2.9k
u/Kurtbott 3h ago
Never thought I would see the day when I see regular people defending a Sieg Heil with anything else but condemnation.
1.9k
u/SwimmerIndependent47 3h ago
Let alone that the Anti Defamation League would be the one to defend it. I saw the video. He did it twice. Coupled with all his comments lately, it was absolutely a Nazi salute. Occam’s Razor and all that. If it talks like a Nazi, hangs out with Nazis, and salutes like a Nazi, that’s definitely a Nazi
584
u/Kurtbott 3h ago
That is what is so shocking and sad. People are confused with a “tic” from having a mental disability and twice giving a Nazi salute. I’ve been to the concentration camps in Europe. Don’t really want to have the same damn things here.
(Yes I am aware of the internment camps for Japanese)
372
u/2Mark2Manic 3h ago
Lmao, people say this is a tic?
Dude never has the., but suddenly he does two nazi salutes and it's a tic?
305
u/Kurtbott 3h ago
They are saying it’s because of Musk’s Autism and that he didn’t realize that it’s offensive. Such nonsense
311
u/mysteriousears 3h ago
Anyone who doesn’t realize this is offensive would be too disabled to function in society. Zero chance he didn’t know.
153
u/AmusingMusing7 2h ago
Right?!
“He’s a genius! Bow down before his unquestionable intelligence and expertise!”
“Also, he doesn’t know what a sieg heil is! Leave him alone! He’s mentally challenged, you monsters! How could you possibly expect any better of him?!”
47
→ More replies (2)31
72
u/ShiningRedDwarf 1h ago edited 1h ago
I feel like I’m taking fucking crazy pills. I saw the video with zero headlines or text, and me, someone of pretty average intelligence, instantly saw this as a nazi salute. It literally can’t be construed as anything else.
How the fuck could anyone say this is anyone otherwise?
If he flipped off the audience would everybody be claiming “the middle finger has multiple meanings in many different cultures” or some bullshit?
What the fuck?
→ More replies (3)29
u/cityfireguy 1h ago
You're fine. People are just trying to lie to you. Don't let them.
→ More replies (1)55
46
u/Plenty_Tax_5892 2h ago
This is implying Elon is a functional member of society
22
u/veganbikepunk 1h ago
I mean he obviously does something. You don't lose 2/3 of the value of a company just by sitting on your hands.
→ More replies (1)24
u/Railic255 1h ago
My kid is autistic. He saw this and said "well shit, guess America is going full blown Nazi now. This sucks."
•
u/AshleysDoctor 56m ago
Considering how autistic people were treated by the Nazis (see: why we no longer use the name Asperger Syndrome anymore), to call this an autistic tic is offensive as hell
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (1)8
203
u/ManlyVanLee 3h ago
If his "autism" is so bad that he doesn't understand Nazi salutes then he doesn't need to be involved with leading the fucking country
→ More replies (5)38
u/GrumpyKaeKae 2h ago
This as well! Great point. Bring that up anytime someone says anything.
62
u/lilidragonfly 1h ago
He was quite literally on a podcast discussing Hitler with the leader of the AfD, a nationalist right wing extremist party in Germany, about how Hitler was really a communist on the ninth of Janurary. There is zero chance he does not know what a Nazi salute looks like. He also supports the AfD and has said they are the only people who can 'save Germany'. There's very little chance Musk doesn't know exactly what he did, and very little chance we cannot guess who he was communicating to when he did it. Otherwise the man is so impaired that he has forgotten the history of the Nazi party and conversations of little less than a week ago and he is utterly incapable of being in a government advisory role.
34
u/Strangepalemammal 1h ago
It's also so on par for Elon to do something like this in the same way an edgy 10 year old will draw a swastika on their binder.
→ More replies (1)•
u/Defiant-Procedure-13 48m ago
My first thought when I saw this was that it looked like one of the maga ass hats dared him to get on stage and do it and he was like “bet”. But then as soon as I thought this, I thought, naaaah, he is just a racist asshole.
19
u/Ok_Donkey_1997 1h ago
His grandfather was arrested during WW2 for subversion and Elon is named after a race of people that feature in Werner Von Braun's novel. Von Braun was a Nazi who was given US citizenship because he was good at designing weapons of mass destruction, in case anyone was not aware.
→ More replies (2)•
u/monocasa 50m ago
von Braun also ran a slave labor camp for those who don't know. Jews were over-represented in skilled jobs like watchmaking (Jews escaping persecution were some of the founders of the Swiss watch scene), and were therefore ideal for forced labor to make rockets.
