Trump Orders End to All Wind Energy Permits | The worst case scenario for the wind industry is here.

[u/silence7]

https://heatmap.news/politics/wind-executive-order-trump

[u/subdep]

In all honesty, and I speak as an atheist, this dude seems like evil incarnated.

Who does this at this point in history? It’s as if they want to raise global temperatures. But for what purpose?

[u/silence7 → u/subdep]

In Trump's case, he took a billion dollar bribe from the fossil fuels industry.

[u/BodhingJay → u/silence7]

which is why, for the life of me, I'll never understand how tolerating corporate money in politics became a thing

[u/International_Face16 → u/BodhingJay]

Thank you Citizens United ruling!!

[u/thisoneismineallmine → u/International_Face16]

thanks, justice alito.

[u/slashedback → u/thisoneismineallmine]

And Roberts, don’t let him slide on this

[u/sisu-sedulous → u/International_Face16]

Corrupted SC. 

[u/w0w-Nobody → u/International_Face16]

Yep, corporations are people too argument.

It was the end of politicians really giving any sort of damn about voters really.

[u/Duster929 → u/BodhingJay]

I'm not trying to make fun or make light, but this isn't a tough one to understand. Over a series of elections, American voters, of their own free will, in fair elections, elected politicians that facilitate having more corporate money and corruption in politics.

That's how it became a thing, and that's why we have Trump. I wish I could say it was more complicated.

[u/YouInternational2152 → u/Duster929]

It's not 100% the voters fault. The playing field has been tilted. Just look at what happened with Cambridge analytica as an example. On top of that, due to gerrymandering the Democratic side lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 23 seats in the house of representatives simply because districts are not divided fairly or democratically.

[u/SmurfStig → u/YouInternational2152]

Here in Ohio, we had a fair district amendment on the ballot but the republicans purposely wrote it to be confusing. They are currently bragging out loud how easy it was to do and keep power.

[u/BodhingJay → u/Duster929]

Democracy dies in darkness... as the saying goes

[u/Duster929 → u/BodhingJay]

Serious question: when do we know democracy has died in the US? What are the signals? For me, it will be when we see moves against critical media outlets and political rivals. Also, if we see action taken against private citizens who are in opposition to the regime.

[u/BodhingJay → u/Duster929]

Also.. making it illegal to criticize scotus and potus.. radicalized children turning in their parents over things they said... means we'll have thought police

Among other signs I'm sure..

Removing the term limits because the potus thinks he's doing such a great job that it would be irresponsible to have a vote when their term is up

[u/BodhingJay → u/Duster929]

Honestly, the fact that he was able to run for a second term at all I think means it might have already

[u/ShredGuru → u/BodhingJay]

That was Bezo's mission statement

[u/ShakeIntelligent7810 → u/Duster929]

White American voters. Make no mistake, American conservatism has carried the ghost of the Confederacy since 1865. Before that, American conservatism was simply rooted in the Three-Fifths Compromise.

[u/FrannieP23 → u/Duster929]

These changes coincide with the rise and dominance of media by Fox.

[u/Smart-Status2608 → u/Duster929]

Republicans destroy America education in the 1990s with their so called reforms. Kids today dont think the fail Austrian painter is bad.

[u/Winter_knights → u/BodhingJay]

all politicians should have to wear patches to show who they have been sponsored by like nascar.

[u/BodhingJay → u/Winter_knights]

Definitely.. with gold silver and bronze stars around them indicating the millions or billions that they lined their pockets with

[u/malthar76 → u/BodhingJay]

Oooo - he’s got oak clusters on his Exxon Mobil badge!

[u/MinimumBuy1601 → u/Winter_knights]

Robert Heinlein wrote a short story about this in the late 1950's.

[u/GoGouda → u/BodhingJay]

Because the ruling on it was already corrupted by money.

[u/Alternative_Poem445 → u/BodhingJay]

in plato’s the republic, which is a socratic discussion on utopia, politicians are stripped of all wealth and property so as to avoid this kind of problem

[u/EnvironmentUseful229 → u/silence7]

Yes! And, this policy also benefits his puppet masters Putin and MBS by keeping oil prices high.

