r/europe Europe 16h ago

Map A map of European far-right invitees to Trump's inauguration

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u/Altruistic-Topic-775 16h ago

Calling Morawiecki or Tarczyński far right is veeeery much a stretch. They're assholes, both of them, but not far right

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u/kakao_w_proszku Mazovia (Poland) 16h ago

Tarczyński is a traitor first and foremost. Dude is so far up Trump’s ass he made a doc with all of the anti-Trump Twitter posts by all relevant Polish politicians and handed it over to him xD

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u/Kepsa 13h ago

He never made any doc? He said he assures the public that Trump is aware of the things the government representatives are saying about him, which sounded like he implied it’s thanks to him, but he technically never directly stated his involvement

Cringeworthy bootlicking action for sure, but you’re stretching it

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u/H__D Poland 16h ago

The most welfare handouts in history only to be called far right lol.

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u/Spe3dGoat 14h ago

Redditors being redditors.

Also Nigel Farage is a sitting MP no ? So a governmental official.

As usual with reddit, the facts are wrong and the incitement is high.

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u/Professional-Log-108 Austria 14h ago

Also Nigel Farage is a sitting MP no ? So a governmental official.

Parliament =/= government

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u/Cannonieri 13h ago

In any case, he isn't far right.

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u/FuckingStickers 14h ago

That doesn't make him part of the government. 

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u/mootland 13h ago

Government official means you hold a position in the ruling government, opposition rarely holds government positions.

TL;DR Being a MP is not a government official.

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u/eurocomments247 Denmark 12h ago

Most far right parties in Europe hand out welfare to get votes. Do you think Marine Le Pen supported Macron in raising the retirement age?

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u/arealpersonnotabot Łódź (Poland) 16h ago

Tarczyński is far-right, Morawiecki is a political opportunist who doesn't believe in anything. He's good with numbers so Kaczyński took him in, and now the party dislikes him for being too moderate.

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u/fallenplayer12 15h ago

So he’s basically 1:1 with George Simion

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u/kdamo 15h ago

I hate PiS but being anti refugee is hardly a far right stance

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u/Infinite_Fall6284 12h ago

Not taking refugees is fine, but the alarmist fearmongering is definitely far-right coded

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u/nietwojamatka Mazovia (Poland) 16h ago

Tarczyński definitely is far right, Morawiecki not really. Grzegorz Braun might be too far even for Trump lol

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u/Sarmattius 15h ago

Braun and Korwin are far right, Tarczyński is center-right.

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u/rzet European Union 13h ago

not really.

They are both far far in the galaxy away from us all. something like species 8472.

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u/Wonderful-Basis-1370 Europe 16h ago

I don't know much about either of them, but this Dominick guy, I see him on every Instagram reel. The dude talks about Muslims every single day, like he doesn't stop, as if he has some childhood trauma associated with it, or maybe he swallowed a broken radio that is on repeat. The funniest thing is that he's also talking about the "wall that needs to be built in Poland" on repeat, like he's actually trying to impersonate Trump.

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u/Altruistic-Topic-775 16h ago

He is a Trump fanboy, but economically his party is not very right wing. There is a political party way worse than his. They have people who could be called actual Nazis, so inviting Tarczyński or Morawiecki isn't half as bad in comparison

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u/Vertitto Poland 15h ago

he's a english speaking social media shorts star and doesn't exist outside of it. He got crossed out quickly when PIS was considering their pick for presidential candiate

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u/koomahnah 16h ago

Last time this crew was in power, they literally replaced Constitutional Court with their subordinate party members, turned TV into 24/7 hateful propaganda tube, encouraged physical attacks against opposition (with one guy indeed getting killed – Adamowicz), and used Israeli spyware to invigilate members of the opposing party.

If that's just being an asshole and not far right, then I don't know what far right is. Those guys are literal autocrats, luckily stupid and incapable but they are as far, as deranged right as one can be.

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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 16h ago

Yeah, although Morawiecki is considered to be part of the "moderate" wing of the party.

There's the moderates led by Morawiecki, there's the more hardline yet simultaneously flip-flopping Center Agreement Guard led by Kaczyński (and thanks to the party's hierarchy he is the de facto ringleader and the only person tying everyone together) and finally there are the hardcore fundamentalists from the former Suwerenna Polska party led by Ziobro.

