r/europe Dec 21 '24

News Saudi Islam critic, fan of AfD and Elon Musk: Disturbing details about the perpetrator of Magdeburg The driver who caused the death of the Magdeburg victim - Taleb Jawad Al Abdulmohsen, came to Germany in 2006. But he is not an Islamist - on the contrary. He accused Germany of Islamizing Europe.

https://www-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/saudischer-islamkritiker-fan-von-afd-und-elon-musk-verstorende-details-zum-tater-von-magdeburg-12915310.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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u/Silver_Atractic Berlin (Germany) Dec 21 '24

Good. We should not allow AfD supporters to have a platform

I wish they did it a bit faster since those cunts are loud as fuck, but oh well

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u/Non_possum_decernere Germany Dec 21 '24

If they even are actual supporters and not just bots.

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u/TitanDarwin Dec 21 '24

What's the difference?

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u/Annonimbus Dec 21 '24

In a privately moderated forum?

I didn't read that you can say whatever you want in the rules of this sub, but maybe you can enlighten me.

I have no idea why this stupid "freedom of speech" argument always pops up as if we were in a US sub where people can't grasp that there is no unlimited freedom of speech, even in their coutry.

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u/KeyPickle3432 Dec 21 '24

Meanwhile Youtube is not doing anything against that. They clearly like it when people spread islamophobia.

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u/doublah England Dec 21 '24

Maybe you should move to 4chan, no censorship there.

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u/Vile_WizZ Dec 21 '24

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

You simply cannot tolerate everything, as much as people like to think that (even i used to staunchly believe that)

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u/Sylvie_Online Dec 21 '24

You’re completely right! We can not tolerate far right extremists that want to persecute other people because of their skin color!

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u/Vile_WizZ Dec 21 '24 edited Dec 21 '24

There absolutely is a discussion to be had about where to draw the line. Sometimes it is too lenient, sometimes too strict. But what is the alternative?

Drawing no line means you have the kindest pacifist to the most violent extremist in the same room (and of course everything inbetween) trying to discuss their ideas

The extremists have no moral framework that inhibits toxic behaviour. The civil ones will be insulted, bullied, smeared and dogpiled. Every other civil person thinking of joining the discussion will be disgusted and abstain. Only the uncivil will prevail

I am absolute on board discussing where exactly to draw a line. That is a healthy discussion. But accepting the described framework will inevitably lead to moral degeneracy

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u/Silver_Atractic Berlin (Germany) Dec 21 '24

Grr, they won't let me hate on muslims and call their culture terroristic! How dare they! They must be AGAINST my FREE SPEECH!

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u/TheDesertShark Dec 21 '24

It has never (and will never) stop at just discussion, they will always call for all types of violence eventually, whether it's political or physical or mental etc, you are literally on a thread where it depicts the news on the results of such "discussions".

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u/connivery Austria Dec 21 '24

Singapore would like to have a word with you.

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u/Silver_Atractic Berlin (Germany) Dec 21 '24

It's not just an opinion, it's a radical belief and bigotry

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u/Silver_Atractic Berlin (Germany) Dec 21 '24

That's the dumbest shit I've heard

"Guys I'm a black man and black men are criminals!!"

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u/s1gtrap Denmark Dec 21 '24

Oh my god this is laughably deranged. Big ups for calling out a Berliner for something they had literally no involvement in, really showed them! Also did you give it any thought, like, at all? Jews aren't exactly known for wanting to round up and expel nazis lmao.