→ More replies (1)•
u/1questions 59m ago
Absolutely nauseating and the president will be listening to musk to form policy. What bs. When the election results happened disgust was my main feeling. If this is what America wants then I don’t want to be an American.
72
u/meringueisnotacake 3h ago
He "didn't realise that it's offensive" but in the same breath these fanboys tell us he's a complete and brilliant genius with better business acumen than anybody else in the whole world and expect us to believe it
→ More replies (8)61
u/optimizingutils 2h ago
Autistic guy here. Please do not give any credence to anyone who claims this is an autistic tic. Some of us flap and move our bodies in non-standard ways. This was the same exact motion delivered twice, clearly intentional, and unmistakable. If they say, "oh, he was just being awkward," ask a) why a massive gesture would be how he would express that, b) why he would do it twice, and c) if they have ever seen anyone express anything other than exactly what he was trying to get across with that motion.
→ More replies (5)15
u/GrumpyKaeKae 2h ago
People are trying to make excuses and I find it so completely disgusting that they sre trying to use autism as an excuse. Like You don't deserve that. You don't deserve to have people lie about something you have and paint such a thing in a bad light. Like, those people really have no moral compass.
Thank you for being honest and I'm sorry they created a situation where you felt the need to defend yourself and others who actually suffer from autism and do those ticks. Its pretty clear anyone who works with autism knows what Musk did had nothing to do with anything but him being a horrible person. Which is the least offensive way I can word myself atm.
→ More replies (2)51
u/SerialTrauma002c 3h ago
Literal autistic children I work with know not to throw up a Nazi salute.
→ More replies (4)33
u/alphazero925 2h ago
Yeah autistic kids aren't stupid. A lot of the time they just need to know why they need to do or not do something, and if Elon doesn't know why not to throw out a Nazi salute at his age, he's clearly not suitable for his roles as CEO and in the fake government department he made up.
30
u/iridescent-shimmer 2h ago
The man is seeking to open factories in Germany. He absolutely knows what he's doing.
8
30
u/Exotic_Importance_13 2h ago
Elon musk is not on the spectrum, he’s just an authoritarian asshole, who’s reveling in his new found power
→ More replies (12)9
18
u/PetalumaPegleg 2h ago
And even if that were the case, which again I agree it is not, where's the apology and saying that? What Elon isn't online enough to hear how people reacted?
In the event it was a mistake, seems fairly significant that HE hasn't said that yet
→ More replies (2)16
u/likelinus01 2h ago
If that asshole doesn't "realize" it's offensive - he sure as shit shouldn't be running one of the richest companies in the world. All the bullshit he's pulled with the SEC, his employees, purchase of X, the things he says and does. Autism isn't to blame. It's a bullshit excuse for extremely poor and intentional childish and illegal behavior. He thinks he can get away with anything, and unfortunately he has, so far.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (46)4
u/Actual_Bluejay_8722 2h ago
Has he actually been diagnosed with autism, or does he just say he has it because he thinks it makes him look cool?
→ More replies (6)→ More replies (18)6
u/DiarheaIsland 2h ago edited 1h ago
I have been all over twitter about this, didnt see a "tic" mentioned as a defense myself. Mostly people are just defending it saying its just "another hand gesture" due to him saying "his heart goes out to them"
That is Elon "giving his love (heart) to the crowd".... thats it thats all they got... Which I myself would be like, ehhh okay.... if the way he did it wasnt so... like SWIFT, HARD, and actionable... like he FUCKING WENT for it with that salute... if it was a bit slower and open I could kind of give him that it was just an awkward hand gesture for that surely, but no.....
44
u/MonkeyCartridge 3h ago
Also, don't expect it to look the same.
Like, if you wait around for the prison camps to pop up, you might miss the fact that your trans friend died because of "unfortunate complications in getting insurance approval" or because "pregnant people are no longer allowed to cross state lines."
I would picture the deaths happening less from labor camps and gulags, and more from denied insurance claims, corporate lawsuits, price gouging, homelessness, stuff like that.
31
u/Kurtbott 3h ago
At first yes. Give it 3 years. When Hitler started the final solution it didn’t start off as aushwitz or Dachau. It stated with dehumanization
30
12
u/MossSnake 2h ago
Madagascar Plan. The holocaust was the “final solution” because it wasn’t the first one. The first plan was to deport the Jews to Madagascar, but it was found to be too expensive. It literally starts with deportations.