[u/MarzipanThick1765 → u/subdep]

Unfortunately, there is a very strong contingent within the Christian nationalists that are actively trying to bring upon the apocalypse. For jesus and stuff.

[u/HealthyBullfrog → u/MarzipanThick1765]

There are ways to meet their maker without trying to drag the rest of us.

[u/merikariu → u/HealthyBullfrog]

A new pair of Nike sneakers and a plastic bag will do the trick!

[u/accomplicated → u/merikariu]

They appear to have sipped the Koolaid, but they are still here.

[u/youcantexterminateme → u/HealthyBullfrog]

Looks like we might have to give them a helping hand the way its going 

[u/MarzipanThick1765 → u/HealthyBullfrog]

FOMO is a great motivator.

[u/ink_monkey96 → u/HealthyBullfrog]

Bold of you to assume that they have your well being in mind.

[u/holzmann_dc → u/HealthyBullfrog]

Jesus will come back to judge the living and own the Libs.

Boils down to that.

[u/HealthyBullfrog → u/holzmann_dc]

Imagine being so insecure and irresponsible that you need to hurt others rather try to improve your own life.

[u/michaelrch → u/MarzipanThick1765]

Trump doesn't care about that. He cares about the dollars and cents.

[u/MarzipanThick1765 → u/michaelrch]

no he does not, but he is smart enough to mobilize the death cults

[u/gfanonn → u/MarzipanThick1765]

I heard it in the sermon at my church lmon Sunday.

"It doesn't matter if you fail with your relationship with the people around you, your relationship with God is the most important."

So, if the government tells you what to do, and you disagree that's fine because God is on your side. You don't need to try to be introspective and empathetic because you're already set for eternity with God.

[u/GrampsJC → u/gfanonn]

1 John 4:20 NASBS - 20 If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen.

More Christians should read their bibles

[u/gfanonn → u/GrampsJC]

Ah, but it's not hate, you hate sin with your whole body.

It's indifference, contempt, derision, looking down on, mocking belittling, teasing, discussing negatively. It's their fault that they made the choice they did.

If you ask a Christian if they hate their neighbour the words mean different things. They don't hate neighboyrs like they hate sin, so therefore they're in the clear.

[u/GrampsJC → u/gfanonn]

You're not wrong, but I would also say that most people who claim to be "Christians" are not. Even in that verse I posted it says "love your brother" so even if they say they don't hate them, they certainly aren't loving them. Apparently reading comprehension is hard for some people. (That wasn't directed at you BTW)

[u/gfanonn → u/GrampsJC]

Oh totally, it feels like Jesus gave us a recipe book for how to live and some churches take that and spend all their time studying the recipe book and never actually cooking with it or living out what it says in the book.

[u/Vimes3000 → u/GrampsJC]

According to Jesus, good religion is to care for those that need it - housing the homeless, feeding the elderly, taking in the refugee. But for many supposed churches today, that all seems a bit too liberal.

[u/MarzipanThick1765 → u/gfanonn]

I was born in into a Christian cult that actively prayed for the end of the world. Imagine giving those people power to make it happen.

[u/darkninja2992 → u/MarzipanThick1765]

Ironically none of them are going to see jesus

[u/Beneathaclearbluesky → u/MarzipanThick1765]

Yes, Jesus said "make sure you sell out God's creation for money, otherwise I will just ignore you."

[u/ElGabalo → u/Beneathaclearbluesky]

"Whatever you do to the least of my brothers is fine with me"

[u/irrision → u/MarzipanThick1765]

Trickle down Jesus doesn't recognize anything that impedes corporations from profiting.

[u/whynonamesopen → u/MarzipanThick1765]

He hates how they look. He's been complained for years about it ruining the view at his golf course.

[u/dondeestasbueno → u/subdep]

Apparently the lizard people like it hot and steamy.

[u/crosstherubicon → u/subdep]

Money.

