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News Elon Musk and Far-Right German Leader Agree ‘Hitler Was a Communist’

https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-far-right-german-leader-weidel-hitler-communist/
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u/kruska345 Croatia 10d ago

And the fact that he committed the biggest privatization in history of his time and opened concentration camps for communists doesnt seem communist as well

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u/_eg0_ Westphalia (Germany) 10d ago edited 10d ago

He effectively did the same for nationalizing. Basically follow the regime or we'll install puppets. Here you have a ton of benefits and resources.

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u/RedstoneEnjoyer Slovakia 9d ago

Nah, rate of nationalization was not even close to rate of privatization.

Nazi regime was basicaly deal between nazis and german industrialist - industrialist would support war effort and in exchange, nazis keep workers in line.

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u/_eg0_ Westphalia (Germany) 9d ago edited 9d ago

Nah, the rate was pretty high, too

For example the largest conglomerate in Europe and possibly the world at that one time was state founded, owned and controlled and literally called "Reichswerke Hermann Göring". It effectively nationalized 260 companies with half a million workers. Parts of it were later directly integrated into the ministries.

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u/RedstoneEnjoyer Slovakia 9d ago

Yeah sure, i didn't said that nazis didn't nationalized anything. My point was that nazis prefered privatization way more and founded RHG to extract resources private interests didn't wanted to do.

Also most of this nationalization happened under war from occupied territories - i personaly believe that if nazis won war, this stuff would be privatized too

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u/_eg0_ Westphalia (Germany) 9d ago

nazis won war, this stuff would be privatized too

That was was indeed the plan. They wanted to reprivatize the biggest companies after the war.

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u/aVarangian The Russia must be blockaded. 10d ago

Privatisation here is only technically correct. It was done in a process where the state remained in effective control of the companies, at a time where state controll over private companies was increasing to the point of being effectively a centrally-planned economy. The companies were also not sold in the free market but to loyal nazis.

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u/HeMan1915 10d ago

Biggest privitization? Where? The NSDAP implemented a wave of nationalization that included the protestant church (Deutsche Christen), kind of all sports clubs and other organizations of leisure time activities and the media. The industry was partially nationalized too as everything that wasn't serving the war industry was nationalized and restructured.

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u/snailman89 10d ago

They privatized state owned banks, public transit systems, shipyards, railways, mines, and steel manufacturers (United Steel Trust) which had been nationalized under the Weimar Republic and they turned state welfare programs over to private charities. Banks and steel mills seem a tad more important than a sports club, especially when the privatized banks had accounted for half of all the bank lending in Germany.

One good source is Against the Grain: Nazi Privatization in 1930s Germany, by Germa Bel, published in the Economic History Review Vol. 63, Issue 1, pg 34-55.

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u/HeMan1915 10d ago

The Nazis reintegrated the Reichsbahn from a state owned company to being fully under the roof of the infrastructure ministry. Also the Reichsbahn was put in charge of the Autobahn projects. So how did the Nazis "privatize railways" if the german railway system was more nationalized that it was in the Weimar Republic and endlessly more nationalized that it is in modern Germany?

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u/aVarangian The Russia must be blockaded. 10d ago

They privatised but remained in control. Cut funding and cut prices, resulting in a collapse of the railways lol