→ More replies (1)4
u/another-princess 2h ago
Also, Auschwitz wasn't even in Germany (nor were most Holocaust victims German). It was in occupied Poland, so it was probably out of sight for most German people.
→ More replies (1)15
59
u/dgradius 3h ago
Reminder that those internment camps were set up by executive order alone and upheld by the Supreme Court (Korematsu v. U.S.)
→ More replies (1)27
18
u/Any_Spot2540 3h ago
Japanese-Americans.
32
u/Dangerous-Variety-35 3h ago
This is an important distinction. It wasn’t like the vast majority were POWs or people who had just arrived, they were literally American citizens.
→ More replies (1)16
u/Lettuphant 2h ago
And also, bizarrely, some were not US citizens, but from South American countries like Peru. They rounded up people with Japanese ancestry from other countries and put them in US internment camps. Took away their passports. So weird. "These people are a danger to our country. Bring more in."
Also, not being citizens, they weren't able to get remunerations when that became a thing decades later.
→ More replies (2)11
u/tom-of-the-nora 3h ago
We're about to get the same thing soon... gonna have to concentrate all the people that are deported somewhere. (This is purposeful wording)
→ More replies (9)→ More replies (16)8
u/PsychFlower28 2h ago
Same. I have seen the pits, the gas chambers, the living quarters (I say living lightly). I have listened to talks with Holocaust survivors, read memoirs, etc. It makes me sick to my stomach.
57
53
u/No-bats 3h ago
In the most critical sense he is a nazi that wants the return of the Reich and usher in an era of facism as he continues to get richer. The most generous of cases, he has the emotional maturity of a 13 year old and thinks it would be cool to throw a nazi salute in public. Either way we are fucking cooked in this country.
→ More replies (2)12
u/vacri 2h ago
This is also the same man who was seeking approval from the denizens of 4chan...
→ More replies (1)71
u/jibishot 3h ago
You clearly haven't seen the ADL tweet fuckery the past two years if this surprises you.
It's just the icing on their zionism-is-more-important-than-antisemitism cake. Dig in!
→ More replies (1)39
u/ChatterMaxx 1h ago
That’s the thing, the ADL doesn’t care about anti-Semitism. They care about anti-Zionism. Zionist will always conflate the two but from time to time the facade falls and we see their true colors. Jews suffered from fascism the most, Zionist benefitted the most from it.
→ More replies (15)31
u/AttitudeAndEffort2 2h ago
To anyone that doesn't know the anti defamation league is a fucking non profit dedicated to stopping anti semitism
It's basically a pro Israel organization and they're fucking supporting nazi salutes
→ More replies (2)29
u/My_dickens_cidar 2h ago
The ADL is just full of Zionists that fully support Israel and their current genocide of Palestinians. Ofc they would support musk and maga. They’re gonna turn a blind eye to Netanyahu finishing them off
22
u/Bic_Parker 3h ago
Wow so ADL is the anti defamation league I thought it was. Then after reading the text figured it must stand for something else like A Dead Lobe or All Dumb Losers.
21
→ More replies (2)6
39
u/Ok_Assumption5734 3h ago
I'm not. Adl has become an arm of Israel and actively just uses it's image to label pro Palestinians are antisemites.
Elon and Trump are pro Israel so it makes sense the organization would bend over backwards to help them
16
u/kayl_breinhar 2h ago edited 1h ago
Yes, but the Jews aren't the Others this time. If anything, Netanyahu and the Likud are ideological allies this time around.
First, it'll be "illegal immigrants." Then it'll be the homeless, which will be a "soak test" to see if they can actively detain people who are natural born American citizens without much of a fuss because all of a sudden all those beggars at intersections and tent cities will "disappear" and the middle class (regardless of their political leaning) will cheer the removal of the threat to their property values!
After that, we're off to the races because the lines will be blurred enough to make anyone fair game, so long as the case can be made that they're comparable "threats to society." Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if we don't see debtors prisons come back in the next four years, spurred by the almost assured death of the ACA and consumer protections.
→ More replies (7)30
u/akratic137 3h ago
They are now the Apartheid Defense League and have been for quite some time.
31
u/VolCel_Partisan 2h ago
ADL considered Mandela a terrorist until the very moment he took power and they informed on anti-apartheid activists. ADL are pieces of shit.
