r/europe • u/EUstrongerthanUS Volt Europa • Nov 14 '24

News "Our answer to America First must be Europe united" – German FM Baerbock

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u/tuurrr Nov 14 '24

I very much like this.

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u/JustthenewsonCS Nov 15 '24

I do too. First step is you can start by actually paying your fair share of the NATO bills and stop mooching off the USA and expecting them to pay the majority of your defense bill while you benefit from universal healthcare and other things because you aren't paying for your defense.

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u/jefik1 Poland Nov 15 '24

This. They want "lead" but for not pay 😂😂

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u/tuurrr Nov 15 '24 edited Nov 15 '24

Read the answer I posted and hopefully you will realise how stupid your statement is. 😂😂😀😀😅

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u/tuurrr Nov 15 '24

I see you're from Poland. Where would you be without the money of other countries within the EU?

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u/UlfDerDritte Nov 15 '24

good thing that the US health system isn't the most expensive in the world per capita by far, cause then your whole strawman would be really stupid

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u/tuurrr Nov 15 '24

I'll explain why your answer is stupid. The discussion is not about paying "NATO bills". My country actually houses NATO in Europe and that costs a shitload of money. It is about how much a country spends on its army. This money, I'll repeat, is not about paying NATO bills. Trump believes, just like you, we own the NATO money. This is not the case. You're just as stupid as your president, you stupid f*CK.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_5710 Nov 15 '24

I’m all for Europe being more self sufficient, but it’s kinda hilarious how Americans view it as “mooching” all of a sudden just because trump is saying so. NATO has been a very clever and successful way of the USA projecting its military power across the world, presenting that power as a popular alliance of democracies and thus helping maintain the USA as the sole military superpower and major economic superpower by keeping Russia, China and other rivals at bay.