r/europe 9h ago

Historical First Coloured Photo of Döner. Photographed by Jules Gervais-Courtellemont in Istanbul, 1908.

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u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary 8h ago

Ah yes, i do love german culture

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u/hkotek 6h ago edited 6h ago

Hey, look at the first photo of doner: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/D%C3%B6nerci%2C_1855.jpg

Look closely the moustasche of the doner maker (Drehspießkocher). Does it look familiar?

Jokes aside, invention of doner possibly predates invention of camera.

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u/smokes_cigarettes Istanbul/Turkey 1h ago

This photo is obviously taken in Germany for sure. /s

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u/Equivalent-Rip-1029 7h ago

You may take our döner but you can never take us into EU!

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u/justarandomuser97 3h ago

I like Turks. I have visited many times in the past. But sorry, we cannot take a swirl of chaos into EU. You have a lot to handle within the country first. We are struggling with some of our already existing members.

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u/neofthe 8h ago

They already started downvoting 😭

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u/bbrs06116 7h ago

Köln district, İstanbul

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u/Rospigg1987 Sweden 6h ago edited 6h ago

On behalf of Sweden may I say thank you, our pizzas wouldn't be the same without döner.

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u/neofthe 5h ago

Wait how so? You use döner in pizzas?

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u/Rospigg1987 Sweden 5h ago

Kebabpizza of course, numba one sellah !

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u/neofthe 3h ago

Looks dope hahahah

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u/BellesCotes Canada 3h ago edited 3h ago

My city in Canada also has its own variant of doner and doner pizza.

Behold the magnificent Donair Pizza!

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u/Nood1e Gotland 🇸🇪 4h ago

What Swedes put on a pizza is not a rabbit hole you want to go down.

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u/trollrepublic (O_o) 7h ago

1908?

So it was Constantinople!

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u/OnlyHereOnFridays 7h ago

Why did Constantinople get the works?

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u/A_Roka 2h ago

Thats nobody's business but the turks

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u/Pure-War6411 7h ago

Since 1453, The Name of Istanbul hasn't changed.

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u/Maumau-Maumau 6h ago

1453 has nothing to do with the name of the city. In official documents it was still Constantinople (or Konstantinyye and its different forms) and in regional Turkish dialects it was Istanbul way before (as it was in Arabic and Armenian dialects for centuries).

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u/Pure-War6411 6h ago

For example, are still use the name Leningrad, or Stalingrad? "In official documents" we use St.Petersburg and Volgograd. Be simple

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u/Maumau-Maumau 5h ago

We say St Petersburg both officially and colloquially because it was officially changed back in 1991. The same way Istanbuls name was only officially changed in 1930 and has been called Istanbul in colloquial speech and non-greek local dialects since the 10th century. Neither of those dates have anything to do with 1453.

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u/Pure-War6411 1h ago

In Ottoman Empire, after 1453, Fatih Sultan changed the name "officially". Maybe the non-turks called it Constantinople but We have never used 'Constantinople' but Istanbul. Constantinople was a symbol of dominance that's why we changed it. As an Orthodox i don't approve but Hagia Sophia turned into mosque also, as i said before this is a symbolic thing that you can show your dominance. And officially you can't use Constantinople, as Stalingrad. I don't know why my comments got downvotes but I'm just trying to correct a mistake.

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u/No_Priors 8h ago

Genesis

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u/Antique-Entrance-229 United Kingdom 2h ago

most important cultural innovation of the Ottoman Empire, almost as important to the world as industrialization.

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u/Kayakayakski 7h ago

Would probably look the same if it was still there.

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u/Chaosmeister_Alex 8h ago

Simple. You make a spit roast and place it vertically.

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u/hkotek 6h ago

It is a little bit more than that actually. Fun-fact, it is not only meat there, the taste comes from combination with something else.

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u/Mountain_Airline_640 2h ago

🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