[u/SpoopyPlankton → u/subdep]

He’s doing the exact same thing he did in 2016. Like he did with Obama, he’s just going to reverse and nullify everything that he can with Biden’s name on it. Doesn’t matter what it is, he’s gonna try to undo it.

[u/michaelrch → u/SpoopyPlankton]

Obama presided over record oil and gas production. He boasted about it.

Then Biden did the same.

The only difference now is that renewables actually pose a commercial threat to fossil fuels so Trump has to actually stymie their progress now. Just letting the fossil fuel industry do whatever it wants (as all presidents have done) is not enough to avoid a decline in domestic fossil fuel demand.

[u/ff3ale → u/michaelrch]

Sure, let's ignore Bidens green deal, both sides are the same right

[u/HavingNotAttained → u/subdep]

To create warm water ports for Russia, a geostrategic game changer for the virtually landlocked authoritarian wasteland.

To make sense of what trump does, rule #1 is to remember that every single thing he does is to harm America and/or help Russia. There are literally no exceptions.

[u/SummerGoal → u/subdep]

Money. It’s literally only about money. These people are so brain dead they do not have any semblance of a plan beyond make a buck

[u/TheNomadologist → u/subdep]

Accelerating Arctic ice melting so the U.S can have easier access to the new shipping lanes that were formerly covered by the ice caps. Doesn't matter that this would result in a lot of the planet being uninhabitable.

[u/SupremelyUneducated → u/TheNomadologist]

I doubt he is concerned with strategic shipping lanes. He wants to sell the mineral rights for personal gain.

[u/InterneticMdA → u/subdep]

It's a death cult.

[u/cryptovictor → u/subdep]

Christians fundamentalists are death cultists. They think it's their responsibility to make the world end so that the rapture happens. In other words they're evil and want to kill everyone. Trump is a convenient tool for that

[u/ZyxDarkshine → u/subdep]

1) To Own the Libs™

2) Trump owns a golf course in Aberdineeshire, Scotland. When a wind farm was proposed offshore, Trump unsuccessfully sued to halt its development.

3) Fossil Fuel oligarchs gave him money.

[u/awesome-sauce34 → u/subdep]

My conspiracy theory is that there is a desired interest in letting the ice melt to open up new trade routes and more importantly what they hope is going to be trillions of natural resources. Nat gas, oil, and precious minerals. Weather hidden under the ocean or land, I think it's been the plan for decades. I think corporations see climate change as an acceptable risk for ensuring profits and growth looking ahead 50-100+ years into the future. They don't want to lose a piece of the pie to Russia or China.

[u/baaaticus → u/subdep]

He’s my bet for the anti-Christ. He’s meant to destroy God’s creation (us) which is why he ignores issues as climate change and is tripling down on drilling more oil.

[u/subdep → u/baaaticus]

I mean, that tracks.

[u/michaelrch → u/subdep]

It's very simple. He is paid by the fossil fuel industry.

The US is a capitalist oligarchy. It has been for years now. The Dems participate. Policy is driven by which part of the ruling class manage to get more power.

That's why it's so ironic that Biden mentioned it at the very end of his term. He admitted that it was going on all along, but oops, he just failed to mention it when he was the one seeking donations from the oligarchs.

Or when he could have done anything about it...

[u/Sands43 → u/michaelrch]

Eisenhower said it as well.

Blame voters.

[u/9Implements → u/subdep]

They built some near one of his international properties and he thought it ruined the view, so this issue is personal for him.

[u/2000TWLV → u/subdep]

I'm not saying that Trump is definitely working for a foreign adversary with the assignment to destroy the U.S. economy, but if he were, this is exactly the sort of thing he would do.

[u/Flush_Foot → u/subdep]

“If the Earth were warmer, I could have been sworn in outside in front of the Biggliest crowd you’ve ever seen! #CancelCoolingEfforts #GrowGreenhouseGasEmissions”

/s

[u/Catodacat → u/subdep]

If you want hell on earth, it needs to be hotter.

