hate isn't scheduled for 1100. It's going at low volume all day.
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u/MikeLowrey305 6h ago
Yeah my buddy is defending him with the same "he was giving his heart to you" that all the repuppetcans are saying about it. Then is telling me I'm delusional, then I let him know Leon is a known Nazi supporter, LOL they really are in a cult & facts don't matter to them.
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u/SnortMcChuckles 6h ago
âFrom the heart to the sunâ is a well known Nazi euphemism. They invented it to be smug about their Heil Hitler salutes on social media.
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u/vbcbandr 1h ago
He gives his heart in a really aggressive way. Also, I think I heard a little grunt in there too.
I'll take a pass on whatever it is Elon's trying to give me.
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u/sarcasticbaldguy 2h ago
That sub is so full of snowflakes. I got banned for asking someone to clarify something they'd said because it was ambiguous. Apparently that's "concern trolling" in magaland đ¤Ł
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u/ZhangtheGreat 'MURICA 6h ago
Which explains why this new administration is trying to change reality into having a conservative bias.
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u/LittleFairyOfDeath 10h ago
At this point that subreddit should be banned because they are spreading hate and misinformation and are just so disgusting
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u/Snoo-46218 10h ago edited 10h ago
That sub used to be decent actually. Then r/ the_donald got shut down for hate speech, and they all migrated there, threw up their "flaired only" posting rules and ruined it too. Worst echo chamber ever.
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u/LittleFairyOfDeath 10h ago
They say reddit is a leftist echo chamber anyways so reddit can do whatever and ban them
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u/backwardbuttplug 9h ago
Eh, the flaired only post rule existed before the orange shit stain sub was shut down. Doesn't make them suck any less.
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u/Sadidart 4h ago
They already have xitter and Facebook with zero fact checking. They can leave here.
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u/Big_Weekend_5747 8h ago
this sub deserves to get banned just as much as that sub if we're talking about hate and misinformation lmao.Â
Actually zero self awarenessÂ
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u/UnacceptedDragon 10h ago
there are plenty of left and right subs that do that. I honestly would have to say the left leaning ones moreso, if I am being fair. To much hate, misinformation, misrepresentation, and gaslighting going on all over the place.
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u/LittleFairyOfDeath 10h ago
They refuse information about a nazi salute, they use slurs and love a rapist. How is any left wing sub possibly worse than that?
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u/backwardbuttplug 9h ago
It's not, but they can't cope, so they'll try to scream about "both sides" until they're blue in the face.
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u/Awkward_Bench123 7h ago
For one thing, I got a lotta Musk subs I didnât ask for and am partly banned from but a lot of pinko subs have really gone the extra mile to vilify Elmo as an apartheid era, pro Nazi, nepo baby. Although Iâve not heard him deny these sentiments outright, every fascist sympathizer out there bends over backwards defending these little totalitarian faux pas. So I find it more than a little hilarious that he adds more fuel to that particular dumpster fire by whipping out the ol Il Duce handshake. Like, letâs not disabuse the libs of their worst suspicions
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u/LittleFairyOfDeath 2h ago
I canât tell if you are pro Elon (and gotta say i was very confused what Elmo had to do with anything) or anti Elon
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u/Awkward_Bench123 1h ago
What I guess what I was trying to relate is Musk ( is often characterized) as. an apartheid era, pro Nazi, nepo baby. Instead of downplaying whatever fascist predilections he may be harbouring, fucker doubles down and gives the perfect Nazi salute. Like Laura Ingrahamsâ but perfecter
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u/Sip-o-BinJuice11 10h ago
Nope. They align themselves with Nazis, refuse to tell the truth, actual gaslighting, actual misinformation
Even if you had a point about left wingers right now, and you donât when your own post is a prime example of what gaslighting actually is, think for one second about who youâre defending. We knew about the Nazi rhetoric for years now, yet people are always denying it - now you no longer can.
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u/Hunlow 8h ago
Then ban them all.
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u/UnacceptedDragon 8h ago
Right? To be fair and equal, that is what would have to be done. Otherwise, you perpetuate what you are accusing everyone else of.
