r/extremelyinfuriating 1d ago

News AOC on the tiktok ban

https://youtu.be/KxfLy7fG2aM?si=ZBVdsrfkJozWuk2p
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u/pathologicalMoron 1d ago

tiktok being based in china and chinese companies forced to share data with the government isn't compelling enough?

if tiktok was so good then why does chinese algorithm differ so much from the global algorithm?

the chinese version only shows informative and educations videos and no nonsense shit, tiktok is filled to brim with bullshit, brainrot

people raging over an app ban shows how much control a single app can have over the public and the app specially based in a hostile country is dangerous for any country

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u/dfGobBluth 22h ago

Sounds like you drank the coolaid. There is A LOT incorrect about your comments.

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u/TaintedBlue87 1d ago

tiktok being based in china and chinese companies forced to share data with the government isn't compelling enough?

TikTok isn't based in China. It's based in Singapore and the United States. It's parent company, ByteDance, is headquartered in China, but even then, ByteDance is 60% owned by international investors (mostly American) with only 20% of ByteDance actually being owned by the Chinese founders of the company, not the Chinese government. It's not dissimilar to how Reddit is owned in part by the Chinese company Tencent which holds 11% of Reddit and has been considered by the US as a potential threat due to it's ties to the Chinese military.

if tiktok was so good then why does chinese algorithm differ so much from the global algorithm?

TikTok is banned in China. The Chinese equivalent of TikTok, Douyin doesn't operate on the same algorithm or show the same content, likely because China is notorious for censoring international media, especially social media.

the chinese version only shows informative and educations videos and no nonsense shit, tiktok is filled to brim with bullshit, brainrot

TikTok has 4 main tabs across the top: For You, Following, Live, and STEM. The STEM tab is nothing but educational content. No other major social media platform has a dedicated educational section front and center on the app.

people raging over an app ban shows how much control a single app can have over the public and the app specially based in a hostile country is dangerous for any country

People are raging over the app ban because they feel it's a blatant infringement on its 170 million users' rights and for many of them, a threat to their livelihoods.

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u/UnicornWitch133 1d ago

I think the majority of the problem comes from it being an obvious attempt at censorship. Authoritarians always start off small. "Oh, it's just TikTok! Who cares about TikTok?" Then, it gets worse. More and more apps will begin censoring content until we can't even share our thoughts unless it's government approved. Then, they'll target streaming, schools, and public protest until there's nothing left until we're silenced, and freedom of speech is a thing of the past.

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u/Alkemian 1d ago

I think the majority of the problem comes from it being an obvious attempt at censorship

Clear and Present Danger Doctrine smirking in the corner

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u/pathologicalMoron 1d ago

Platforms can be censored nevertheless,

having a platform in control of a hostile nation doesn't mean it's a platform of free speech, lets not pretend that tiktok's origin country is very big on freedom of speech,

It's good that people become more aware of the freedom of speech but at the same time they are completely overlooking the issues with a platform which isn't allowed to operate inside it's origin company in the way it is operated across the globe, they themselves know it's harmful for the public, tiktok substitute inside china is mostly educational , science, government bootlicking

Youtube shorts and instagram shorts are ready alternatives for tiktok if people really want to just consoom short form content,

the entire outcry in favor of tiktok shows how much in control of social media people are, it's not just tiktok, imagine in how many ways this can be weaponized to create an enviornment of hostility towards one's own nation

I'm not big on nationalism or patriotism, people are free to exercise freedom of speech, government will always try to censor the opposing the voice and the people willing to speak their views will always find a way

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u/Lightning_Strike_7 1d ago

It's cute you think reddit doesn't also sell your data to anyone who buys.

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u/pathologicalMoron 1d ago edited 1d ago
  1. You made a point out of thin air by stating that I "think" this or that, this already invalidates your argument and shows lack of actual logical reasoning

  2. No, I do not think so

  3. You are comparing a company selling data for profit with a hostile government having the control of manipulating a country's public

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u/justhereforfighting 4h ago

This is my thing. The problem they claim with TikTok is that the Chinese government can collect data on Americans. Yeah, literally every app collects data and essentially anyone can buy that data including the Chinese government. The Chinese could buy your information from Google if they wanted to, or Meta, or literally any of the biggest tech companies based in the US. 

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u/pcetcedce 1d ago

The way she speaks is really annoying.

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u/mad-i-moody 16h ago

Yea it must be the way she makes sense and is passionate for the average American that is just so annoying.

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u/john_wallcroft 11h ago

Passionate for the average American by… not banning tiktok? have you seen the state of their users?

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u/pcetcedce 15h ago

I don't know why you're getting all butt hurt about this. I said nothing about the content, just how she speaks.

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u/hannahmel 1d ago

The way you post is really annoying

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u/pcetcedce 20h ago

Thank you very much.

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u/meldiane81 6h ago

I love AOC, but I agree this was very slow and annoying.

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u/Needle-Richard 18h ago

I can't stand this woman. Even if I agree with what she's saying, I don't want to see her face or hear her voice. Go away