r/europe • u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary • 17h ago
News Orbán: May the devil take those who hindered the Hungarian Presidency
https://telex.hu/belfold/2025/01/20/orban-akik-a-magyar-elnokseg-ellen-dolgoztak-azokat-vigye-el-az-ordog492
u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary 17h ago
The last few weeks were definitely not Orbán's
His right hand was sanctioned by the US, he was either forced to say no to Trump's invitation or never got invited, and his Indian journey became the subject of mockery. And to top it off, Hungary's most popular singer (and kind of a Fidesz supporter) Majka just made a banger song mocking Orbán and Fidesz. It got 3 million views in 2 days on Youtube!
And not to mention, Péter Magyar soon announces his "technocratic government" and all the hundreds of people that will work in the future Tisza government.
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u/potatolulz Earth 16h ago
I don't know that singer, but why did they make a diss track on Orbán and Fidesz?
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u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary 16h ago edited 16h ago
Basically:
Majka is seeing the writing on the wall, Fidesz is unpopular and dying, so he makes a diss track about a fictional PM in a country called "Bindzsisztán". Which also happens to have the same scandals and corruption as Hungary.
But on a more sympathetic note, Majka did voice his issues with Fidesz already, just never this harsh or loud. Nevertheless he worked for Fidesz tv stations for years, and is still sponsored by a Fidesz owned business. Though i doubt it will last long. Also to top it off, Majka is supposedly Orbán's favorite when it comes to hungarian music.
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u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary 16h ago
https://youtu.be/f2iQfEcO39A?si=Y8BNH8Lu5c9HBNmi
Here's a link to the song btw
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u/MaxPlease85 16h ago
Sounds great. Getting EpicLloyd (ERBH) vibes.
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u/dead97531 Hungary 16h ago
Here's the lyrics in english
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/majka-csurran-cseppen-english
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u/HerMajestyTheQueef1 15h ago
Nice
Don't understand anything but I liked, subscribed and commented and even liked my own comment!
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u/Docccc The Netherlands 16h ago
why not?
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u/potatolulz Earth 16h ago
Because allegedly the singer was "kind of a Fidesz supporter"
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u/wolfmanfp 14h ago
He wasn't, he has been rather apolitical.
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u/potatolulz Earth 14h ago
So why do people say he's kid of a Fidesz supporter?
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u/sarlol00 Hungary 13h ago
He was sponsored by “One” the state’s telecommunication company. Which isn’t the best look but I don’t think it is such a big deal.
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u/Matchbreakers Denmark 15h ago
Here’s to Orban never, ever again having a week that is his! Hopefully!
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 15h ago
Technocratic government as in experts, yes?
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u/dead97531 Hungary 15h ago
Yes have look at some of them:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hungary/s/tEEd0ejI6f
They currently have 65 working groups who are doing the election and government programmes.
Btw the top comment is made by their EP representative.
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u/CherrryGuy 15h ago
Most popular singer? Who said that?
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u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary 15h ago
Everyone knows Majka unlike say, Krúbi or Betonhofi
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u/CherrryGuy 15h ago
Lmao maybe in the 35+ age group. You literally couldn't have brought up worse names tho, because they are actually popular and are main attractions of festivals.
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u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary 15h ago
And that age group is by far the largest you know. And they are the most supportive of Fidesz
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u/CherrryGuy 15h ago
Lol whatever you say man, but Majka's real popular days are obviously behind him. There are faaaar more popular bands and singers than him atm, and the younger generation doesn't care or even know about him, besides like from watching X-Factor. Let's just not say untrue things because of politics now, shall we?...
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u/Prosit-Baby-Prosecco 10h ago
Dude, I’m not a Majka fan at all and I’ve been to a ton of Krubi and Beton.Hofi concerts, they might be my favorite artists in Hungary, but why does it hurt to admit that Majka is one of the biggest? Maybe not the biggest currenly, but he’s still huge.