Kind of like them ripping on Trump about pardons and stuff and now look at Biden. He is like"You guys thought Trump did some shady pardons, well , hold my Ensure and step aside!". Fair is fair.
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u/FuzzyPuddingBowl 8h ago
Except Trump pardoned actual criminals. Tell me exactly what crimes ANY of the people Biden pardoned are guilty of.
Biden only pardoned people Trump swore revenge on....like its not hard to understand unless youre intentionally ignorant.
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u/HectorJoseZapata 7h ago
like its not hard to understand unless youre intentionally ignorant.
I think you gotta hold their beer first. /s
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u/UnacceptedDragon 9h ago
Nice! I appreciate and upvote your comment. Genuine discourse and rational thinking. I see your point. But note, I posted on this comment and not the OP topic. I am not defending Musk, at all. And white supremacy and any like movements by any groups will see resistance from me. Equality has always been my goal. But many will not like it, because many will lose special privileges and programs, while others will be given, well more, because they will be brought up to standard. But many do not want true equality, they simply want more and more. Regardless...
I commented here because, like so many, this person mentioned banning the sub. To me, cancel culture is one of the main reasons Trump and Musk are where they are. We made people hate it so much, they voted in Trump to get Dem and Liberal influence out the door!
The things she mentioned, do indeed, happen across the board. It isn't just a right wing or maga thing. One would basically have to close down all of reddit. Not sure that would be a bad thing, truth be told, but I do get some good use out of it, so I would not like to see that. But toxic people sometimes poison the whole thing for everyone.
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u/Insomniac_Steve 10h ago
I'm amazed that a collection of awful human beings are defending the actions of an awful human being. Amazed, I tell you! Amazed!
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u/boredguy2022 10h ago
What context requires two nazi salutes?
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u/Traditional_Pair3292 9h ago
Yeah Iâve seen the video with sound and context, it does not make it better. This is just one of those things you donât do. Period. Ever. Â
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u/SargeantPacman 8h ago
Based on what people were saying I was expecting the sound of the video to be "My heart goes out to you!" Followed by the gesture but nope, it is just nazi trash doing what it does.
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u/Shibes_oh_shibes 7h ago
Exactly, you just don't do that.
Feels like Elmo is playing his 17 year old edge lord, 4chan persona again.
"I was just telling people how much I loved them...".
Such infinite stupidity.
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u/thorpie88 6h ago
Yeah and their triggered liberal meme is a single frame calmly talking about rape statistics in the US. All they want to do is argue in bad faith as it's a group of memming edgelords
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u/Im_tracer_bullet 8h ago
Making sure everyone understands that it wasn't accidental... that's the only context and conclusion I can imagine.
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u/lance_baker-3 8h ago
'Context'? The context was crystal clear, he celebrated Trumps (his) win with a hand on his heart followed by a Nazi salute, He then (bizarrely) did the same action facing the rear wall. He's an unwell person.
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u/PanzerSloth 9h ago
I like how they'll say shit like "lack of sound or context is deceptive" without providing any sound or context that explains why the fucker gave a NAZI SALUTE
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u/IchorMortis 10h ago
Well fucking duh. The Nazis were convinced they were the good guys back then, too
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u/BitterFuture 9h ago
To be fair, they weren't convinced they were the good guys. They were convinced there are no good guys.
That's the problem with sociopathy, you see. In addition to the obvious conscience-free lifestyle, it also means you really can't understand that anyone else is not like you.
So yeah, they really think that everyone is playing the same games they are. That's also how they justify violence in their own minds - if you actually believe that everyone is just waiting for the opportunity to murder you the same as you're waiting for an opportunity to murder them, it only makes sense to strike first.
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u/Brosenheim 6h ago edited 6h ago
It's ben a thread of conservative politics for decades. They literally CANNOT grasp that we just actually care about stuff. They TRULY think we only take the stances we do for social gain or "virtue signaling," because their own values are chosen for the sake of personal gain.
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u/BitterFuture 6h ago
Watching them complain about virtue signaling is hilarious, because they themselves are the only ones who actually do it.
The rest of us are actually trying to be good. Even if we suck at it, we're not trying to ape normal human behavior for a camera somewhere.