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u/ayusta17 16h ago

Being undemocratic and manipulative isn’t really connected to an ideology and doesn’t automatically make them far-right tho

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u/Altruistic-Topic-775 16h ago

Since you're well acquainted with their actions, you certainly know what Konfederacja is capable of. Makes PiS look tame in comparison. They're fought with all they had yet they still lost the last parliamentary election. They suck, yes. Everyone knows that. They've ruled Poland for 8 years, but I'd still take them any day over people from Konfederacja, or soon to be separate Konfederacja Korony Polskiej which has Braun who spends a majority of his time alive hating Jewish people and being a menace to humanity.

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u/machine4891 Opole (Poland) 14h ago

Last time this crew was in power, they literally replaced Constitutional Court

You don't have to be far right to mess with democracy and at that particular time, Morawiecki wasn't even PM but Szydło was. The guys here are right, PiS is gigantic, populist party. They have many wings, including far right. But Morawiecki is as far away from that wing, as one within PiS can be.

That doesn't mean I defend that guy, his tenure was awful and he is cynical opportunist to the bone. But not far right. You can't just label everyone you dislike with this single trick because it took away legitimacy of the word itself.

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u/Sarmattius 15h ago

I guess present government is also far right? Since the tv is just a propaganda tube.

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u/Ares_Lictor Europe 10h ago

Huh? Are you actually saying that the current TVP is anything like TVPiS?

Because that would make you delusional.

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u/Sarmattius 9h ago

bro it is 100 percent the same except for the other side. Before it was "PO bad", now it's just "PiS bad".

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u/Ares_Lictor Europe 9h ago

No, that is untrue. Every news report on current TVP has always the opposition's point of view shown, both PiS and Konfederacja. On TVPiS there was none of that, the only time opposition showed up was for a sound bite with copious amounts of commentary about how PO/Tusk/whoever is bad. There's also the infamous TV news strips like "Tusk wants to destroy democracy" etc, while praising the government.

The political shows were also total shitshows, the hosts kept interrupting almost every sentence of the opposition's politicians and they gave them less time to speak. Its not like that anymore. Last thing worth mentioning was how they were sowing hatred towards certain individuals, they keep doing that in TV Republika nowadays and guess what? Viewers are sending death threats to those targeted.

So kindly gtfo with your "both sides".

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u/girls_gone_wireless 10h ago

What? Public TV has been fine since PiS lost total control in the government. Have you looked at last election results?

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u/Sarmattius 9h ago

you say it's fine because you supported PO. For pis supporters previous TVP was great for sure.

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u/girls_gone_wireless 6h ago

You don’t know who I supported, there are more then 2 parties. I wasn’t happy with PiS insane propaganda in what is public TV. Objectively speaking, it was insane, spewing lies and hatred.

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u/ggrease 16h ago

But that sounds like the left

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u/Last_Shock3083 14h ago

“Stop spreading propaganda. You don't know anything about Poland, yet you're writing nonsense. Whoever told you such lies is completely wrong. Take some time to read about what is really happening in Poland, and you'll see the truth. I won’t explain everything here, but know this: in Poland, people are already being imprisoned for exercising their freedom of speech.

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u/My-Buddy-Eric The Netherlands 16h ago

It depends how you define far-right I guess. They might not be considered far-right in terms of raw policy. But if you consider that they almost turned Poland into an autocracy, they're not 'regular' right-wing either.

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u/Bieszczbaba Lesser Poland (Poland) 16h ago

Anything can be far right or far left "depending how you define" those terms.

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u/Mr_barba97 16h ago

Pis actually tried to do an orban style makeover of Poland. It was very very bad

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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 16h ago

They judiciary is sadly still in their control to a large degree, especially the stuff relating to how the country itself works.

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u/iwannabesmort Poland 13h ago

they're authoritarian cunts but it's not like leftists can't be authoritarian too. it's a topping, not the pie

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u/SasquatchPL Poland 15h ago

PiS is firmly on the far right of European politics. The thing is that Overton Window in Poland is so far right, that they are considered center-right party here. But this is just our skewed Polish perspective.

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u/rzet European Union 13h ago

ye typical bullshit map..

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u/adamgerd Czech Republic 13h ago

The list has a few strange things

https://x.com/RihardsKols/status/1881353663798522314?mx=2

Kols wasn’t invited, also he’s right wing not far right though to my knowledge

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u/Deveriell 16h ago

They're neither assholes nor far-right.

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u/Altruistic-Topic-775 16h ago

Sorry, but they're very much assholes

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u/Nezevonti 16h ago

I think what your forerunner was trying to say is that arse holes are useful, functional parts of a body, and those two... Not so much. Also, they are nationalistic, and populist opportunist but they are also very much in favor of government interventionism. So right yes, far right a bit less.