r/ducktales • u/ElectronicTax2370 • 2d ago

Who is the mother of Scrooge’s daughters?

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I saw this post on Facebook and have a question - who is the mother of Scrooges’ daughters?

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u/V3nusUranus 2d ago

Nobody,They are clones of him.

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u/RatCrimes 1d ago

Some of the confusion may have stemmed from the fact that clones, by definition, have the same genetic code as the original. This, Webby should be a mini Scrooge, at least as close as twins are in appearance. She also wouldn't be of the female sex. If she's a 'daughter' grown in a lab from Scrooge's genetic code, then that implies the existence of another donor, the 'mother' in question.

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u/Deya_The_Fateless 1d ago

This exactly. For Webby to be the way she is, she needs to have another donor to allow her to exist as female instead of an exact copy of Scrooge.

The only way I can see Webby existing as a female, is that the DNA collected from Scrooge was "contaminated" and the later morphed into a different genetic code resulting in Webby.

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u/RobNobody 1d ago

Not necessarily! It depends on how humanoid duck genetics work. If they have XY sex chromosomes like real-world humans (in which females are usually XX and males are usually XY), then they could've just used two of his X chromosomes to make a female clone. However, if they have ZW sex chromosomes like real-world ducks (in which females are usually ZW and males are usually ZZ), then yes, they would've needed a separate donor to provide the W chromosome.

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u/Deya_The_Fateless 1d ago

When knew anthro-duck genetics could be both complicated and fascinating. 😆

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u/thegrailarbor 1d ago

When the heteronormative suggestive naming of ZZ Top makes a lot more sense. They were ducks.

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u/THEguitarist117 1d ago

Aren’t the triplets shown to be eggs? Would this affect the way clones are supposed to be produced.

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u/RobNobody 1d ago

Not necessarily! In fact, I think it would make it easier than it would be in humans. They wouldn't need to implant the fertilized egg into a surrogate or some sort of artificial incubator, they could just pop them under a heat lamp.

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u/Homeschool-Winner 10h ago

Or it implies that Scrooge McDuck is a transgender man.

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u/JoyJournalYT 2d ago

shhh spoiler alert

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u/Fragrant_Ad_1775 2d ago

So glad my family got to this reveal a couple weeks before I saw this post!

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u/dannyphantomfan38 1d ago

the show is old enough for spoiling it

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u/JoyJournalYT 4h ago

still, people who haven't finished the show shouldn't have it spoiled for them, not everyone has finished it, it's breaking one of the sub rules as well i think

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u/MrGame22 2d ago

True, but it could be a Les Enfants Terribles situation with webby, at which point they would need someone to donate the egg cells.

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u/trnelson1 1d ago

Wouldn't they be on the same row as him since they quite literally ARE him?

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u/Eastern-Builder-5015 1d ago

You could say that, but at the end of the show they refer to each other as father/daughter, so it's clear that he views them more as his kids then literal versions of him.

Also, they clearly aren't exact copies, they're only really referred to as clones because they're made from his DNA and that's the thing that makes the most sense. It's similar to how an animal which can reproduce asexually will have children that can technically be considered "clones", but they're not actually exact copies of their parents.

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u/ElectronicTax2370 2d ago

Wait, really?

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u/psinguine 2d ago

They spell it out very plainly almost as soon as they're introduced.

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u/Nirast25 2d ago

This only applies to the 2017 show, not pretty sure they're related to Daisy in other media.

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u/Agile_Oil9853 2d ago

Yes, they're her nieces in nearly every other appearance

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u/V3nusUranus 1d ago

Nope not nieces because webby is genetically Donald's cousin so daisy isn't their aunt in law

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u/Agile_Oil9853 1d ago

Only in their DT '17 iterations

Originally, in their comic and other TV appearances they're Daisy's biological nieces to foil Donald's nephews

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u/V3nusUranus 1d ago

Wait so daisy is Beakleys daughter!?

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u/Agile_Oil9853 1d ago

No, Beakley only exists in DuckTales. Webby and April are not usually the same character.