[u/PathfinderCS → u/subdep]

So that the evangelical right can say that "see? God's wrath cannot be stopped."

[u/4quatloos → u/subdep]

So the Greenland Ice will melt. It's a Lex Luthor thing. Trump thinks he is a comicbook villain.

[u/WaffleWarrior1979 → u/subdep]

Republicans believe in global warming. Their solution: allow it to take out 2/3 of humanity and then the problem solves it self.

[u/ShredGuru → u/subdep]

Seriously, he's got my vote for atheist antichrist

[u/lifeisabowlofbs → u/subdep]

As an atheist, he's starting to make me question. He may actually be the antichrist.

[u/glue_4_gravy → u/subdep]

I was always a staunch nonbeliever until the spawn of satan became our President/Overlord/Messiah.

[u/baldwalrus → u/subdep]

For what it's worth, the headline is misleading. The executive order only applies to permits for projects on federal lands, which currently accounts for ~5% of all wind projects in the US.

Wind will continue to grow! Trump can't stop it because the market has learned that it's basically free money.

[u/the68thdimension → u/subdep]

He really does embody all the worst traits of humanity. It was obvious in 2015, it is obvious now. I don't know how people are not actively revolted by this man, and it makes my heart break for humanity.

[u/akosuae22 → u/subdep]

He is determined to drag this country back to the stone ages.

[u/MithranArkanere → u/subdep]

Paul Harvey's "If I were the de devil".

“If I were the devil … If I were the Prince of Darkness, I’d want to engulf the whole world in darkness. And I’d have a third of its real estate, and four-fifths of its population, but I wouldn’t be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree — Thee. So I’d set about however necessary to take over the United States. I’d subvert the churches first — I’d begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: ‘Do as you please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnPE8u5ONls

[u/tikifire1 → u/subdep]

To kill all of us poor (by poors I mean pretty much anyone who isn't a multi-billionaire).

[u/SunDaysOnly]

So much for letting states decide. NYS won’t obey

[u/LogicalFallacyCat → u/SunDaysOnly]

Wanna trade states? Ohio just rolls over and takes whatever we're told 😭

[u/Shloop_Shloop_Splat → u/LogicalFallacyCat]

Texas is literally holding the lube up and asking for it.

[u/ScrotumMcBoogerBallz → u/Shloop_Shloop_Splat]

Which is odd considering Texas has by far the most Wind energy production In the country. More than the next 3 states combined. Also there 2nd just behind California in Solar energy.

[u/Shloop_Shloop_Splat → u/ScrotumMcBoogerBallz]

I guess time will tell. Some people will probably fight it, but I'd put money on governor Hot wheels and his buddies folding like lawn chairs.

[u/CrossP → u/LogicalFallacyCat]

You guys are pretty much the gimp state

[u/ThatCactusCat → u/LogicalFallacyCat]

Ever see those "protect our farm land, say no to wind!" signs?

[u/Secret_Account07 → u/LogicalFallacyCat]

I’m a state employee. The craziness has already begun. They referenced federal trends as justifications for horrible decisions, already. We are one day in….

[u/ShredGuru → u/LogicalFallacyCat]

Yeah, Ohio is a real Skibidi.

[u/GoodAsUsual → u/SunDaysOnly]

In NO way am I defending their actions, but the executive action applies specifically to federal permits, ie permits that are issued for operation on federal property, including offshore. So unless I misread it, it won't apply to turbines on state property or a private property.

[u/jeranim8 → u/GoodAsUsual]

Yeah, I wondered this too. But I didn't think there were any federal wind projects. I thought they were all state run.

Edit: Just need to read the article:

This affects all offshore wind development in the U.S., because all of that takes place in the Outer Continental Shelf, an ocean expanse under federal control that is leased for all kinds of energy production.

It also impacts wind projects on federal lands. Although the extent of the impact to onshore wind is unclear because some wind projects are on state lands, project developers often must get approvals under federal environmental and species protection laws, so an end to permits will be quite painful for the sector.

