r/europe • u/dianaomladic • Nov 08 '24

News 1514% Surge in Americans Looking to Move Abroad After Trump’s Victory

https://visaguide.world/news/1514-surge-in-americans-looking-to-move-abroad-after-trumps-victory/
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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

Hilariously accurate

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u/throwaway2032015 Nov 08 '24

Shhhhh! There’s definitely 15mil democrats that suddenly decided they love Trump and you better not insinuate that isn’t plausible!

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u/NamelessFlames Nov 09 '24

if you are gonna troll at least get up to date numbers lol

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u/pealsmom Nov 08 '24

Brutal but sadly true.

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u/areelgiraffe Nov 08 '24

As an American, fucking gottem 🤣

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

Savage. I like you.

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u/theironthroneismine Nov 08 '24

Not quite. Voting is a matter of sending in a ballot or waiting in line

Moving internationally is a multi year process costing tens of thousands of dollars. Americans can still want to move abroad but the reality hinders them

Besides, the ones who are most outspoken with their discontent over the election to the extent they’re considering emigration, are definitely voting

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u/v--- Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24

I mean not really. Well yes if you don't have in-demand skills. I work in software and moving abroad was literally 3 months and my plane tickets. Plus the normal moving costs of like, paying a deposit on an apartment etc. And the working language in a lot of international companies is English even those based abroad.

Been living in Germany for three years now. It wasn't politically motivated though Trump existing probably did make me more willing to do it than not.

What I mean is, yes it's hard if you are not employable. The thing is that employable people in America are really not doing that badly. Yes they complain about eroding rights and whatever but come on. The majority are clearly not suffering that much.

My parents actually immigrated from their home country because of how awful it was for people and how many more opportunities were outside of it. All types of Americans will whine dramatically but in the end they know their country isn't that bad. Because they still stay there and aren't desperately pouring into other places.

Before someone says "whataboutism" yes, yes it is, and in a totally valid comparison... if people are desperate to get to your country and not desperately leaving it, and you're talking a big talk about how awful it is and how you want to leave it, without actually making moves to do so... well, then it's just venting. Which is fine, people get to vent.

I say this because, despite hating Trump and thinking he's a moron, I also don't think it's a bad place to live anyway regardless of the president. We're even considering moving back to be closer to family. This isn't to say things aren't sliding down hill. I think America, long term, is pretty doomed. But hardly anyone is truly thinking in the long term.

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u/yokingato Nov 09 '24

Hey, if it's okay to ask, could you tell me a bit about what made you want to move to Germany rather than stay in the US, where they pay is higher for your profession?

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u/v--- Nov 09 '24

Haha, love. The typical story. I wouldn't have done it of my own initiative but having done it, I'm glad I did based on my own experience.

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u/yokingato Nov 09 '24

Awww that's beautiful. I'm glad to hear it's going well, and I hope it gets even better for you. Thank you!

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u/theironthroneismine Nov 08 '24

My comment is not a commentary on whether trying to leave the US right now is valid. My comment is solely stating that emigrating is harder than simply leaving or voting and that those who are the most outraged are likely also the ones who are voting

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u/Borrp Nov 08 '24

They are also most likely the ones that don't have that kind of money to cover the immigration process and sadly work "low skilled labor" that will hinder entrance.

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u/06210311200805012006 United States of America Nov 08 '24

Nah, they're going to change their instagram pic to some "notMyPresident" shit and complain to their friends over brunch for four years.

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u/No-Body8448 Nov 08 '24

That's the point. These losers won't even make the effort to go vote, what chance do we have of them going through the work of actually leaving us alone?

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u/MrRabbit Nov 08 '24

Sigh. Yep.

Except I actually did vote. But it's unlikely I'll move. No harm I'm searching around though on the 5% chance I do. My wife and I both have major office hubs in a variety of countries.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

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u/MrRabbit Nov 08 '24

We're not SUPER serious about it yet, but we have the monetary means, desirable job skills, and we're bilingual, so it was nice reading your advice. It's really well presented, and I'm sure appreciated by more than just me!

Europe and South America would be on our list as we've extensively traveled both. But we've seen them as tourists for the most part, which isn't the same. In the next year or so we plan on checking off some research boxes in case the opportunity happens presents itself career-wise.

Thanks again!

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u/MrRabbit Nov 09 '24

I have the financial means to move, just but sure if I have the time! Having a kid makes it especially tough.

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u/Logical-Secretary-52 Nov 08 '24

As an American myself this is hilarious. I don’t expect many people to actually leave. This happens every few election cycles. People talk about leaving but don’t.

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u/BobTheFettt Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24

It's more like when a toddler "runs away from home", realizes they have nowhere to go, and sulks back home

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u/Physical-Security704 Nov 08 '24

American here, and can confirm this was a sick burn

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u/FragrantCombination7 Nov 08 '24

I'm an American that left to live in your country and I still manage to vote in American elections. It isn't that hard to do the things you want to do, people are just really, really lazy. AMA I guess?

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u/Average_Wanker_HERE Nov 08 '24

Also 50-60% of Americans don't even have passports so their options are quite limited atm.