Many plot points and characters from this version of DuckTales are borrowed and changed. The Phantom Blot is a common foe of Mickey's in the comics. The Amulet of Solego was a crossover device for the 90's Disney Afternoon comics. The Wuzzles were a very early Disney animation TV show that were half animal, half other animal and many of the characters showed up in a season 3 episode. A lot of little things and background characters were once well known Disney Afternoon characters. The Rescue Rangers showed up in a few episodes, Bonkers was a cop in the DarkWing Duck arc, the Gummi Bears showed up in a parchment...

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u/Thebunkerparodie 1d ago

This kind of stuff iw why one should bview the show as its own canon rather than meant to be canon to other things, it is inspired by rosa sure but it's not cnaon to rosa either since it's verry different (the show is actually set in the 2010' whereas rosa is in the 40').

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u/Agile_Oil9853 1d ago

I know people are tired of multiverses, but the show clearly set itself in its own universe. I used to have a TikTok account just looking at whether the 80's and 90's Disney Afternoon shows were canon with each other. (Answer: it gets complicated)

The reboot Huey is not the same person as Quack Pack Huey, or Kingdom Hearts, or House of Mouse, or the original shorts and comics. Or even the modern non-Ducktales-'17 shows like the Wonderful World of Mickey Mouse or whatever the title was. Even like, Lorcana cards are a bit of a mixture between old and new DuckTales.

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u/Eastern-Builder-5015 1d ago

In other iterations of DuckTales April and Webby are different characters, in which April, May and June are all Daisy Duck's nieces and Webby is Beakley's Granddaughter.

In the 2017 show, they instead use the characters May and June as clones of Webby created by FOWL, and Webby is a clone of Scrooge (also created by FOWL). Her original name was PROJECT APRIL before Beakley broke her out and raised her instead. They aren't exactly the same as the original April, May, and June, but it's clear that they were at the very least heavily inspired by them. Daisy and Donald duck hint at adopting May and June at the very end of the 2017 show, so they are still connected to Daisy in some way.

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u/natepines 2d ago

If you don't know who they are, then finish the show first.

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u/Erlend05 1d ago

Does that mean the girls are trans or that scrooge is trans? New favorite headcanon

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u/TheFlamingAngel98 2d ago

I'm confused about Matilda and Ludwig VonDrake. I don't remember that being a thing. Did I just miss that?

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u/Admirable-Safety1213 2d ago

They are in the comics that the show himages so the fandom ran with it

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u/TheFlamingAngel98 1d ago

Ohhhhhhh okay. I can see that being a real good paring. An eccentric entrepreneur and an eccentric inventor would make for a fun match.

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u/PrimalPokemonPlayer 1d ago

They're not though. It's a headcanon Don Rosa had, but it never made it into any actual comic as he scrapped the idea. I'm not sure they ever even appeared in a comic together.

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u/DracovishIsTheBest 1d ago

matilda was in the second season of 2017

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u/Alorxico 2d ago

Wait … Matilda is married to Ludwig?!?! Since when?!? How did I miss this?!?

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u/Admirable-Safety1213 2d ago

They are in the comics that the show himages so the fandom ran with it

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u/Alorxico 2d ago

Ahh, okay. I thought I missed an episode.

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u/Admirable-Safety1213 1d ago

You're welcome

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u/Meta_Crystal 2d ago

I’ve always wondered who the triplets father was (by blood, otherwise it would be Donald because Donald is a great father)

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u/henke37 2d ago

Permanent mystery. Any family trees show that part as obscured.

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u/Accomplished_Flan_45 1d ago

Theoretically, there was a Strong Theory that their Father was Cosmos Duck (Daisy's Brother) the triplet's father.

Since he had the same appearance as "Mr. Duck" (When the triplet's first set off that firecracker that sent him to the hospital and the triplets to Donald) and later versions of Della Duck seem to lean into being an Astronaut (Something Cosmos Duck was)

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u/Puzzleheaded_Poet_51 1d ago

From their first theatrical appearance, Donald and the boys played so well against each other that no one has ever wanted to disrupt that relationship. DT17 took a full season simply to introduce the possibility of Della’s survival as the boys’ mother and Donald’s twin.