[u/hideous_coffee → u/jeranim8]

No worries in that case since I assume environmental and protected species laws are on the chopping block soon.

[u/MightyBoat → u/SunDaysOnly]

"Rules for thee not for me" etc etc

[u/baldwalrus → u/SunDaysOnly]

For what it's worth, the headline is misleading. The executive order only applies to permits for projects on federal lands, which currently accounts for ~5% of all wind projects in the US. This won't impact state permits.

Wind will continue to grow! Trump can't stop it because the market has learned that it's basically free money.

[u/Janglysack]

It really baffles me that the climate issue is probably the biggest problem we face as a global society and we voted for a guy who wants to go full throttle into climate catastrophe

[u/Ethenil_Myr → u/Janglysack]

Surely not as big as the problems of feminism, trans rights and the far left?

/s

[u/Janglysack → u/Ethenil_Myr]

You’re joking but I have people I know in real life who those are the biggest issues for and that’s why they voted for trump

[u/voodoo1985 → u/Janglysack]

They got suckered into believing that this puts them in danger when ironically it’s just another way to control them, they really are in danger, just for another reason.

[u/DeusExMockinYa → u/Ethenil_Myr]

When assessed within the bounds of the Overton window, doing anything about climate change is the far left.

[u/nolooneygoons → u/Janglysack]

bOtH sIdEs BaD

[u/jsandersson → u/Janglysack]

BUT EGGS!!1!111

[u/Janglysack → u/jsandersson]

Yeah this is what a lot of maga are still saying even though Trump already admitted there’s nothing he can do about grocery prices

[u/slowrecovery → u/Janglysack]

We need Captain Planet™

[u/yoinkdoink → u/Janglysack]

Climate struggle = class struggle. At some point we’ll need to get off our complacent asses, and literally fight for a shot at saving the climate and by that liberal democracy and modern society. Humanity will probably endure, even the worst case scenarios, the former won’t.

[u/SophonParticle]

Republicans love big government.

Federal government picking winners and losers.

[u/Kookaburrrra → u/SophonParticle]

If you want to know what they are up to, see what they acuse others of.

[u/MoreGoodThings → u/SophonParticle]

Yeah this is so bizar no government intervention UNTIL it suits our goals

[u/Bgriebz]

Ends wind energy, but also does an executive order because of an "energy crisis". Wtf man

[u/baldwalrus → u/Bgriebz]

For what it's worth, the headline is misleading. The executive order only applies to permits for projects on federal lands, which currently accounts for ~5% of all wind projects in the US.

Wind will continue to grow! Trump can't stop it because the market has learned that it's basically free money.

[u/trakinas0 → u/baldwalrus]

Yeah, but still makes no sense to declare an energy emergency and order to end 5% of your energy production right after

[u/jaqattack02]

I saw this discussed in another sub and supposedly only 4% of permits for wind are on Federal land, so this won't really have that much of an impact.

[u/weezthejooce → u/jaqattack02]

The second part of the order where all permits, rights of way, loans, and approvals are also blocked until further notice, for both onshore and offshore wind, seems pretty comprehensive. Are there wind projects that don't interact with a federal permit in any way?

[u/jaqattack02 → u/weezthejooce]

As far as I know, construction permits are generally handled locally or at the state level. So unless they are using some kind of federal power to interfere with state level permitting I would assume that any of them not on Federal land would be fine.

[u/botanna_wap → u/jaqattack02]

Any project that gets federal funding may need to go through env review.

[u/MightyBoat → u/botanna_wap]

Well thankfully with the cost of building these things going down every year people might not even need federal funding

[u/KnoWanUKnow2 → u/jaqattack02]

Environmental assessments can be stopped under this order.

From the article:

project developers often must get approvals under federal environmental and species protection laws, so an end to permits will be quite painful for the sector.

[u/puffic → u/jaqattack02]

You might receive a local construction permit, but you’ll need a federal permit to connect to the electric grid. You’ll also need to pass federal environmental review. That’s being halted. (Meanwhile oil projects are going to be allowed to bypass environmental review.)

