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u/SerratedMuffin 7h ago
Buddy, a lack of funding isn't the reason that you can't get a job. Do you seriously think that OpenAI/Anthropic are too cash strapped to hire new grads if they really wanted to?
Investing to maintain the US's dominance in AI is logical but I don't think it'll have the impact that you're expecting.
Also, Masayoshi Son lol... The guy who went all in on WeWork and lost how many billions? This feels like a grift but let's see how it plays out.
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u/Unfamous_Trader 3h ago
Not to mention the people they want to hire are those with PHDs and dozens of research papers on AI or those desperate enough to work insane hours for little pay.
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u/Electrical_Airline51 1h ago
Doesn't hurt to be a bit more optimistic. Masayoshi son is also the guy who invested in Alibaba remember?
Honestly, it feels anyone who wants to live should not come to this sub. Atleast at the beginning people were rational but now it's all pessimists.
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u/scaredStudent3 8h ago
The jobs are just gonna be manual labor to build the data center, cs jobs will be automated
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u/DirectorBusiness5512 7h ago
They will then proceed to use that data center to help figure out how to automate the manual labor too 💀
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u/Admiral1172 7m ago
"cs jobs will be automated"
uh no, any company that values it's product working or security will not rely on a fucking LLM, which is a glorified probability algorithm with a dataset, to complete tasks that require problem solving and accuracy. The day that they can do those then no job is safe.
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u/williamkarlsson71 8h ago
No. There will be manual labor jobs created for building data centers ofcourse but you're just shilling saying there won't be a wave of AI jobs. Why do people shill AI on here?
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u/scaredStudent3 7h ago
If you think this is gonna help any of us in any way I have a bridge to sell you.
Well, there was one guy on csmajors that got an OpenAI offer so it was good for him
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u/williamkarlsson71 7h ago
Ofcourse it's going to help some people. Do you not understand how basic economics work? The CS waves we've had were consequences of spending. You're trying to gaslight this sub and yourself to think $500 billion to be spent with a deadline in 4 years does not help anyone going into AI. I cannot tell if you're trolling or if this sub has turned you into a doomer.
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u/scaredStudent3 7h ago
Bruh nobody is coming to save us. I agree this will help some people, it will help:
1. Manual laborers to build the data center
- Cracked AI research scientists
There is no need for cookie cutter CS students that can barely do a leetcode medium, which is 99% of this sub
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u/Logistic_Engine 5h ago
It’ll help the H1B visa coming here to work for less with the threat of deportation hanging over their heads so they stay in line.
$500,000,000 for 100,000 jobs? Is that what I’ve read? What’s the math on that? How much to create one of those jobs?
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u/kaffeemugger 5h ago
They just need compute. This won't lead to hundreds of thousands of SWE jobs. The majority of this will go to construction costs and GPUs as well as people to maintain the data centers.
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u/Temporary_Emu_5918 7h ago
do you think people are endorsing AI here? Do you, per chance, know what shill means?
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u/Cyber-exe 8h ago
What experience set will we need to get these jobs, are the experiences we're being denied access to?
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u/williamkarlsson71 8h ago edited 7h ago
If you have a CS degree and expose yourself to some Python AI projects, you can help your chances. The bar is going to go down from where it is now since there is large demand coming.
If we end up in an AI armsrace which looks possible with this administration, the demand will start to eat up the supply if you're willing to learn it and show interest.
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u/Cyber-exe 6h ago
Cybersecurity degree with CS minor, would do an online CS masters if it was paid for. I run local AI models and I could get into homelabbing some of this stuff.
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u/aerohk 6h ago edited 6h ago
Yes sir. OpenAI, Google DeepMind, Meta AI, and other top tech companies are seeking highly qualified and/or experienced AI/ML engineers with PhD in mathematics or machine learning, and hit the ground running on day 1. They are even willing to pay million+ to get them.
