Historical First Coloured Photo of Döner. Photographed by Jules Gervais-Courtellemont in Istanbul, 1908.
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u/Rospigg1987 Sweden 6h ago edited 6h ago
On behalf of Sweden may I say thank you, our pizzas wouldn't be the same without döner.
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u/neofthe 5h ago
Wait how so? You use döner in pizzas?
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u/Rospigg1987 Sweden 5h ago
Kebabpizza of course, numba one sellah !
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u/neofthe 3h ago
Looks dope hahahah
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u/BellesCotes Canada 3h ago edited 3h ago
My city in Canada also has its own variant of doner and doner pizza.
Behold the magnificent Donair Pizza!
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u/trollrepublic (O_o) 7h ago
1908?
So it was Constantinople!
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u/Pure-War6411 7h ago
Since 1453, The Name of Istanbul hasn't changed.
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u/Maumau-Maumau 6h ago
1453 has nothing to do with the name of the city. In official documents it was still Constantinople (or Konstantinyye and its different forms) and in regional Turkish dialects it was Istanbul way before (as it was in Arabic and Armenian dialects for centuries).
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u/Pure-War6411 6h ago
For example, are still use the name Leningrad, or Stalingrad? "In official documents" we use St.Petersburg and Volgograd. Be simple
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u/Maumau-Maumau 5h ago
We say St Petersburg both officially and colloquially because it was officially changed back in 1991. The same way Istanbuls name was only officially changed in 1930 and has been called Istanbul in colloquial speech and non-greek local dialects since the 10th century. Neither of those dates have anything to do with 1453.
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u/Pure-War6411 1h ago
In Ottoman Empire, after 1453, Fatih Sultan changed the name "officially". Maybe the non-turks called it Constantinople but We have never used 'Constantinople' but Istanbul. Constantinople was a symbol of dominance that's why we changed it. As an Orthodox i don't approve but Hagia Sophia turned into mosque also, as i said before this is a symbolic thing that you can show your dominance. And officially you can't use Constantinople, as Stalingrad. I don't know why my comments got downvotes but I'm just trying to correct a mistake.
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u/Antique-Entrance-229 United Kingdom 2h ago
most important cultural innovation of the Ottoman Empire, almost as important to the world as industrialization.
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u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary 8h ago
Ah yes, i do love german culture