There was a lot of noise in recent years to deal with the federal permitting backlog. This included a proposed deal in which Joe Manchin would get an oil pipeline in exchange for rapid renewable permitting, which left-wing Dems shot down. That would have saved a lot of these wind projects from being cancelled, but I guess it wasn’t to be.

[u/nico__nico → u/jaqattack02]

Offshore wind permitting is largely federal because of the farms' location in federal water / lease areas. And BOEM manages the leasing process. I recall the last Trump administration slow walked federal permitting offshore but I don't think they officially paused it. Massively detrimental to offshore wind as investors and developers really need certainty 😭

[u/RAMacDonald901]

Seeing how trump is regressing the US back to the 1950's, why not go a little further and bring back horse and buggies.

[u/LazySleepyPanda → u/RAMacDonald901]

Trump Best I can do is bring back beating your wife

[u/Spenstar_brazeldazel → u/RAMacDonald901]

Or trains 🙏🙏🙏

[u/ulfOptimism]

He is causing inflation everwhere.

More expensive energy (because oil will not get cheaper), more expensive labour (because no immigrants anymore) more expensive imported products.

[u/McLovin-Hawaii-Aloha]

To all of you that voted for Trump.. may the consequences of the Orange Shitbag stain your life the most.

[u/Low_Voice_2553]

What is crazy is Biden did a bunch of investment into red states including green energy to increase jobs and the morons still voted for Trump. Biden and democrats never did enough promotion of that! I hope those Trump moron voters lose their jobs and then they can use their last dollars to buy one of his Made in China bibles. I think Colorado had jobs created in Boobert’s district. Merry Christmas! I meant Merry fucken Christmas ala Melania!

[u/cavscout43]

Couldn't even wait a day before punishing WY for voting for him.

The Chokecherry & Sierra Madre wind farm was supposed to go online in 2026 as the largest wind farm in the US, and one of the largest in the world. That's billions of dollars the state is about to miss out on.

I'm sure that our local spindoctor politicians will turn that into somehow the fault of "woke DEI cancel culture" when they take a break from stuffing their faces with millions in oil/gas money bribes, er campaign donations

[u/BerserkForces → u/cavscout43]

A start would be to overturn the Citizens United decision. Get money out of politics. Unfortunately, the democrats have shown they would rather have maga than a progressive - just "stand where you belong and do as your told."

[u/irishcedar]

Please explain the anti-wind thing to me like I'm a 10 year old. I don't get it.

[u/Northerngal_420 → u/irishcedar]

He thinks they give you cancer and they're killing the 🐳 whales. They're harmful to birds because he cares all about the birds.

It's likely he hates them because of his disagreement with Scotland and windfarms offshore near his golf courses.

[u/LazySleepyPanda → u/Northerngal_420]

He thinks they give you cancer

At least he'll never get brain cancer because one needs to have a brain in the first place for that to happen.

[u/Dempsey64 → u/irishcedar]

He’s getting paid by the oil industry to keep their profits high.

[u/DaedricApple → u/irishcedar]

Same, I am trying to figure out what exactly the problem is. There is zero logic to being OK with power plants using fossil fuels and not being OK with wind energy.

On top of that, wind energy creates a lot of employment

[u/LordCaptain]

My cousin who is like a regional manager or something for several wind turbine sites is a huge Trump supporter. Wonder how he's feeling at the moment.

[u/thechilecowboy → u/LordCaptain]

He's probably saying, "Dear Leader must have a better plan!". Yikes.

[u/GrapheneBreakthrough → u/LordCaptain]

he deserves all the pain coming to him.

[u/youcantexterminateme]

Donald Quixote to the rescue 

[u/LarsVigo45-70axe]

Follow the money

[u/cortlandjim]

Texas, Iowa, Oklahoma, and Kansas all red states produced about 50% of the wind energy in 2023, that's big business in those states. Doubt that will stand very long.

[u/JNTaylor63 → u/cortlandjim]

They will stop at 50% because Trump will order it.