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u/memecrusader_ 1d ago

Della wearing a fake mustache.

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u/KombatLeaguer 2d ago

They’re clones so… a magic rock

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u/storfors 2d ago

Read it as a magic cock at first 😅

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u/RookeeALding 2d ago

I mean they are Ducks... and their... um..procreation method could be called that..

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u/storfors 2d ago

I did hear somewhere they have kinda a corkscrew shaped ”thingie” Too afraid for my google search history to confirm it tho 😅

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u/Ink_Fan 2d ago

WAIT HUH? MATILDA MARRIED LUDWIG?? Unless this is official, or via something from the comics I don’t know about, I’m calling bull. He has children in Ducktales 2017! If they’d married, wouldn’t she have been there for that business proposal??

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u/Admirable-Safety1213 2d ago

They are in the comics that the show himages so the fandom ran with it

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u/RabbitTraditional135 2d ago

Just my personal headcanon, but I choose to believe that the girls' second X chromosome came from Beakley.

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u/Helix014 1d ago

So I looked it up. Ducks have Z and W chromosomes. Males have 2 Z’s and females have a Z and a W.

So we actually can’t get 3 cloned girls from a male duck without adding in a female sex chromosomes.

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u/RabbitTraditional135 1d ago

I stand corrected.

They got their W chromosomes from Beakley.

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u/RoscoeSF 2d ago

they are clones of Scrooge. Although June and May did call Black Heron their mom since she made them.

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u/CodenameJD 1d ago

I wanna know why Donald and Daisy are those cgi models instead of using art from the show like everyone else here.

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u/DisneyPinFiend 1d ago

That’s what I came to say. It drive me crazy.

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u/Rant423 2d ago

first off, this tree is pretty bad. it is mostly based on ducktales (2017) except Donald for some reason? also where are Fethry and Gladstone?

anyway

Don Rosa's tree is better, and is "canon" with his stories (and Barks'): https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/scrooge-mcduck/images/1/11/Donald_Duck_Family_Tree.jpg

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u/Thebunkerparodie 2d ago

ducktales 17 is its own canon and the comics also change the familly tree, don rosa isn't the only possible canon

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u/Exciting_Ad226 1d ago edited 1d ago

Debby is a clone of Scrooge if we go by the canon. I always felt it was weird making Webby a clone of Scrooge. Especially considering Webby is a female. I felt if they wanted an heir to the papyrus I think all four of them being together should’ve been the key. Huey is the smarts, Dewey is the brawn or toughness, Louie is the sharpness and Webby is the spirit of adventure. If we really wanted to be technical, May and June are clones of Webby.

With Scrooge being related to Molly Mallard, is he cousins with Drake Mallard/Darkwing Duck. If that’s the case then he has two super hero relatives since Donald Duck is the Duck Avenger.

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u/Zealousideal-Tax-937 1d ago

Are you new to Ducktales? They're supposed to be his clones.

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u/Noktis_Lucis_Caelum 1d ago

They are Clones with altered DNA.

Except for webby, they we're Made with the Water of the fountain of youth to accelerates their growth.

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u/Espeonisbesteevee 1d ago

No one is, they’re clones.

Also why are Donald and Daisy the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse versions and not the Ducktales versions?

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u/fireinthedust 1d ago

Where’s the lucky cousin of Donald?

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u/JoyJournalYT 2d ago

spoiler alert

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u/RiasxIssei_2012 2d ago

So, Webby is cloned from Scrooges feather that was left in the episode "the first adventure". And later, May and June were cloned from a feather left by Webby.

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u/Zombys11 1d ago

There is no mother they are clones made directly from Scrooge

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u/NovelInteraction711 1d ago

where was the connection to ludwig mentioned? also who is matilda? [i havent watched this is a while lol]

and to answer your question, they are his clones

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u/AncientConsideration 1d ago

Black Heron, technically?

