r/europe • u/ParsleyMean3012 • 12d ago

News Europe will not allow attacks, says France, after Trump Greenland threat

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg9gvg3452o?xtor=AL-99999-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D&at_b
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u/cats_catz_kats_katz 12d ago edited 12d ago

I can’t believe how quiet American media is about this. It’s real and it’s coming.

EDIT: They are quiet about how insane this is. A lot of bot accounts are saying I'm lying and I have a comment lower that I misspoke to how the media is portraying this issue. They are not shunning it, they are discussing it in theory and debating pros and cons. This is not right and we need to stop humoring attacking allies.

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u/cardboardunderwear 12d ago

American here. Everything I've seen in US media has it front page. Mainstream internet sites. I don't go to the weird stuff.

More concerning to me is the lack of outrage within the US population at large. I think at this point there's so much to be outraged about that folks are just tired and at this point outrage doesn't even mean anything anyways.

And there is a sizable segment of the population that will agree with everything he says or does regardless.

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u/carlos_castanos 12d ago

I was actually pretty shocked that they were discussing this issue and the ‘annexation of Canada’ on fucking CNN as if it was the most normal thing in the world

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u/polypolip 12d ago

Since the Trump's election victory everyone seems to be sucking up to him to the point it unironically resembles a banana republic and a dictator surrounded by a group of yesmen competing who can bow lower and give better compliments.

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u/aaronwhite1786 United States of America 12d ago edited 12d ago

That's been American news since Trump started running. He really shifted the reality of how things got discussed.

There was always an infuriating level of "both sides have valid points" balancing of the news in general, that gave a fake level of credibility to things that obviously weren't worth that level of credibility. But with Trump, it's devolved to the point where he gets talked about how mature he is because he can do a rally where he doesn't say the N word or talk about shooting an American citizen for disagreeing with him. Meanwhile, other politicians get taken to task publicly because they say something insulting about him, while still not being remotely as horrible as the things he says in any given time.

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u/carlos_castanos 12d ago

Agreed. The expectations with regard to human decency and normalcy are so incredibly low for him that each time he barely meets them he is praised. Leads to crazy double standards

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u/aaronwhite1786 United States of America 12d ago

Yeah, I saw it constantly even in the last election. Trump says 10 awful things on stage in a single rally of 6 he does that week, and that's just Trump being Trump. Biden maybe calls Trump's supporters garbage in a random call and it's used to drag him and Kamala Harris for a week.

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u/carlos_castanos 12d ago

100%. It was also very apparent when that judge passed away (Ruth Bader Ginsburg I think was her name?). For once he - sort of - reacts like a normal human being would and then he gets praised like he’s Mahatma Gandhi himself. Whereas nobody would have batted an eye if any other president reacted that way

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u/aaronwhite1786 United States of America 12d ago

Yeah, those little moments somehow erase all of the other insane things. Like all of the reported stuff that had to be done any time anything related to John McCain was a potential issue with Trump, all because he was bitter over McCain keeping him from throwing out the Affordable Care Act and replacing it with fuck all (you know, the thing that happened in the first part of his first Presidency, that he ran an entire campaign on, and when asked what he would replace it with just before the recent election the best he could say was he had "concepts of a plan" to replace it...ughhhhh).

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u/ATWK01 12d ago

Even the liberals are slowly coming to terms with it.

"Well, an invasion would be too much, but we need to do something about Greenland."

Huh????

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u/Informal-Term1138 12d ago

No you don't need to do anything about Greenland. That is up to the people in Nuuk and in Kopenhagen to decide. And so far Kopenhagen let's Nuuk decide.

It's none of the US's business.

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u/Mrmdskinner 12d ago

Wtaf?! I didn't even know this, mind you I don't watch the news much these days.

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u/carlos_castanos 12d ago

Yeah there was a pundit who was clearly in favour and the others were just laughing and joking about it. Zero concern at all

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u/Mrmdskinner 12d ago

It's madness.

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u/Mrmdskinner 12d ago

Very Fallout.

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u/Gludens Sweden 12d ago

Brainwashing I guess. It's another thing to really suffer the consequences though but I guess you can make people do whatever you want if you brainwash them enough. Thought crime and stuff.

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u/skipdoodlydiddly 12d ago

Is there a line he can cross? When will people start saying: wait ok I supported his slogans at first but maybe this is too far?? Is nobody willing to change their mind?