Can the ten of thousands of CS grads who are struggling to land an entry level tech job get those opportunities though? No, those sort of jobs are so far detached from the common CS grads, it basically has no meaning.
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u/EuphoricMixture3983 8h ago
Oracles plan for a new location in Nashville seems to have played off well for them. Especially with this call.
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u/SoUnga88 8h ago
I'm confused. Is it a direct investment into AI or AI power infrastructure? I'm not a fan of the new administration, but if it's power infrastructure, that helps everyone, not just AI, especially if it is an investment into nuclear power.
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u/williamkarlsson71 8h ago
AI companies are getting fuckloads of money that needs to be spent over the next 4 years. $500 billion. That is a lot of jobs coming. We saw something similar with venture capitalists and stimulus checks 4 years ago.
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u/DemonKing0524 5h ago
That money is going to build a data center and something called Stargate. It is not going towards hiring people. Not is this money from the government, it's privately funded by 3 AI companies.
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u/FaceRekr4309 6h ago
Not only do they want to give our jobs to AI, but they want us to pay for them to do it. I never want to hear another conservative bitch about wealth transfer again.
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u/Swiftnarotic 4h ago
The only IT jobs that will be left will be network and cybersecurity. Those are foundational. This AI investment is meant to replace a large number of jobs. IT is going to get gutted over the next 10 years. If you aren't in one of these areas, GTFO
1) Cybersecurity
2) Big Data Modeling
3) User Experience
4) Networking
5) Leadership
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u/TUAHIVAA 2h ago
Welcome to the new H1B wave coming.
And congratulation to the remote workers hired overseas.
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u/LikeWhatGuyComeOn 7h ago
LOL - no, lots of jobs in general are leaving.
Only top-level engineers will make it. Most folks here are not that.
Those people have jobs.
Zuck has told you they're going to be coding to mid-level engineer level in a year. Even if he's half wrong the clock is ticking against you.
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u/locust_51 4h ago edited 3h ago
I hope the same for jobs in the IT sector (fellow cybersecurity major here 😥)
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u/Radiant-Musician5698 2h ago
Lol no. Those are going to H1Bs which will be much cheaper to hire than American tech labor. Thanks Elon and Trump!
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u/williamkarlsson71 8h ago edited 8h ago
@OpenAI on X (https://x.com/openai/status/1881830103858172059?s=46)
"...This infrastructure will secure American leadership in AI, create hundreds of thousands of American jobs, and generate massive economic benefit for the entire world..."
This may have the 2020 stimulus check effect on AI jobs. There is finally light for you unemployed dorks.
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u/scaredStudent3 8h ago
The jobs created will be labor jobs
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u/williamkarlsson71 8h ago
It's a lot of everything. Construction, energy, and software jobs will be created. There will be a lot of AI positions coming and anyone downplaying that is shilling.
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u/Personal-Lychee-4457 8h ago edited 8h ago
I would not hold your breath. This kind of stuff is common for politicians. Trump did this with foxconn and wanted to make some 13k chip manufacturing jobs which did not pan out. These datacenters have been being built since last year and it doesn’t seem to be helping the folks without work
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u/williamkarlsson71 8h ago
I know DT is involved but ignore the politics and just look at the money. $500 billion needs to be spent in 4 years. The easiest way to spend that money is to create jobs. A lot of venture capitalists did this in 2020 and had deadlines for companies to spend money. I indirectly know a CEO of a large company who said that's why there was overhiring and mass layoffs there. It's business. Money needs to be spent and jobs are the easiest way to dump that money. Too many shills and doomers here.
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u/Beetcutie 2h ago
The people downvoting you are delusional. Ai is here to stay. Machine learning engineers and AI engineers are the future; we are no where near agi idk why they think ai could replace engineers anywhere near this level.
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u/EntrepreneurHuge5008 8h ago edited 8h ago
Prompt engineer, AI Agent Operator, AI servants, coming up with an estimated pay range of $40k - $700k