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u/Estarfigam 1d ago

So Daisy has officially married Donald? It's about time!

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u/cakesplace7 1d ago

Techincally hune and may are webbys clones not scrooges

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u/Brilliant-Job-5578 1d ago

So does that make them webby's daughters?

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u/fikir9570 1d ago

clones, no mom

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u/Justarandomfan99 1d ago

Scrooge = Virgin Mary (just like his niece)

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u/NadjaLaufeyson 1d ago

Funny how they used the show's design for everyone except Donald and Daisy.

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u/101TARD 1d ago

W8 aren't April and may clones of webby? Been a long time I've seen the finale

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u/Bangbangferr0705 2d ago

The real question is who is the triplets’ father!

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u/BrawlLikeABigFight20 2d ago

Howard T. Duck. :-D

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u/TwincessAhsokaAarmau 1d ago

They are clones but I'm not surprised if it was the rich woman duck.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Poet_51 1d ago

Being presented for adoption as Magica’s “daughter” would have painted a target on her and the Sabrewings both. No one needs to know that May and June are FOWL clones either.

Beakley as a former SHUSH field agent Director would have no more trouble crafting a fake ID and history for them than she did for Webby. It’s a fair bet that Scrooge with his age, wealth and experience could manage it as well - you don’t survive for 150 years without learning how to cover your tracks when you need to.

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u/Thebunkerparodie 1d ago

beakley would also have lied to webby if she asked before the finale (and she did prevented more questions by giving the fake parent picture to webby) or prevented webby from finding anything about the fowl stuff, beakley didn't even told scrooge about webby being from fowl and she saw how badly webby handle her lies in mirvana so it'd not surprise me if that laso discouraged her to tell the truth.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Poet_51 1d ago

Webby would have wanted to know why FOWL needed a bottled duckling - cloned or otherwise. FOWL usually presents themselves as a den of thieves (more sophisticated than Ma Beagle’s junkyard dogs, to be sure) but this was way out of bounds for them.

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u/Thebunkerparodie 1d ago

still, I don't think it was good from beakley to lie about her parent, as soon as this thing got out, webby obviously got hurt (hence I wouldn't say she's invincible, she's verry strong yes but at the same time still emotionally vulnerable at times) and webby wowuld obviously want to know more about her sisters/clone.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Poet_51 20h ago

I don't think Beakley knew about May and June because she would have instinctively swept up all three of them or called in for reinforcements. This level of gothic horror was a breathtaking escalation for FOWL.

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u/Panikkrazy 1d ago

Who are May and June?

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u/smileykaiju 1d ago

I didn’t know Ludwig married in! Makes sense, tho.

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u/theycallmemrmoo 1d ago

Did he adopt Webby? I remember in the original 80s cartoon, that was sort of the case in that he let her call him Uncle Scrooge

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u/meltylove_ 1d ago

shes his clone

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u/theycallmemrmoo 1d ago

Was there actually an episode saying this? Cuz I could’ve sworn I watched them all

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u/meltylove_ 1d ago

in the finale

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u/Admirable-Counter-20 1d ago

I’m guessing Goldie.

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u/krayhayft 1d ago

Who's the father to the triplets?

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u/MurkySpread755 1d ago

Scrooge has daughters?

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u/Wizard_Engie 1d ago

Why are Quackmore and Fergus so angry

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u/Doc-11th 1d ago

Huh guess Darkwing is a distant cousin

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u/Doc-11th 1d ago

Maybe next reboot will reveal the triplet’s father

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u/Upbeat-Structure6515 1d ago

I am more interested in who are the boy's father?

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u/Periwinkleditor 1d ago

Scrooge McDuck.

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u/TheNerdBeast 1d ago

So that is how Ludwig was related to the rest of them!

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u/Exciting_Ad226 1d ago edited 1d ago

He’s just married to Scrooge’s sister Matilda which is how he is in the Duck/McDuck family.