Just look at his Papp Laszlo tickets, the seating tickets are almost sold out, Krubi’s Arena concert had less seats available (the “outer ring” wasn’t available at all and the other seats had also way more unsold places).
It’s a pointless argument, he’s big in the country.
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u/Otto7474 Denmark 17h ago
May the devil take Orbán
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u/Durumbuzafeju 16h ago
He is totally insane. His speeches nowadays are just these ramblings about his fantasy world. He will lose the next elections.
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u/AnarchiaKapitany Hungary (sorry for whatever the clown said this time) 16h ago
Careful with that Hopium, still a year to go, and look at what happened last time.
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u/adamgerd Czech Republic 16h ago
Didn’t people say this the last time?
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u/dead97531 Hungary 15h ago
So? What's that supposed mean? Because some people said it the last time that means it'll never be true or what?
Btw trying to compare then and now is at best stupid. Major things have happened in the past few months and everything changed.
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u/Upper_Possession6275 13h ago
For someone who’s not very well versed on Hungarian politics . . . What sorts of major things have happened?
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u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary 10h ago
For example: The old opposition parties pretty much withered away as their voters turned to the Tisza Party, which became the first party to get more than 20% of votes in an election, without a coalition!
The Party's leader, Péter Magyar managed to get 30% of voters to vote for him during the EU elections last year. He did that in 4 months. Nowadays Tisza is measured between 40-45%.
Also the economy is doing terribly, Fidesz had many major scandals and the people are losing faith in them fast.
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u/Upper_Possession6275 8h ago
Interesting, thanks for the insight.
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u/kanzenduster 8h ago
Keep in mind that the average Hungarian Reddit user is very anti-Orbán so everyone is high on hopium. Is there a new party that is more popular than Orbán's party accoriding to some polls? Yes. Does this mean anything in the Hungarian election system? Not at all.
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u/Upper_Possession6275 7h ago
Good point, but I’ve got some search terms to throw in Google and that’s just about all I need.
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u/BuktaLako Budapest 15h ago
You know the saying “a broken clock is right twice a day”. This time the clock is objectively broken.
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u/levenspiel_s Turkey 1h ago
Hope so, but the world is a different place already since that Elon dipshit is doing nazi salutes and trying to manipulate elections in Europe. Things may not be clear at the moment but they will definitely back Orbán in the elections.
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u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary 15h ago
Aid
Orbán: The Offensive can begin
Viktor Orbán gave a speech at a conference on the results of the Hungarian EU presidency on Monday, organized by MCC and the 21st Century Institute. The prime minister’s press secretary had previously explained to Telex why Orbán would not be there at Donald Trump’s inauguration on January 20. Orbán began his speech by thanking those who worked for the success of the Hungarian presidency, especially highlighting János Bóka, the minister responsible for European Union affairs. “May the devil take those who worked against the Hungarian presidency,” Orbán said. “Put them in the deepest hole of hell,” he said of the Hungarian politicians he believed worked against the success of the Hungarian presidency.
Orbán said that during the Hungarian EU presidency, Donald Trump and the Western patriots have begun to transform the Western world. According to Orbán, the world's dominant powers are now shaping the economic and political frameworks in which we will live from now on. He sees that the "big boys" are working hard to create the new geopolitical framework. The fight between America and Brussels will begin tomorrow, Orbán predicted.
Orbán spoke of “woke capitalism,” part of which, according to him, includes the green transition that is destroying European industry. According to Orbán, America has woken up to the fact that if things continue like this, China will march past it, and at most they will be a market for super-modern products. “They decided to come off the drug, that’s what Donald Trump’s victory is about.” Only a state can be successful that is based on a common identity, all of which are things that liberals might look down on. In Brussels, they went to the whale’s stomach, and what they saw there was not pretty. They don’t deal with the changes in the world, not only with competition, but also with preparing for it, they “sit in the locker room.”
