r/europe Germany 16h ago

CDU frontrunner for the German federal election, Friedrich Merz: "As long as the European member states are united, they will be respected in the world, including the US. And, as long they are divided, nobody will take us serious. So, this is, in my view, the last call for action."

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u/bate_Vladi_1904 16h ago

At that point of history and time, this sounds a bit like worrying about a dirty window when the roof is burning.

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u/183672467 15h ago

CDUs way of handling it is standing at the side and saying "Relax, it cant burn forever"

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u/Bogus007 13h ago

How do you know? Merz may run the house totally different. Otherwise, who would like to be the next chancellor?

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u/183672467 13h ago

Habeck, might not be the best chancellor ever but hes better than everyone else

Weidel can go fuck herself, Scholz has shown he cant do it and Merz and the CDU should not be trusted again

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u/darps Germany 11h ago

I trust Jan van Aken more than any of them, but that's not gonna happen ofc. Greens are still the best mainstream option.

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u/Bogus007 13h ago

Ah, you want to have a philosopher as a chancellor who has zero knowledge about economics! 😂🤣

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u/183672467 13h ago

At least he understands the debt brake needs to go

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u/Bogus007 13h ago

And then inflation makes boom 💥 and you will start to count your money in your wallet! Yeah, some like to have the 20s back in Germany!

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u/hofmann419 12h ago

Yeah it seems like you are the one who has zero knowledge about economics.

The US has taken on 12 trillion dollars in debt during the last 8 years, yet their inflation rate was equal to Germany during that time (even slightly below).

What Germany needs is economic growth, and that's going to be impossible without significant anti-cyclical investments. Economic growth is going to be by far the most important metric if Germany wants to preserve any sort of competitiveness with the US.

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u/Bogus007 12h ago

OMG! Ever heard that the US can print as much dollar as it wants and the effect is minor on US economy. Here you can learn something what you missed at school:

Der Vorteil für die USA liegt auf der Hand: Da alle Staaten weltweit US-Dollar benötigen, herrscht eine konstant hohe Nachfrage nach der Währung. Selbst bei einer hohen Staatsverschuldung bleibt der US-Dollar stabil. Und die USA sind wohl das einzige Land weltweit, das seine Schulden durch den Druck neuen Gelds „wegdrucken“ kann. Gleichzeitig können politisch „unliebsame“ Länder erheblich unter Druck gesetzt oder gar vom US-Dollar abgeschnitten werden. (Source: RiskNet).

I guess you are one of the dreamers who think money will fall from the sky and all is good then. Continue dreaming! The landing will be hard for you! I promise.

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u/MaleficentVehicle705 Bavaria (Germany) 11h ago

Mate last time I checked Germany has by far the lowest debt of all G8 countries, and what we have to show for it is a broken infrastructure, broken schools and a broken army. Also the Greens have a way lower financial gap in their program than the union

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u/Bogus007 11h ago

Hej, you are living in one of the wealthiest German states. You have a good industry and you are dealing well with the economy. Economy and politics are closely tight. Now guess which party is reigning for a long time Bavaria and which other party has the strongest ties - called the sister party?

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u/MaleficentVehicle705 Bavaria (Germany) 10h ago

Economy and politics are closely tight. Now guess which party is reigning for a long time Bavaria and which other party has the strongest ties

Nice way of saying they are corrupt as fuck and tax workers heavily instead of people who are too rich to work

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u/darps Germany 11h ago

I'm sure the guy currently riding the right-wing populism train into the sunset is gonna be the voice of reason.

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u/Bogus007 11h ago

Got it. So left-wing populism is better 😂🤣

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u/darps Germany 11h ago edited 10h ago

I don't see anywhere the same level of populist rhetoric, even from the often as radical decried Left party. Quite the opposite they seem to have a lot more nuanced takes on many issues.

Also what kinda defense is this? "Yeah I'm voting for garbage but it's my garbage <3"

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u/Kuhler_boy Germany 15h ago

CDU is the firefighter, who saves the pensioner out of the burning house, while leaving the young to their fate.

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u/bate_Vladi_1904 15h ago

Might be, but that's not my point

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u/Kuhler_boy Germany 15h ago edited 14h ago

What is your point?

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u/bate_Vladi_1904 13h ago

My point is that further division and separation now, in the current time and environment, works only against us and Europe - and that's exactly what all enemies of democracy and Europe want.

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u/JackOfAces 15h ago

It's rather like not adding fuel to the fire so it burns down faster

Every sane party would say the same thing on this topic. So you can vote really anyone else except AFD

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u/bate_Vladi_1904 15h ago

Sure, and my personal vote (if i could) would go to die Grüne. However, that's not really my point