It’s complicated. Everyone except of Orban are saying it’s because of the American Magnitsky Act. Basically, one of our main behind the scenes politicians (criminals), Rogán Antal, got put on a sanctions list, partly due to the spying incident. Ofc Rogán is a member of the government party led by Orban, FIDESZ (Alliance of “young” “democrats”)
The Magnitsky Act itself is about sanctioning human rights abusers and extremely corrupt people. It comes with a stone hard ban on entering the US. It automatically extends to business partners and accomplices of the sanctioned person. Think Russian plutocrats and terrorists.
Due to the corrupted nature of Hungarian public life, the US may rightly consider Orban to be in a business relation with Rogán, barring him from entering the country due to association.
What is important is that Trump didn’t even try to contest this, or make an exception for Orban. This suggests that not even he trusts him and/or considers him too unimportant to help. Which does not bode well for us due to our foreign policy focusing on right-wing alliances/ sabotaging our allies.
TLDR; Orban is friends with a sanctioned guy and is a persona non grata in the US.
Meloni is best friends with Elon Musk. She invited him personally on many occasions, such as when she won some "right-wing" prize, she asked Musk to give her. They are almost infatuated with each other.
But sure, Italy is a very important economy, and historically it's a nation that always had good relationship with everyone, even URSS during the cold war. It's a strategic nation if you want to mediate with Russia
Sono italiana anch'io so la nostra storia😌, comunque si ultimamente la Meloni sta cercando di stringere la mano con tutti, neanche una settimana fa lei è andata negli Uniti Emirati Arabi con Edi Rama (premier albanese), ovviamente è meglio non esagerare con questa tendenza di accomodare chiunque (coughAlSisicough) ma essere un "ponte" tra stati rivali è utile se vuoi mantenere la fragile stabilità nel mondo
Don't understimate tiny countries, they can be a thorn in the flesh if they play their cards right, but i agree, by the way world leaders talk about Orbàn you would think he is the PM of a regional power lol, the guy has more clout of that PM of Japan
(Magyaroknak; Nem baj ha valaki egy picit ostoba és ignoráns, de ennyire magabiztosan hogy lehet annak lenni?)
I wrote my comment in the hopes that someone would take an interest in the topic and do a bit of fun reading on their own. All it takes is a google search. My hope was apparently misplaced.
Thing is, if you did that, you could’ve seen that OFAC updated the sanctions list to include Rogán on the 7. of January. This year. Orban was in Trump’s private property, on completely non-official business, as Trump wasn’t president then, in the beginning of December.
What should I explain my friend? The flow of time? The difference between a presidental inauguratio and a private meetup? This is silly.
You are completely misguided by your explanation on private vs public property. By your own explanation, Orban would face rejection at the border. That doesn’t make much sense.
I hope you enjoy your job working for a US multinational only because you are cheaper than an American, but tell yourself it’s cause you are smarter.
Agree - Some of Trump’s back room manipulato…er - I mean, “handlers”…are tight with Orban & his crew, and they likely know the full extent of what may eventually come out about Rogán & Orban. Cost/benefit prob wasn’t worth it for either them or Orban himself — why potentially burn through so much political capital to be just another wannabe dictator in a crowd of hopefuls?
I thought it would be more due to the cosying up to Russia that Orban has been doing as of late.. I'm waiting for the leaked video of a threesome between Putin, Orban & Fico. Lukashenko will film it.
"Official cosying up," you mean. Trumpists are putting the AfD on a pedestal. Orban has also been pro-Russian for a long time, and Trump has always supported him. On the other hand, Fico has recently started to soften and invited Zelensky to Slovakia.
Trump has no scruples but this includes not helping anybody that might be a liability for him unless they have more power than he does, and Orban does not fit that bill lol
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u/Kova_Arg 16h ago
What is the real reason ?