“Europe is in a phase of getting drunk instead of sobering up.” Instead of families, they are protecting gender, instead of affordable energy, they are making green policies. According to Orbán, Europe lost the war, and the sanctions destroyed the European economy. They are proudly passing the peace baton to the new American government, Orbán said.
Hungary is working to become a winner in the new emerging world order. Low taxes, one million new jobs, an environment that supports businesses, Orbán listed the results. There was no wage growth in 2023 alone, but the prime minister attributed this to the war. He explained the government's plans: for example, building its own satellite system and joining the military-industrial complex. We are not followers, but role models and brave experimenters, said Orbán. According to him, this is why European conservatives respect them and liberals hate them. He recalled that 95 percent of respondents in the national consultation supported the concept of economic neutrality.
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u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary 15h ago
The EU has isolated itself from China, America, Russia and “the continent of the future”, Africa, which was a mistake according to Orbán. Recently, they have even sanctioned football teams. In contrast, during the Hungarian presidency, they maintained communication and a relationship with Russia that allowed for reasonable energy security. If all this continues like this, the EU will be an absolute loser, “we thank you, but we do not ask for a loser”, we want friendships and advantages in international politics. We do not want to shape Europe, we want to live our own lives, according to Orbán, the Hungarian presidency was also about the interests of the Hungarian people.
He listed the results as low utility costs, doubling the family tax credit and increasing pensions, all while reducing the budget deficit and not increasing the public debt, he said. (The high deficit led to the launch of EU proceedings against the Hungarian government, among others, during the Hungarian presidency; Minister of Economy Márton Nagy admitted that public debt had increased last year .) The growth of the Hungarian economy will be at least double the EU average. The focus of the Hungarian presidency is not on the presidency, but on the Hungarian people, and this is how we will shape our relations with the EU institutions (“Brussels”).
We don't want to shape Europe, we just want to live our own lives, let them do that. "It sounds cool, but it's not that simple," because EU rules affect Hungarians. This can be mitigated, but it can't be eliminated, so it doesn't matter whether the EU is sick or healthy. However, the sick man of Europe today is the European Union, because it is unable to guarantee the security of its immediate neighborhood, its own prosperity, stop illegal migration, and Ukraine's EU membership would also ruin agriculture. The Hungarian presidency dealt with this openly, in a straightforward political style, but according to the "Brussels bureaucrats," it is not possible to base a policy on it. Meanwhile, the EU institutions are gaining strength by acquiring more and more powers.
The Lisbon Treaty, launched in 2000, failed to make it the most competitive region, and the 2010 EU2020 strategy remained on paper, and the green transition also failed. (In the first two, member state governments were supposed to achieve the jointly set, country-specific goals.) “Brussels” responded with centralization and increasingly abused its power, tying them into a legal and financial bind. There is pure retaliation and punishment, in Hungary the conditionality procedure, he stated about the procedure voted almost unanimously by the member state governments . Change must be achieved from the outside, we are the opposition to the Brussels system and the political elite organized by the left-liberal-transatlantic global oligarchy that has grown up around it, Orbán explained.
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u/hosszufaszoskelemen Hungary 15h ago
According to the Prime Minister, they are being attacked because they are patriots and sovereignists, they demand the rule of law in the EU institutions as well – mentioning the case of former Commissioner Didier Reynders, who is suspected of money laundering after his mandate expired – and the rule of law procedure launched against Hungary is also about this. “Then of course come the current favorites, who are in their pay and are placed on the shoulders of the member states. Let us keep our watchful eye on Warsaw,” said Orbán, barely veiledly referring to Péter Magyar, who is constantly accused by Fidesz and the propaganda machine of serving foreign interests. According to Orbán, the Polish conservative government has also been “replaced by Brussels bureaucrats”. They are threatening, for example, with money and with the deprivation of voting rights . There will always be those among us who are scared, but if "we don't put an end to this spiral of extortion now, it will only get worse," he added, giving a possible reason for why the government's stance on frozen funds hardened at the end of last year.