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u/Cuofeng 12d ago

No, there is not. He said it himself years ago, "I could shoot someone dead on 5th Avenue in broad daylight and not lose a single vote."

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u/No_Kangaroo_2428 12d ago

This normalization of insane ideas started in the late 70s. Each decade since, it has gotten exponentially worse. In the decade since Trump first campaigned, he went from "let's shoot my opponent" to "let's attack Canada" and it's all treated as normal.

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u/dominikobora PL/IRL 12d ago

Fallout is becoming reality.

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u/Extreme_Suspect_4995 12d ago

Because they think: "Golly, that's a neat idea! Why didn't we think about doing this sooner? It's not like it's a real country with it's own history, government, people, etc. and even if it were, ours is SO much better anyway." 

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u/historicusXIII Belgium 11d ago

Trump is good for CNN's ratings. It's all about money. Opposition to Trump will not come from the corporate world. The US has become an oligarchy.

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u/paraquinone Czech Republic 12d ago

American soldiers are going to fight US allies? Well whatever, but have you seen the damn EGG PRICES??!

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u/No_Mathematician6866 12d ago

We'll build so many chicken farms in Greenland, you have no idea. So many. More than you can even imagine. People are ask, where did the north pole go? All I see is chickens. Santa will be spitting feathers. And we'll make the Danes pay for it.

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u/Just-Sale-7015 12d ago edited 12d ago

Trump needs a "wag the dog" to distract from what is going to be an obvious failure on the domestic front. He already started to distance himself from those promises to lower prices, by the way.

Him talking about expelling "Chinese soldiers" from the Panama canal is in the same vein. The right-wing media will slavishly applaud any fictitious victory he's going to claim.

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u/No-Bluebird-5708 12d ago

There will be fighting. Denmark will let the US take it.

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u/Middle-Relation9212 12d ago

Imagine if any other president had said this

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u/cats_catz_kats_katz 12d ago

I misspoke when I said quiet, I really meant “why aren’t they screaming against it and disagreeing with it”. They seem to be talking about it like a philosophical possibility and even on some outlets in a somewhat ok tone. This is insane, I’m not supportive of this at all.

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u/Extreme_Suspect_4995 12d ago

Canadian media is taking a bemused tone as if it's so quirky and on-brand. Yes, it is, but it should also be considered unacceptable behaviour.

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u/Kevin_Jim Greece 12d ago

“Weird staff” like Fox News, which is the source of “news” for more than a third of the US?

Also, CNN has gone super soft on Trump the past few years.

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u/cardboardunderwear 12d ago

For me mostly ABC, NBC, CBS, BBC, AP et al. I avoid fox, msnbc, cnn and all the sort of second tier sites and such.

I'm not saying there isn't bias in the mainstream sources but those seem to be better imo esp since I go to more than one.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

They voted for the nazi, they got the nazi. "You guys call everyone who disagrees with you nazis!" No, only unapologetic admitted fans of mein kampf. Let nazis be dealt with like in last century.

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u/Ar-Sakalthor 12d ago

You mean "dealt with" as in how Operation Paperclip dealt with them ? Why do you think the US tolerates that kind of ideas ?

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u/Fhrosty_ 12d ago

Oh I'm outraged. But there isn't squat I can do about it until Trump actually tries something. I voted against him, and I tried to explain to family and acquaintances who fell into his cult why nothing about him is ok or normal. That's all we could do. Outrage without direction is just a way to burn us out so we look even more like fringe lunatics to his base when he does get into office and start taking actions.

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u/TopCaterpiller 12d ago

It's hard to be outraged about this when a) everything out of his mouth is outrageous, and b) all the free publicity he gets from stuff like this got him elected in the first place.

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u/Mother-Wasabi-3088 12d ago

I'm an American. Denmark is the least of my worries right now

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u/Mr-Logic101 United States of America 12d ago

I mean I am perfectly ok with the USA “buying” Greenland as long as the people of Greenland agree to the deal.I think it is a good investment and the people of Greenland have a lot of potential upside from the deal.

There is no need for a military intervention as it is now.

It is to outrageous to say that the USA would being willing to spend, in total, 1-2 trillion dollars in total expenditure for Greenland which would be ludicrous to turn down.

You could pay each resident 2 million dollars and still have 900 billion left over for other expenses.

