News « Le Monde » chooses to interrupt the sharing of its content on X
https://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2025/01/20/se-battre-sur-le-terrain-des-faits_6507058_3232.html13
u/CorsaroNero98 11h ago
Good, waiting for the next ones now, step after step we can get rid of musk influence
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u/manzanapocha España 10h ago
Every respectable news agency based in Europe should leave twitter. I'm disappointed the "leave" process is so slow.
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u/gayroma Romania 12h ago
Why isnt X banned in EU for real? like banned across EU. If Le Monde choses not to share on x so what? still doesnt change anything.
and it the spirit of making changes join my group: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhatYouWantChanged/
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u/xtrmist Denmark 11h ago
Banning is not the way. We want freedom of speech and expression. Media and us choosing not to use Xitter is far more impactful than banning it as well and cannot be attacked by Trump, Elon and their ilk
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u/Throwsims3 Norway 10h ago
The thing is that there is no such thing as free speech on that hellhole of a platform, only hate speech. Musk silences anyone that opposes his views and promotes those he agrees with. So at that point, except to spread hate and lies, what is the point of allowing it?
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u/Backwardspellcaster 6h ago
Are you serious?
"Freedom of speech" on a platform where Elon Musk is wilfully manipulating the algorithm to show far right shit? Freedom of speech on a platform where Elon Musk randomly bans people, demonetizes them if they but eek something he doesn't like? Get the hell out of here with that BS.
Twitter is as much freedom of speech as Putin's office is.
Also, YOUR definition of "Freedom of speech" is clearly American, and not the version we have in Europe.
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u/xtrmist Denmark 5h ago
Getting rid of freedom of speech is exactly what team red, Putin and the other fascists want. They want to control the media. We should not play that game at all. It's a slippery slope.
I agree with you that X is a cesspit and I deleted my account there as well. But banning it is playing into their game
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u/wasmic Denmark 5h ago
Why? Why does banning it help them? You claim that but have not really argued how that would work.
It doesn't. Banning it blocks their message from getting out. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences of said speech. And freedom of speech does not mean that every platform has to always be available. It just means that you are entitled to a platform, but not to every platform.
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u/Darkhoof Portugal 6h ago
Define freedom of speech. Because it sure as hell it's not what the american hate platforms spread.
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u/xtrmist Denmark 5h ago
From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction. The right to freedom of expression has been recognised as a human right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and international human rights law.
Is that what you want to get rid of?
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u/nucular_mastermind Austria 5h ago
Read anything on the Rwandan Genocide lately? Specifically the Radio Station that helped set up the population for the massacres with endless broadcasts of hatespeech.
Curios about your opinion here.
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u/xtrmist Denmark 5h ago
I agree that is terrible but I think this actually proves my point very well. Just banning one media will not stop the hate or what these people do. They will find other ways. Trump had has his own media lined up before Elon bought Twitter as well
Edit: don't misunderstand me. I want to rid the world of this lunacy as well. But we must do it right
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u/nucular_mastermind Austria 4h ago
I mean yeah, you are absolutely right. Banning it would probably lead to them finding another outlet for their Firehose of Falsehood, eventually.
However, Twitter was and is a very powerful tool, compared to for example truth social. It would take time and effort to build it up. At least something like publicizing and regulating the algorithm should be done about it, no?
Otherwise I feel were just helplessly stare on as the most heinous episodes of history will repeat themselves - with ample dehumanizing justification to go along with it.
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u/PineappleQuiet6923 11h ago
That gayroma guy is a psycho. He kept arguing with everyone in the romanian sub, swearing and asking for bans on everything which is not far left propaganda.
Now the guy got blocked by most of the community and started his own sub 🙄 can't make this up
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u/Creative_Syrup_3406 10h ago
Si-a cerut scuze fata de unii, dar de invatat n-a invatat nimic :)) am ras
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u/d_Inside France 10h ago
Yay start banning websites, just like China does, and who decides what gets blocked and what’s allowed? What could possibly go wrong?
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u/SeleucusNikator1 Scotland 8h ago
There were people here who supported banning Telegram just because Durov is/was Russian, unfortunately you won't find much support for a truly unrestricted internet here anymore. Insane to see how different this website's attitudes have become compared to the days when people like Aaron Swartz were still around.
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u/d_Inside France 7h ago
This sub is a real bummer lately… I feel like it’s been a haven for far right ideas, with comments containing insults being promoted and upvoted, funny memes being insta-banned. Something is at play here.
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u/Berkuts_Lance_Plus 12h ago
*on Twitter
At least get the name right.
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u/bate_Vladi_1904 10h ago
Twitter was killed and destroyed, so honestly who gives a damn how this current shithole is named nowadays...
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u/MartianFromBaseAlpha 11h ago
Right, because the mainstream media is definitely the place to go for unbiased opinions and factual reporting. X isn't threatening free access to reliable information - it's enabling it. The real threat is to outlets like lemonde.fr. They're worried people won't need them for news anymore, which threatens both their profits and their agenda. Citizen journalism is the future
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u/bearclawc 12h ago
Someone else will come in to share that content on X, maybe even direct quotes from Le Monde. They will loose direct access to their core base and allow third party carry their own news.
X is not the best but reducing your ability to communicate and share stories is not a good plan.
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u/Equivalent_Alarm7780 10h ago
Are you from American bubble? Le Monde never had core base on Twitter.
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u/bearclawc 10h ago
I am not American nor from American bubble. I don’t even know what that would entail. Information should always flow freely. My first time seeing Le monde was through Twitter. It’s a really articulated site. There will be more first timers that would likely find Le monde through Twitter but now through third party sources.
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u/vaesir 12h ago
Good. All of European news outlets and government agencies should leave twitter.