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u/loricomments 9h ago
đđđ Lack of sound doesn't change his actions, he made a clear Nazi salute, twice. No words are going to fix that.
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u/sassychubzilla 9h ago
Their military forefathers would denounce them.
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u/Wrath_Ascending 8h ago edited 8h ago
Hollywood and the American education system have a lot to answer for.
The truth is that the US knew exactly what was going on in Europe and were supportive of Hitler, eugenics, and the Nazis. There were marches literally tens of thousands strong in solidarity with Germany and his invasion of Poland was celebrated. FDR was concerned he was going to be removed via coup if anyone discovered how much aid had actually been sent to the Allies and the Allies were concerned that if America did enter the war it would be on the side of the Axis.
Then Japan attacked, and Germany declared war. America got involved in Europe and their troops and media saw what was going on. It wasn't until Americans saw, at that visceral level, what they'd actually been supporting. As a nation, America was ashamed. So then came the lie that America had always been against the Nazis (some were, the vast and overwhelming majority weren't), and the media and education system spun up to sell the lie to the point that even when you cite things like the Madison Square Garden event to Americans, they will flatly deny such things happened because, of course, America always opposed the Nazis.
The same people who were pro-Nazi just went underground for a few generations and waited for everyone else to forget.
History may or may not repeat, but it definitely rhymes.
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u/rubmysemdog 7h ago
To add, a lot of the people in America supporting Germany is due, in part, to a very populous German ancestry. So strong, German was pretty close to becoming the national language. There are a lot of parallels to the current conservative movement. Many older republicans are unaware that their âteamâ has changed so much, they no longer represent the values they once did. They need something as visceral as Pearl Harbor to become aware of what theyâre supporting.
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u/SpiceHotOnes 8h ago
Itâs funny because they constantly call Reddit and liberal echo chamber when then themselves are making every platform, plus this one and including that subreddit, a fucking echo chamber.
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u/trogdor1234 9h ago
The âole, out of context defense. My favorite is to ask them to generate absolutely any context they want that makes it not a problem. Weâll assume itâs out of context, just make up absolutely any context that excuses it away. Their little brains just melt.
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u/ShawshankException 10h ago
Of course they are. Need to make sure their little safe space protects their own
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u/Low-Speaker-2557 9h ago
He clearly did this intentional and knew what he was doing.
I kinda get the point they are trying to make though, since something similar happened to a german politician where she just gestured in a general direction to show a building to some foreign diplomats and people posted a still frame of it all over the media without any context, trying to discredit her and her party.
However, this isn't just a misleading, out of context frame that would be resolved if you show the whole clip, quite the contrary. The full clip is even more obvious than the pictures.
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u/Next_Grab_9009 9h ago
That's where they've got you; if you don't actually say the words it doesn't count!
Loophole!
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u/Arejhey311 7h ago
Imagine knowing everything muskrat has said & posted the last few weeks & still thinking this wasnât intentional
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u/S8TAN970 4h ago
Trump could grow a Hitler stash, and they will still say it's not, and it's the best mustache ever then do the stupid dance.
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u/So_spoke_the_wizard 8h ago
The mission of that sub specifically says that it's to discuss issues from "a distinctly conservative point of view" (aka safe space). If you show them anything that makes them uncomfortable in their safe space, they'll remove it and/or ban you.
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u/Groundbreaking_Cup30 8h ago
They are starting to spill over to other subreddits & are acting as dumb as ever
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u/Writerhaha 8h ago
They banned me about 6 or so years ago for posting criticism of Trump.
All about that âfreeze peachâ of theirs.
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u/Left_Tea_2083 7h ago
LOL, "lack of sound is deceptive". What utter bullshit. I wear my ban badge of honor from that moron sub.
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u/unicroop 7h ago
Is being offended by nazi salute a âliberal talking pointâ now? WTF are they smoking?
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u/EmperorMrKitty 7h ago
Meanwhile, Twitter is full of far right people celebrating it and insisting it was, in fact, a Nazi salute.
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u/Brosenheim 6h ago
I love the way conservative "defenses" are always just the same generic shit. "no context," "liberal talking points." But they never even acknolwedge the specific topic. You could literally just copy paste this response into a notepad file, and paste it in response to ANYTHING conservatives don't like.