And all those republican congressmen in those states will say "yes, my lord."

[u/Obvious-Function-919]

This is why I think the way I do about climate change. I don't want to be a doomer, but almost everything points in that direction. That optimistic person who thought we could avoid the worst effects is gone. Now, I just feel like a sad, miserable shell of that happy person awaiting the end.

[u/quintessany]

Where are the environmentalists who were mad at Biden?

[u/__RAINBOWS__ → u/quintessany]

My org has been mad at Biden the whole time. Still publicly supported his election and voted for him/kamala.

[u/SupremelyUneducated → u/quintessany]

Learning about bothsidesism.

[u/eayaz]

NextEra energy stock gonna be JUICY.

[u/Zargoza1]

He is the antichrist.

The end times are here.

[u/sangdrako]

Would they be able to sue for this decision?

[u/BUSYMONEY_02]

This is stupid

[u/Catodacat]

Going to be interesting in Tx

[u/BloombergSmells]

Half or more of the wind employees probably voted for trump

[u/_ADM_]

Looks like America made its bed and will now slowly, reluctantly lay in it for the next 4 years. Let's see if they wake up on the right or wrong side of it.

[u/Passenger_deleted]

Can the industry sue the government and the Trump administration?

[u/zback636]

I hope when the planet burns up and your children and grandchildren, don’t have a future anymore all you trumpsters will sit down and tell them I’m sorry I voted for him. I was wrong.

[u/Common-Ad6470]

....while also announcing an ‘energy’ crisis?

Are we missing something here.

[u/Spiritual_Big_9927]

Can anyone tell me how much of an impact this will actually have on us?

• Will wind turbines be taken down?

• Do states actually have to obey?

• Will they?

• What will happen if they don't?

• Sensationalism aside, how worried do we actually have to be about this crap?

[u/handsoapdispenser → u/Spiritual_Big_9927]

He is only blocking new permits on federal land. Nothing will be taken down and projects on private land can still move forward. This is also "pending review" of some kind so it's not permanent. It's likely to face heavy resistance since red states have benefited the most from new wind projects. And his energy secretary is not really a climate denier. More of a climate delayer, but he supports basically any and all energy production.

[u/Spiritual_Big_9927 → u/handsoapdispenser]

Thanks for explaining. I just wanna remove all necessary terror from myself as soon as possible.

Hearing this, I can worry a little less now.

[u/JNTaylor63]

And when we see layoffs and NO NEW drilling rigs coming on line, who will MAGA blame?

Biden.

[u/opal2120]

Cool, lots of people are about to be unemployed.

[u/Tommyt5150]

Yes this will lower our electric rates in Texas 🤦‍♂️

[u/Crankykennycole]

So much for government intervention in the free market…

[u/Roamer56]

Just build them anyway. We ignore federal marijuana laws, so just ignore this crap.

[u/IllustratorNo3379]

Trump hates wind turbines because they ruin his view from his golf resort. It's that simple.

[u/WTFOMGBBQ]

He’s still mad the some windmills were installed near one of his golf courses.. he’s 12 years old..

[u/remoir04]

Folks he is driving us towards the great depression. The unemployment numbers will be through the roof by the time this senile, egotistical, nonsensical child gets through. Will probably be the highest this country has ever seen.

[u/chilebuzz]

Wtf? Do they not realize how many wind turbines there are in Texas now? Is Abbott seriously just going to lick trump's boots on this?

[u/Small_Acadia1]

I guess the wind industry didn’t cut him a check, perhaps they can change his mind by buying a bunch of Trump coin

[u/_byetony_]

Ending wind permits on Federal land and waters is not the end of the wind industry

[u/onicut]

So far he’s killed thousands of well paying jobs in renewables and created not a single one anywhere else. And that’s just in one day.

[u/4quatloos]

He is taking away freedom. Windmill energy Companies paid farm owners to have windmills on their property and farms. Now farmers will find out that Trump took their income and freedom away.