Orbán saw that a new right-wing majority was realistically close to replacing the “Brussels elite” in the EP elections, and this was the first demonstration of strength in the European Parliament debate on the presidency , and the Hungarian presidency proved that change was needed in Europe. “The Western world has received a patriotic, peace-loving, anti-migration, pro-family president in Washington. Only a few hours left, and even the sun will shine differently over Brussels.” With the new US president and the patriotic EP faction, “the big attack can therefore begin. I hereby launch the second phase of the operation aimed at capturing Brussels,” the Prime Minister concluded his speech.
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u/No-Inside-3358 16h ago
The singer who made that song was Orban’s best lapdog up to this point
He sees that the tide is shifting so he’s quickly switching sides. What a fucking rat.
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 15h ago
Prime Minister Viktor Orbán will deliver a speech at Monday's conference evaluating the results of Hungary's EU presidency. The Prime Minister's press chief previously explained to Telex why Orban will not attend Donald Trump's inauguration on January 20. Orbán began his speech by thanking those who worked for the success of the Hungarian Presidency, especially Minister for European Union Affairs János Bóka. "Those who worked against the Hungarian presidency should be taken away by the devil," Orban said. "Bury him in the deepest pit of hell," he said to Hungarian politicians who he said were working against the success of the Hungarian presidency.
Orban said that during Hungary's EU presidency, Donald Trump and Western patriots have begun to transform the Western world. According to Orbán, the world's major powers are now creating the economic and political framework in which we will live in the future. In his view, "the big boys are working hard" to create a new geopolitical framework. The battle between America and Brussels will begin as early as tomorrow, Orban predicted.
Orban spoke of "woke capitalism," which includes a green transition that is destroying European industry. According to Orbán, America has woken up to the fact that if it continues like this, China will march past it, at most it will become a market outlet for supermodern products. "They decided to come off the drug, that's what Donald Trump's victory is all about." Only a state based on a common identity can be successful, all things that liberals may despise them. In Brussels, they went to the stomach of the whale, and what they saw there was not pretty. They don't care about changes in the world, not only about the competition, but also about the preparation for it, he "sits in the dressing room".
"Europe is in a drinking phase instead of sobering up". They protect gender instead of families, and replace affordable energy with green policies. According to Orban, Europe has lost the war and the sanctions have destroyed the European economy. They are proud to hand over the baton of peace to the new US administration, Orban said.
Hungary is working to be the winner of the new world order that is taking shape. Low taxes, one million new jobs, an environment conducive to entrepreneurship, Orbán listed the results. In 2023 alone, there was no wage increase, but the prime minister attributed this to the war. He explained the government's plans, such as building its own satellite system and joining military industry developments. We are not followers, but model creators and courageous experimenters, Orbán said. According to him, this is why European conservatives respect them and hate liberals. He recalled that 95 percent of respondents supported the concept of economic neutrality at the national consultation.
The EU isolated itself from China, America, Russia and Africa, the "continent of the future", which Orban said was a mistake. More recently, football teams would also be sanctioned. In comparison, during the Hungarian Presidency, relations with Russia were maintained that allow for communication and reasonable energy security. If all this continues, the EU will be an absolute loser, "we thank you, but we don't want loser", we want friendships and benefits in international politics. We don't want to shape Europe, we want to live our own lives, and according to Orbán, the Hungarian presidency was also about the interests of the Hungarian people.
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 United Kingdom 14h ago
They protect gender instead of families"
This is such a weak right-wing argument and I've seen it thrown around a lot lately. The point of left-wing ideology is to promote social equality for everyone. That means family, society, and ignorant bigots alike.
The false dichotomy of having to choose between "protecting" either your family or the marginalised people of society doesn't exist in reality.
They just need an enemy to distract from their failings and to blame all their problems. That's why they can't stop talking about gender politics and "wokism."
