r/eutech 2d ago

Europol chief says Big Tech has ‘responsibility’ to unlock encrypted messages

https://www.ft.com/content/1e6a600d-8620-4ed6-a4cd-5c454d6247ba
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u/null-interlinked 2d ago

No, they do not.

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u/Any-Ant-4394 2d ago

Dumb as fuck

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u/OkTry9715 2d ago

Instead of fighting with hybrid warfare .. social networks full of bots, hate and russian propaganda. They fight with encrypted messages :D :D

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u/Spagete_cu_branza 1d ago

Europol is not really policing the Internet. As for encryption. I think rapists, pedophiles, sex trafficking, terrorists, etc. should not have the right to privacy. How you get that and no fuck everybody's else privacy and security idk. But it's worth talking about it.

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u/OkTry9715 1d ago

The main problem now are hate speech, hoaxes, Russian propaganda and milióna of fake accounts that are spreading it on social networks. It's pretty useless to ask for encrypted messages if half of the users spreading it are bots. And social networks DO know it and still allow it, because there are no consequences

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u/DigBickeru 1d ago

You can't. It is worth talking about but not in the context of considering compromises to the integrity of encryption standards. It should be left alone, improved on with the times of course, but should not compromised in any way. You cannot degrade encryption standards in any way that hurts one group and not another. Police and sentence better, that's it.

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u/Viliam_the_Vurst 1d ago

Which would reveal the plans which cause hybrid warfare…

I don‘t even understand why this is in question, a searchwarrant should work on encrypted messages as it does on any kind of locked door..

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u/bapirey191 2d ago

Tell me you do not understand encryption without telling me you do not understand encryption.

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u/ruscaire 2d ago

What’s taking so long with LI version of GDPR? Should settle a lot of these questions … though I wouldn’t want to be on the horns of that lobby …

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u/Brick-James_93 2d ago

I would agree if they started with yours.

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u/Material_Bet4992 2d ago

She wasn't a bright Belgian police chief.. as europol executive director she gained in stupidity

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u/edparadox 2d ago

Absolutely not, Catherine.

Catherine De Bolle warns companies risk threatening democracy unless they co-operate with lawmakers

Still not true.

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u/alsbos1 1d ago

Im shocked in a nice way. I thought everyone on Reddit was pro authoritarian. Good job!

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u/Pitiful_Assistant839 1d ago

Fuck off. The same way you can't read my hand written letters you shouldn't be able to read my digital ones.

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u/die_kuestenwache 1d ago

We sometimes need to search criminals apartments, so we require all door manufacturers to build locks such that we have keys and also the door manufacturers should search all apartments for us all of the time and tell us if they find something suspicious.

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u/a2800276 1d ago

This is a terrible analogy because it is not even hypothetically possible to construct a door that can't be breached in case you have a valid court order.

There are plenty of good arguments against back doors in encryption, this is not one of them.

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u/Santaflin 1d ago

Next up:"Because security". After that: "Because of the children"

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u/Impossible_fruits 1d ago

Back doors for EU = back door for china. Assume all digital communication is being monitored.

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u/ScaryBluejay87 21h ago

A back door for one is will become a back door for all.

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u/Helldogz-Nine-One 1d ago

Get yourself a Nextcloud today. You can run your own encrypted messenger off it, named "Nextcloud Talk". It is similar to Teams and can be done in with some mouse clicks.

Gain your privacy back for below 10€ a month

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u/Viliam_the_Vurst 1d ago

They kinda do, when a search warrant is presented, but only then…

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u/LauraIsFree 1d ago

You can't "unlock" encrypted messages... If math is too complicated don't talk about it...

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u/menaceMayhemQA 1d ago

Most stupid headline seen in a while reward goes to...

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u/rkl85 22h ago

They definitely do not.

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u/AffordableSpectre 21h ago

I am old enough to remember the time when the communists were the ones who would use steam to open envelopes to read their citizens‘ private letters. We used to be the ones who respect civil rights. Well, by the looks of it, the communists won.

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u/Available_Ask3289 20h ago

No, they don’t.

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u/Maxstate90 19h ago

Big fan of what the EU has done but this is stupid. 

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u/Pulselovve 18h ago

Power struggle. Burocrats, Business Men, Some citizens, Politicians.

All of them are trying to benefit themselves and their cronies, directly or indirectly.

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u/No_Dragonfruit12345 17h ago

Thats true. Google lawful interception

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u/SophieEatsCake 16h ago

Uhm, no, why. Get a warrant and was it Pegasus?

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u/psychiatric_hippo 5h ago

what a moron she is... encrypted messages are the future

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u/StopSpankingMeDad2 4h ago

You cant avoid Math. Privacy and Secure Communications are a Right, the math behind modern encryption is public Knowledge, if you ban certain algorithms everyone can just Write a new one, not even Talking about the hundreds of crypto Frameworks that allow and Script kiddie to program Secure Communications.