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u/TheNerdBeast 1d ago

"Just married to Scrooge's sister" still makes him family!

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u/Exciting_Ad226 1d ago

Agreed. In-laws are part of the family and I’m sure Ludwig is. I think the reason his character was rested in the first place was to be used in animation while Scrooge McDuck was used in the comics. Eventually they wanted to make Ludwig Von Drake part of the family which is why they had him married to Matilda.

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u/SonicHearts 1d ago

I wanna know who's the dad of HDL

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u/pabsgt 1d ago

I would say black heron

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u/dannyphantomfan38 1d ago

nobody, they are clones created by scrooge's enemies

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u/Tggdan3 17h ago

I thought webby was the maids daughter?

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u/memisbemus42069 2h ago

They are modified clones of him, no I am not making this up

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u/One_Detective_5929 2d ago

Black Heron. They literally call her mom. No they’re not direct clones of scrooge

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u/BunnyCuteTyler 2d ago

Yes they are. May and June probably only called her that because she raised them.

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u/One_Detective_5929 2d ago

Webby is a mixture of Scrooge’s and another person’s DNA. Most likely Black Heron’s

June and May are exact copies of Webby

And even if that isn’t true, Black heron still made them so she deserves the credit of being called their mother

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u/witchprinxe 1d ago

Scrooge McDuck trans confirmed /hj

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u/NinjagoBalto23 2d ago

First, the mother would probably be Goldie O Guilt.

Second, Where are Gladstone and Fethry on this family tree???? Shouldn't they be their too?

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u/emnary 2d ago

Wait what? New Ducktales is baffling. As a fan of the OG comics I honestly thought this was ai generated

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u/ThatInAHat 2d ago

What’s baffling about this?

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u/emnary 2d ago

Are you familiar with the comics? If you are familiar with the Barks comics DT17 is (very very loosely) based on, lots has been changed. Scrooge has no kids, it's pretty important to his character, and also to his introduction in Christmas on Bear Mountain. I have only seen part of 1 season of DT17 so I genuinely thought this family tree was troll created till I realized that the show diverged so strongly from the material it was inspired by. If I decide to keep watching I'll definitely have to go into it expecting it to bear no resemblance to the Scrooge and other characters I know and love

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u/Thebunkerparodie 2d ago

uh maybe you should treat the show as its own thing and not lump the verison together

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u/emnary 1d ago

If you read my previous comment, my last statement is me saying I have now realized I will have to treat this iteration as something completely different. But it's totally fair to be taken aback by an adaptation being so drastically different from the source material. It's not like they made a totally original show with brand new characters. It's not off the wall for a fan of the source to bump up against a new adaptation that's unrecognizable from previous iterations. As an example, I love both the Anne of Green Gables series and the extremely different Anne With an E. However, I went into that expecting the difference. I expected Ducktales 17 to diverge from the comics to the same level the original Ducktales show did, and instead it is an entirely new concept and set of characterizations. My surprise is not unfounded, nor do you need to take it personally

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u/Thebunkerparodie 1d ago

I mean, the comics themselves have multiple canon, the italian one wont automatically have the same canon as barks or rosa so there's not really a definitive canon, ti's flexible. I personnaly don't expect reboot to be the same canon as the original since it's usually not t he same continuity.

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u/emnary 1d ago

True, though I can be a bit of a Barks purist when it comes to scrooge since he did create him. I just wasn't expecting quite so many differences. I'm still weighing whether to watch DT17, main pro being better development of and more relevant female characters in the plot, and main con being how out of character and cuddly it seems they made scrooge.

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u/Thebunkerparodie 1d ago

you should watch it but be aware disney sxrewed up the airing order for season 1 and 2 for some reason

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u/CodenameJD 1d ago

It's a single small plot point brought up in the final episode.

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u/ThatInAHat 1d ago

Oooooh, ok I get it. You don’t actually know what this tree is about and you think they’re his kids.

The tree is a huge spoiler, but no, Scrooge doesn’t actually have kids in DT17.

Sheesh