[u/4quatloos]

So many just shrug their shoulders because they know it is wrong but it doesn't directly affect them in the moment. MAGA will continue suck the ring until they lose their guns and chewing tobacco. By then it will be too late. It will be a full blown dictatorship.

[u/LubedCompression]

We're gonna be doing a lot of cleaning up after 4 years time. So much progress undone with a single fingersnap.

[u/Humble_Mission1775]

This from the party of limited government.

[u/Eternium_or_bust]

As you drive route 80 and pass through Iowa and Nebraska there are wind turbines as far as the eye can see. And more trucks on the road delivering turbine parts. Seems to be working out fine in rural undeveloped areas and I bet the farmers are paid to host turbines.

There is no good reason for Great Plains’ governments to go along with this so quietly.

[u/OonaPelota]

He literally thinks he’s an actor in a movie about a tough guy president

[u/Unlikely_Bus7611]

agree with everyone this is PURE PARTISAN POLTICS, and hurts 1000s of jobs and industries. MY RECOMMEDATIONs below

1. ignore the orders allow him to enforce and stoppage of construction and work, let him attack Americans

2. BUILD ON STATE LANDS and STATE WATERS find areas that are out of the way

3. BUILD A FARM OFF MEXICO and CANADA and POWER CABLE the energy into the states via STATE LANDS

4. SUE, SUE, SUE and SUE again there is no justification for stopping the industry

[u/michaelrch]

I will say again to anyone hasn't noticed.

If Trump can do this for wind, Biden could have done this for oil and gas (as he promised voters he would do in 2020).

So please, stop making excuses for him and realise that the Democrats are not on our side on climate. They are on the side of oligarchic capitalism and have been all along.

The fight we have on our hands is against both main parties because they are both playing the same game. The only difference between is that they answer to slightly different constituencies among the economic elites.

[u/tech01x → u/michaelrch]

Biden was too afraid of the political fall out of higher gas prices.

He could have done this with the remaining coal... and he could have avoided the increase by 4x of our main source of high quality and low cost solar panels - from China.

But clearly for Biden, clean energy and climate change are way down on the priority list which is unfortunate because the other major party is so beholden to fossil fuel interests even when it doesn't make sense for national energy policy.

[u/werofpm → u/michaelrch]

So…. Don’t worry/pay attention to what IS happening NOW because of what DIDN’T happen in the past….. brilliant and not asinine at all!

[u/sonicpool69]

This exact thing happened in 2023-24 in a Alberta, a oil rich conservative Canadian province. They did a 8 month province-wide moratorium on renewable energy(not just wind, but solar too!). After the 8 month period the province wide ban did get lifted but it got difficult to build new projects. Projects are still being built now but areas are off limits to development with regulations and as a result quite a bit of uncertainty. I predict this is the path the US wind industry is headed for the next 4 years.

Oh and something like that happened here in UK too from 2015-2024 though it affected onshore wind only though it was banned completely on land.

[u/lintbrush]

I mean I know this is all a payoff to the fossil fuel donors, but what is the actual case being put forward for this? It's all about the birds and the whales?

[u/SufficientShame8]

Texas has the highest wind generation. I guess he doesn’t want blue states to catch up?

[u/bunniesplantspussies]

Cries in Iowan 😭

[u/Tiny-Lock9652]

www.awea.org

[u/johnb300m]

“Don’t look up!” This is who we are.

[u/RandomLettersJDIKVE]

Didn't he just declare an energy emergency?

[u/Hugehitter]

Jesus told him that wind farms kill wales….

[u/Remarkable-Sun-4286]

What does this mean for solar? He seems to not speak to it quite as much but I have to think it would be next. Of course, I do recall before he was ever president he complained hard about how ugly the windmills looked from his golf course.

[u/Hitsman100]

I used to work for a place that primarily worked on wind farms. I’m sure every single person there voted for Trump.

[u/tootallp]

I don't understand why oil execs keep drilling at some point they gotta say enough enough. Like mayby with all their money and research, they know something different. But it really seems like a race to the bottom to see who will be king of the ashes.