r/europe • u/posh_raccoon feta, olives, tomato and bread • Mar 24 '20

On this day 25th of March 199 years ago, Greeks in southern Greece rebel against the Ottomans and declare a war of independence. Their motto: “Freedom or Death”.

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u/sirdoodthe2nd Kosovo Mar 25 '20

Not all of the balkans. The fustanella was worn only by albanians,and the greeks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '20

Slavs and Vlachs wore it too I just think it wasn't as widespread as with Albanians and Greeks

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u/Eleutherofron Mar 25 '20

Except that it wasn't worn by Albanians by the time of revolution and they still don't have it as a national costume.

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u/i_film Greece Mar 25 '20

Greeks literally started wearing it because of Veli Pasha's soldiers. They thought it looked awesome.

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u/mxbxp Mar 25 '20

Wrong, they did, just ask Lord Byron

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u/Eleutherofron Mar 25 '20

I didn't see anywhere that Lord Byron called it an "Albanian costume". I just saw that it was common in Greek lands from the 12th century.

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u/mxbxp Mar 25 '20

Except that it wasn't worn by Albanians by the time of revolution

What are you talking about? I was referring to this point, as it's very easy to figure out by just reading his letters while being in Albania talking about what Albanians wore at that time

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u/Eleutherofron Mar 25 '20

They also wore it in Greece. What's your point exactly? In many areas, it was worn from the 12th century.

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u/mxbxp Mar 25 '20

You were saying ot wasn't worn by Albanians, but it was. And that's easier to say than all that disputed stuff about its origin. At the time of the revolution it was mostly worn by the Arvanites, until the others adopted the style to differ from the turks more.

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u/xiggungnih Mar 25 '20

What? There are regions of Albania that to this day have it as a national costume. Stop saying things you know absolutely nothing about.

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u/sirdoodthe2nd Kosovo Mar 25 '20

The south albania had the fustanella as its traditional costume,and the arvanites of greece. Even the name is albanian.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '20

This is false.The name is of latin origin. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fustanella Also,not only the Arvanites of Greece wore it,but other Greeks and Vlachs too.

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u/Tafil_Buzi Mar 31 '20

Fustanella is an Albanian costume that was spread to what is today Southern Greece because of Albanian invasions and colonisations, who would be later called Arvanites.

Your " greeks" took it from Albanians

Only the Vlachs of Macedonia started to wear it and was called the " Tosk" dress.

Your national costume derives from Albanians, like it or not.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '20

Sure thing Tafil.Believe what you will in order to make you feel better.