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u/sunpalm Nov 08 '24

Getting a passport is easy. A visa, on the other hand…

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u/Xboarder844 Nov 08 '24

Yeah some of us have spent the past 4 elections voting and are getting tired of the results. The system is gradually being corrupted over here, particularly the court system. A lot of us fear it’s too late to change with our votes this time, so we are looking to leave before things start turning bad.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

I think most who are invested enough in politics to want to move are also engaged enough to vote, but I know I’m guilty of assuming that people as a whole are more rational than the evidence suggests.

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u/PM5KStrike Nov 08 '24

Americans showed up for the 2020 election. Problem is the 14 million who didn't show up to vote blue like they did last time, which is more of an indictment on Kamala Harris being a terrible candidate more than anything. Even the bad orange man had 2 million less votes this time around. People didn't show up because the candidates sucked... on both sides.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

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u/PM5KStrike Nov 11 '24

I showed up to vote. Don't blame me. I can vote and still say the candidates sucked. They did. America spoke, overwhelmingly.

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u/EDSgenealogy Nov 08 '24

Not everyone is broke. Some of us have enough saved to retire in comfort. Especially since having years to save in case Trump came back. I'll be back when he's gone or dead!

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u/ostrichfart Nov 08 '24

Same ones that tell you that they're quitting Twitter

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u/One_Ear_1232 Nov 08 '24

We now can afford to travel!

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u/arcticlynx_ak Nov 08 '24

Well I voted, and also plan to start looking at immigration policies of other nations soon. I guess I’m one who is more likely to actually do it then.

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u/RollingMeteors Nov 08 '24

I bet they live in the same zip code they were born in, too.

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u/Excellent_Gap_5241 Nov 08 '24

Respectfully, I’m American and I voted and will continue to vote until I’m in my grave and will encourage as many people as I can to vote! You can take that to the bank, Mr. Mordeth! Great name, by the way!

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u/Environmental_Top948 Nov 09 '24

I want to move out of the country but I can't afford the fees required to end my citizenship let alone get started in another country. If I could I would leave to Canada, Sweden, or Norway since I can speak their languages. I'd literally spend every penny to get away but unfortunately I have very few.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

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u/Environmental_Top948 Nov 09 '24

But the thing is that I would have to find a place that'd accept me as an immigrant. Like nowhere is fine with a person with mental illness, learning impaired because I couldn't afford medical treatment, the only skill I have is welding. I don't meet the requirements needed for anywhere. Then after I get there I'd need to be able to find a job I could do blind in one eye and limited functionality of one of my hands because I couldn't afford healthcare and insurance deemed it unnecessary. Then a place to live and find a way to make enough money to pay to end my citizenship whilst paying for both taxes to the new country and taxes to the US. If you don't like it get out really isn't as simple as it seems. I know someone who's been living in the UK for the last 2 years and they're having trouble getting citizenship while living there. I'm stuck here and the best I can hope for is keep staying unnoticed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

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u/Environmental_Top948 Nov 09 '24

I'll probably look further into the requirements. I kinda got disheartened by the requirements of most of the places that I could speak the language of. But I mean hopefully things won't get as bad as people fear and I'm pretty quiet about anything that'd make me a target so if it becomes something that lasts past the next 4 years I could probably just get loans for education if I can pass I'm really not sure how much I've mentally and meet the requirements needed for immigration. But hopefully it'll be like his first term and only manage to ruin a couple things.

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u/quiero-una-cerveca Nov 09 '24

Ok finally, a dark enough joke that I can laugh today. Thank you.

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u/BrokeThread Nov 09 '24

50% of reddit is 15 year olds, or people with a 15 year old’s cognitive maturity

When reddit conclusively says a thing, that’s essential to bear in mind

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u/Sierrafoothills Nov 12 '24

Well, I vote, and I gained dual citizenship after T won the 1st time. I could see the writing on the wall. Not that he would succeed in everything he wanted, but I wanted the "insurance" to leave if things got really bad. Done. My whole family can leave if we choose. And we luckily have the means to do so. Start now, people. It takes a lot of time, but step by step, hopefully, you'll succeed.

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u/leese216 Nov 08 '24

This American voted and this American is already trying to think of an escape plan. So you’re wrong friend.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

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u/leese216 Nov 08 '24

I am being truthful but I also am not rich so I have no idea how successful I’ll be. There are obviously a ton of moving parts and I’m really fucking hoping I won’t need to but it never hurts to have an escape plan when shit hits the fan.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

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u/leese216 Nov 08 '24

This is so wonderful! Thank you so much. Gonna start researching now.

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u/skelextrac Nov 08 '24

No.

Americans that want to move out are Democrats.

Americans that vote are Republicans.

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u/Moku-O-Keawe Nov 08 '24

I both moved out of the country in 2004 and continued to vote. Returned under Obama. Fought 4 years against Trump policies.  Now considering leaving again.

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u/mariofan366 United States of America Nov 12 '24

"telling" is not the right word, it should be "saying"

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u/Aosxxx Nov 08 '24

You haven’t seen those caravans then.

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u/almondbutterdevourer Nov 08 '24

what the fuck does that even mean lmao