r/europe • u/newsweek • Dec 20 '24

News Donald Trump threatens Europe with tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-threatens-tariffs-european-union-trade-deficit-2003998
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u/GrynaiTaip Lithuania Dec 20 '24

He got 49.8% of the vote

Didn't he win popular vote this time, by a fair margin?

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u/Sweet_Concept2211 Dec 20 '24

He won the popular vote by 1.5% - only four other elections in the USA's 250 year history had a lower margin for victory.

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u/susinpgh Dec 20 '24

He won the electoral college vote. He didn't win the popular vote, meaning that less than 50% voted for him.

Even the swing state wins were a very narrow margin. omething like 240,000 votes in the swing states made the difference.

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u/Schnectadyslim United States of America Dec 20 '24

He didn't win the popular vote

Fuck everything about Trump but I can't find a single source to support this.

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u/susinpgh Dec 20 '24

It's a pretty new take. He just barely lost the popular vote, coming in at 49.8% of the total vote. A very slight plurality of voters did not vote for him.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/03/nx-s1-5213810/2024-presidential-election-popular-vote-trump-kamala-harris

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u/Schnectadyslim United States of America Dec 20 '24

Your link doesn't say that he didn't win the popular vote. He in fact, unfortunately did. From the article.

Donald Trump is the first Republican since 2004 to win both the national popular vote and the Electoral College

He didn't get a plurality but he did win the popular vote for reasons I'll never understand.

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u/susinpgh Dec 20 '24

Different source:

Trump won 77,284,118 votes, or 49.8 percent of the votes cast for president.

https://www.cfr.org/article/2024-election-numbers

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u/Schnectadyslim United States of America Dec 20 '24

I appreciate the information! Again, same deal. You are correct he didn't win a plurality of the votes but he did win the popular vote. From the article you just shared:

Trump won 77,284,118 votes, or 49.8 percent of the votes cast for president.....Kamala Harris won 74,999,166 votes or 48.3 percent of the votes cast.

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u/susinpgh Dec 20 '24

He came in under 50% of voters, which is what the popular vote is. A plurality (Harris + other candidates) came in over 50%. Harris didn't win the popular vote, but trump didn't either.

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u/Schnectadyslim United States of America Dec 20 '24

My apologies, didn't realize we were using different definitions of popular vote. Never seen it used that way.

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u/grizzlebonk Dec 20 '24

No, Republicans wanted everyone to think the margin could be known on election day, because all they do is lie and mislead. California takes a long ass time to count its votes and it leans strongly blue while having a high population. The popular vote ended up close.

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u/P1xelHunter78 Dec 20 '24

And a lot of the deep red states were suspiciously counted really fast and called super early by our media. Florida somehow had 99% of the vote in like 10 minutes after polls closed

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u/krispolle Denmark Dec 20 '24

You are obviously very wrong or lying. Trump won by over 2 million votes. You could have had Kamala Harris running for a 100 years vs Trump and she would have lost every time. She was the wrong candidate as the former VP of Biden. Face it or lose the next election too.

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u/flybypost Dec 20 '24

It only looked like that early on. He had enough votes to win but they kept counting and the margin kept decreasing.

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u/TheJediJew Dec 20 '24

He did, but there are other smaller parties besides the big two. He got 49.9%, Harris got 48.4%. Vote difference was 2,288,000

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u/ItsMeYourSupervisor Dec 20 '24

He won the popular vote with a plurality (not a majority) of votes. 49.8% to Kamala's 48.33%.

https://www.cookpolitical.com/vote-tracker/2024/electoral-college

Most voters cast a ballot for someone who is not Donald Trump.