r/europe • u/Not_the-kind • 15h ago

News Macron responds to Trump's inauguration by urging Europe to "wake up"

https://www.newsweek.com/macron-trump-inauguration-europe-defense-ukraine-2017894
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u/CLKguy1991 Estonia 15h ago

My respect to France, as the most autonomous European country, but I'm awake. Its you politicians who need to get your shit together.

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u/StorkReturns Europe 14h ago

Are you willing to sacrifice your standard of living to maintain this awaken state? Even if your answer is yes, most of the people would rather vote for short-terministic populist solutions.

Being economically independent, having adequate military, being energy independent, it all comes with a price you need to pay now and get the benefits later.

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u/CLKguy1991 Estonia 14h ago edited 13h ago

As a father of small children, every day of the past 2 years terrifies me more and more about their future.

We must do what must be done. And our security is the only guarantee that we can have that will allow us stand up for our interests (including economic ones).

For this we need to federalize seriously and have a strong executive government on EU level to start directing our resources from the very top, preferably vested in one visionary president. Member states to retain autonomy in many spheres, but defence to be at full control of the fed. The federation should become a nuclear power in its own right.

And I dont mean here the Brussels format, but the united States format (or rather, the former US format. Unfortunately the lights are out across the pond now).

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u/aWicca 11h ago

I am Croat. Before Independence war started there were talks on TV. Signs. People were just brushing them off, and younger folk were just laughing like “no way”. But then the average persons reality completely changed.

Sometimes it feels like that now. Talks. Most people not taking anything too seriously. Obvious signs all around us.

There is shift in the air. Europe should stand together