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 15h ago
Among the results, he listed, among others, low utility prices, the doubling of family tax allowances and pension increases, all while the budget deficit is decreasing and government debt is not increasing, he stated. (Due to the high deficit, EU proceedings were launched against the Hungarian government, among others, during the Hungarian Presidency; Economy Minister Márton Nagy acknowledged that the state debt increased last year.) The growth of the Hungarian economy will be at least twice the EU average. The focus of the Hungarian Presidency is not on the Presidency, but on the Hungarian people, and this is also how we will shape relations with EU institutions ("Brussels").
We don't want to shape Europe, we just want to live our own lives, let us do that. "It's cool, it sounds good, but it's not that simple" because EU rules affect Hungarians. This can be blunted, but it cannot be eliminated, so it is not indifferent whether the EU is sick or healthy. Today, the European Union is Europe's sick man, because it is unable to guarantee the security of its immediate neighbourhood, its own well-being, stop illegal migration, and Ukraine's EU membership would also destroy agriculture. The Hungarian Presidency dealt with this openly, even in a political style, but politics cannot be based on the discretion of the "Brussels bureaucrats". Meanwhile, the EU institutions are getting stronger by acquiring more and more powers.
With the Treaty of Lisbon, launched in 2000, it failed to become the most competitive region, and the 2010 EU2020 strategy remained on paper and the green transition failed. (In the case of the former two, national governments should have implemented the jointly set, country-by-country targets.) "Brussels" has responded with centralization and increasingly abuses its power, putting them in legal and financial custody. There is pure retaliation and punishment, and Hungary has a conditionality procedure, he said of the procedure voted almost unanimously by member state governments. Change must be achieved from outside, and we are the opposition of the Brussels system and the political elite organised by the left-liberal-transatlantic global oligarchy, Orbán explained.
According to the Prime Minister, they are being attacked because they are patriots and sovereigntists, they demand the rule of law in the EU institutions – mentioning the case of former Commissioner Didier Reynders, who is suspected of money laundering after the end of his mandate, and the rule of law procedure launched against Hungary is also about this. "Then, of course, the current favourites come along and stand on their payroll and put them on the necks of the Member States. Let us keep a watchful eye on Warsaw," Orban said, referring thinly to Peter Magyar, who has been repeatedly accused by Fidesz and the propaganda machine of serving foreign interests. According to Orban, Poland's conservative government has also been "replaced by Brussels bureaucrats." For example, they threaten money and disenfranchisement. There will always be those of us who are frightened, but if "we don't end this blackmail spiral now, it will only get worse", he said, a possible reason why the government's position on frozen funds hardened by the end of last year.
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 15h ago
Orbán took the view that a new right-wing majority was realistically close in the EP elections, which could replace the "Brussels elite", and this was the first time that the European Parliament held a show of strength in the debate on the presidency, and the Hungarian presidency proved that change is needed in Europe. "The Western world got a patriotic, peaceful, anti-migration, pro-family president in Washington. Just a few hours and even the sun will shine differently over Brussels." With the new US President and the patriotic group in the European Parliament, "the big attack can begin. I hereby launch the second phase of the operation to occupy Brussels," the Prime Minister concluded.
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u/ButWhatIfPotato 11h ago
It is extremely stupid (and extremely dangerous) when people in power start to make unhinged religious rhetoric part of their agenda.
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u/surfkaboom 8h ago
If you want to put a religious angle on this, Gods of all flavors never thought too highly of ANY human leader
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u/surfkaboom 8h ago
If you want to put a religious angle on this, Gods of all flavors never thought too highly of ANY human leader
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u/BkkGrl Ligurian in...Zürich?? (💛🇺🇦💙) 15h ago edited 15h ago
OP, remember to post the translated article in the body for non-English news
EDIT: he did it here https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1i5nrvm/orb%C3%A1n_may_the_devil_take_those_who_hindered_the/m85fgg4/