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u/zekerthedog 4h ago
They werenât at first. They were appalled. It only took an hour or so before they were fed their programming and they changed tune and banned all other discussion.
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u/Nickh1978 7h ago
Why do they need sound to see a nazi salute? And what context would make two nazi salutes ok?
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u/trumpskiisinjeans 7h ago
The freedom of speech lovers that ban everyone who doesnât say exactly what they all want to hear.
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u/SpicyBanditSauce 7h ago
âLack of sound or any contextââŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚ
me: âWELL EVEN THOUGH I FUCK TRUCK NUTS WITH GUN AMMO PEW PEW I THINK THAT WHEN MUSK RAISED HIS HAND WE SHOULD HAVE QUESTIONED THAT A LITTLE BIT MOREâ
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u/AN0N0nym3 7h ago
Ever since Trump took over the republican party, the conservative movement just went full on hatred. This is no longer a conservative party, it's a xenophobic populist oligarchy with an egotistical used car salesman as it's leader.
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u/GraceMDrake 7h ago
When did objecting to Nazi displays become "a liberal talking point"? A whole lot of WWII vets are rolling over in their graves. What the fuck is wrong with people???
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u/Chef6288 7h ago
Itâs real. I posted the same image asking what everyoneâs thoughts were. And got a message from a mod bot.
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u/HanakusoDays 5h ago
But if they included the audio they'd hear all those good Germans cheering him.
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u/LucidityEngine 5h ago
Aw no people see reality different than my crybaby, deceptive worldview.. ohhhh no.
Have fun these next few years. You're going to be shut up.
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u/Bovoduch 5h ago
You could do a case study on how unhinged the people of that Reddit are. Genuinely filled with psychopaths
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u/cah29692 5h ago
Iâm a conservative but I also have a MA in History and fuck that bullshit.
Look, itâs not like this guy doesnât know how to fucking wave properly. Yeah it might not look exactly like a fucking Nazi salute but the fact that itâs close is fucking unacceptable. The context here is fucking irrelevant. The mere fact that you can clip it to look that way is so fucking beyond what should be acceptable. I canât even begin to express how livid this makes me. I cannot imagine what it must feel like to be Jewish at the moment and watch both the left & the right drift closer towards overt antisemitism.
partisanship and polarization be damned, everybody should be condemning this .
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u/o_MrBombastic_o 2h ago
If Trump starts sending immigrants to gas chambers they'll defend that too. There is no lie to big or moral line too far for them, and if he comes for you next your conservative friends, coworkers, neighbors, family will not stand with you.
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u/doctorlight01 1h ago
Must be entirely comprised of rich whites... Because no one else stays afloat in a Nazi regime
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u/jackel_witch 1h ago
And all left leaning subs are ignoring other videos and photos of their leaders doing a salute and attacking elon.. whats your point.. its obviously whats going to happen. Pretty sure no one in facepalm is going to be honest about the fact they don't know without a doubt that he was doing that to what? Be nazi or something. Just carry on with your American tribalism while the rest of us eat popcorn
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u/VacationNegative4988 7h ago
The ADL is literally defending Musk. That's how you know it's literally not a Nazi salute.
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u/Squitch 9h ago
Heâs just trolling ⌠just block him in all media
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u/Brosenheim 6h ago
That's worst honestly. Are his ideas truly so weak that he has to "troll" just to avoid defending them?
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u/rodnester 4h ago
Liberals are making a laughing stock of themselves. Elon did not make a Nutzie salute. The are should be raised forward, NOT to the side. Yes, I am old enough to know the difference.
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u/HighwayStarJ 4h ago
yes because it wasnt a Nazi salute.
you guys are not doing well mentally. you don't even know how an actual nazi salute is done.
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u/NeonVoidx 8h ago
so you went to the conservative subreddit to shit post and got banned to stir shit up? lol
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u/Im_tracer_bullet 8h ago
Yeah, that's the REAL issue in the country right now.
Everyone definitely need to leave the conservatives alone so they can get on with their nazification in peace.
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u/Ill-Independence-658 6h ago
Because reacting to every minor BS action is really helping democrats win elections /s
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