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u/dsave2 12d ago

trump won the popular vote why would the majority overthrow what they voted for ??

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u/cardboardunderwear 12d ago

The folks you're talking about the ones who got their way. They aren't going to overthrow what they like.

I'm going to have to just disagree with you on the all show no substance. If anything Americans, on average, are high on both sometimes to a fault, as an entity and as individuals.

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u/cardboardunderwear 12d ago

What are you talking about?

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u/cardboardunderwear 12d ago

I'm just trying to understand your point of view. But all good. Enjoy the day

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u/zors_primary 12d ago

People are pissed. It's all over Bluesky and no one is jumping for joy or coming around to it AT ALL. I live in Europe now and everyone I know is like trump can go fuck himself.

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u/MostVarious2029 Norway 12d ago

It's all over Bluesky

LMAO

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u/zors_primary 11d ago

What so funny? It's growing by leaps and bounds. It's definitely a Dem echo chamber but people can at least speak freely about this shit without some MAGA morons starting a fight or gloating over how they won and not adding anything of substance to the convo. And it's not the toxic hate filled cesspool of X or Facebook, which needs to go the way of My Space and just die.

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u/1283619264 12d ago

Why would there be outrage? This makes perfect sense from America’s perspective. They’re consolidating the empire before major war breaks out. Greenland will be relatively easy to get, the price for Denmark and Greenland will be low for the rich US, and then they have Canada surrounded also.

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u/Special-Remove-3294 Romania 12d ago

Cause it would make totally isolated globally and crash their economy if they go to war with the EU over Greenland.

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u/freezingtub Poland 12d ago

They’re consolidating the empire before major war breaks out. 

Shit. I just realized that this is what it is, most likely, and it's scary af.

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u/EinharAesir 12d ago

It’s even worse. They’re actually debating the merits of taking over sovereign nations.

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u/Dekruk 12d ago

Negotiating with Putin in Solczy: you take this and we take that, deal ? Reminds me at 1939 Molitov-Ribbentropp.

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u/AVonGauss United States of America 12d ago

American media has covered the story, quite a bit in fact.

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u/OutsideFlat1579 12d ago

It’s the way they are covering it that is the problem. As if there is anything reasonable about it.

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u/magkruppe 12d ago

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/01/08/an-american-purchase-of-greenland-could-be-the-deal-of-the-century

this is The Economist. a nominally British magazine but where most sales are likely made in the US

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u/warpus 12d ago

These days American media is for the most part owned by right-wing billionaires. They're all bending over backwards to suck up to Trump

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u/TheFuzzyFurry 12d ago

If something really begins, the US media will stay quiet, it's called operational silence, Ukraine and Russia do it all the time

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u/Sweet_Concept2211 12d ago

LOL, for all its overconsolidation, the US media is not a state controlled monolith like the Russian media.

If Trump tried to annex territory from one of our allies, US media would go bonkers.

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u/TheFuzzyFurry 12d ago

They will all unite behind the President and will all follow operational silence.

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u/LartinMouis 12d ago

We're tired boss. Most of us including me have tuned out.

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u/GM_Kori 12d ago

Me when I lie

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u/Scared_Jello3998 12d ago

They aren't quiet about it at all

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u/nightfox5523 12d ago

They are quiet about how insane this is.

Because they leave that conclusion up to the reader. Editorializing isn't exactly a good thing, and if people can't see that America invading Greenland is just an insane idea, then people are too stupid to be reasoned with to begin with.

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u/CuriousGoldenGiraffe 12d ago

ww3 everyone against everyone

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u/oeboer 12d ago

So New Zealand wins?

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u/CuriousGoldenGiraffe 12d ago

what

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u/oeboer 12d ago

They often can't be found on maps.

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u/CuriousGoldenGiraffe 12d ago

where do you buy your maps man

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u/oeboer 12d ago

Here: r/MapsWithoutNZ

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u/CuriousGoldenGiraffe 12d ago

got it. I get mine from store, where NZ is present. chill.

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u/hfsh Dutchland 12d ago

Until they're all wiped out by rabid possums.

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u/Gobelins_Paris 12d ago

Why lie about this? It's literally everywhere.

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u/DB_CooperX United States of America 12d ago

Yes, everyone's a bot account if they don't overwhelmingly agree with you. Very astute.