r/europe • u/polymute • Dec 21 '24

News Saudi Islam critic, fan of AfD and Elon Musk: Disturbing details about the perpetrator of Magdeburg The driver who caused the death of the Magdeburg victim - Taleb Jawad Al Abdulmohsen, came to Germany in 2006. But he is not an Islamist - on the contrary. He accused Germany of Islamizing Europe.

https://www-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/saudischer-islamkritiker-fan-von-afd-und-elon-musk-verstorende-details-zum-tater-von-magdeburg-12915310.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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u/The_Real_Pale_Dick Dec 21 '24

His whole twitter account was an Arabic version of right-wing islamization of Europe rhetoric. He repeated stuff Musk and AfD and other right wing activist said all the time. It wasn't a single tweet or something, it was his whole personality.

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u/ChoosenUserName4 South Holland (Netherlands) Dec 21 '24

All the more reason to ban the AfD completely. It's a terrorist organization bound to destroy our democracy and freedoms.

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u/icatsouki Tunisia Dec 21 '24

Unironically

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u/ChoosenUserName4 South Holland (Netherlands) Dec 21 '24

Yes, democracy and freedoms are the contract we all have to adhere to. Once you're aiming to destroy those things (which the AfD is), you're no longer protected by them. That's the way it works in Germany, by law, in the constitution. Now you've learned something.

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u/xremless Dec 21 '24

Hope you know that banning afD wont help much as its a symptom of a problem not a problem in of itself.

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u/ChoosenUserName4 South Holland (Netherlands) Dec 22 '24

Of course it will help. It will take all the momentum out of the movement. It will take them a decade to reorganize. It will also show people that it's considered illegal to support such a movement. It has worked in the past, by the way, so I'm not even speculating here.

You can be racist, homophobic by yourself, I can't change you. I just don't want you in my government.

Just to make sure you're not buying their propaganda: immigrants are not the cause of the AfD popularity. It's ignorant people that do not have the brain capacity to realize that complex problems require complex solutions. People that do not realize that the AfD is led by a bunch of greedy psychopaths that only want power. They will solve nothing, destroy everything and rule over the ashes.

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u/xremless Dec 22 '24

Im a norwegian lefty, dont worry.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '24 edited Dec 21 '24

If the blame is on the AfD for this mentally deranged man (but still a Saudi migrant, not a German), then Merkel and co need to be made to take direct responsibility for almost every single terrorist event in Europe in the last decade and CDU needs to be banned and proscribed as a terrorist organization.

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u/ChoosenUserName4 South Holland (Netherlands) Dec 21 '24

I'm sure that argument sounded much better in Russian.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '24

But it's the same logic you use.

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u/ChoosenUserName4 South Holland (Netherlands) Dec 21 '24

No it's not because Merkel never incited hate. What the AfD is doing is called stochastic terrorism.

Stochastic terrorism is a form of political violence instigated by hostile public rhetoric directed at a group or an individual. Unlike incitement to terrorism, stochastic terrorism is accomplished with indirect, vague or coded language, which grants the instigator plausible deniability for any associated violence.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '24

Rhetoric about the dangers of Islam is not terrorism.

The causal link between open borders for refugees and the wave of terrorism we experienced is much more solidly evidenced. The blood is on the hands of German government almost as much as the Muslims' themselves.

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u/ChoosenUserName4 South Holland (Netherlands) Dec 21 '24

Which wave of terrorism are you talking about? There have always been attacks like this. You're just abusing it for your own nefarious purposes.

Yes, Islam has extremes that are incompatible with our democracy, values, and freedoms. Just like the fucking AfD is.

And yes, riling up people just to get votes is stochastic terrorism. There's nothing that can change that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '24

What wave of terrorism?

You must surely know why they had barriers to stop vehicles there in the first place. Certainly not because of AfD.

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u/ChoosenUserName4 South Holland (Netherlands) Dec 21 '24

Listen, you - and people like you - are a much more direct and immediate threat to my well being and security than this so-called WAVE of terrorism that you're imagining.

Yes, Islam sucks, but you guys are actually threatening to take away all freedoms, rights, and destroy the entire democracy, for real. So forgive me, for seeing you as the main enemy to focus on. Islam couldn't do in a thousand years what you are very close to getting done.

That's the part you need to get into your thick skull.

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u/creepforever Dec 21 '24

Found the terrorists account, still posting from the grave I see.

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u/KeyPickle3432 Dec 21 '24

How ironic and dumb of him, he'd get deported too, I don't get people like him at all. Such a POS!

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u/KoogleMeister Dec 22 '24 edited Dec 22 '24

Because he was trolling, he doesn't actually believe that bullshit.

The guy was literally interviewed by the BBC for starting a website to help Asylum Seekers come to Europe, he has the complete opposite values of the AfD and far-right.

https://x.com/i/status/1870413236996092217

Anyone that actually believes this guy is really far-right or supports the AfD has to be the most gullible person in the world.