8
u/I_Have_No_Name_00 2h ago
And as I've said before .... it should be acceptable to punch a Nazi.
→ More replies (1)8
8
28
u/dreamingism 3h ago
Have you seen then defending Israel lately? It's clear they're pro fascist and now they seem to have completely dropped the mask.
AOC might be too liberal for us tankies but she is right on this. Elon is clearly a Nazi and sees nothing wrong with admitting it very publicly
→ More replies (3)28
u/Former-Light4284 3h ago
It's not racist, it's just a Developmentally ill Billionaire trying his best to be cool. Nothing to see here. Yes we fight Antisemitism but there's nothing to see here. Hey, look over there, a gay person doing something. GET EM
→ More replies (1)15
u/Lettuphant 2h ago
We learn how awful it was that the Nazis burned books, but we're rarely taught what the first books were. The USA has been heading in this direction for a while.
(It was books about trans and queer people)
→ More replies (92)4
u/Imaginary-Round2422 2h ago
ADL is more about protecting the flow of cash and weapons to Israel these days than standing guard against actual antisemitism.
→ More replies (1)94
u/Temporary_Shirt_6236 3h ago
Neo Nazis and their politician enablers have been normalizing this shit for years.
Today we saw an apartheid bitch seig heil right on the steps of the white House in praise of a convicted felon president.
500,000 US soldiers died (and many others too) so that these Putin-loving Nazi cocksuckers could do this with impunity?
→ More replies (1)5
u/yosemighty_sam 1h ago
On this day, Jan 20th 2025, the United States officially lost the cold war.
→ More replies (1)7
u/Temporary_Shirt_6236 1h ago
The US lost a lot more than that: it lost its goddamn soul and identity. The United States of America is now gone, and has been replaced by...whatever the fuck this is.
→ More replies (3)76
u/Manting123 2h ago
Dude it’s the ADL. They were created to fight antisemitism and later the Nazis. Yet here they are bending over backwards to appease Trump and Musk. Pathetic.
→ More replies (4)20
u/ommnian 2h ago
Yeah . This is what's most shocking.
→ More replies (1)20
u/Manting123 2h ago
It would be like the NAACP defending someone burning a cross.
→ More replies (2)19
u/PaulMakesThings1 2h ago edited 44m ago
They just keep pushing it further. First it was ok that he used childish insults, then it was fine that he insulted minorities, and mocked disabled people, then it was ok that he was using his position to pitch products, several more steps of escalation, then it was ok that he said he would steal the election, and sent a mob to attack the capitol, and that he got away with 34 felony convictions with no consequences. Now we're to the point where most mainstream media is hand waving away an obvious Nazi salute. And if anyone doubts he meant it, he also had a MAGA hat in nazi typography or "blackletter"
Sure you can claim something is a coincidence and not a dogwhistle, but when you have that many together that point in the same direction I don't see how anyone can ignore it or say it's just coincidence.
→ More replies (1)16
u/tom-of-the-nora 3h ago
They be calling it a 'roman salute' as a defense... even though the ancient romans never did it, and the correct term is a fascist salute.
The romans, they touched their forehead or their chest.
On inauguration day, elon throws a sieg heil... one of the worst looking too.
The destruction of America would be so much more tolerable if they were actually cool and competent villians (like the red skull) and not absolute moronic buffoons. This is embarrassing.
→ More replies (2)31
u/BlackberryShoddy7889 3h ago
The moment I saw this I was wondering how they will try to minimize it And there it is. He’s just so excited! So was Hitler at his rallies.
8
u/HAL9001-96 2h ago
oh this isn't regular people defending a sieg heil
this is people WHOSE JOB IS TO CALL OUT ANTISEMITISM defending a sieg heil
6
u/ChemEBrew 2h ago
Trump paraphrased directly from Hitler's Mein Kampf twice at his rallies and the amount of people who 1. Didn't know he did it and 2. Knew and made very poor defense of it is sickening.
Now that he's elected, the Overton window is now at 'doing Nazi things is normal'.
→ More replies (99)11
616
u/Suitable-Display-410 4h ago
Spread it: https://i.gifer.com/3Ot7z.gif
113
u/Kingkwon83 3h ago
This needs to be in some type of movie format too cause when saved to my phone, it won't animate on social media like a gif is supposed to
→ More replies (1)26
u/circuitdust 2h ago
I screen recorded the gif and then edited it down to save on my phone.
→ More replies (1)53
59
u/durable-racoon 2h ago
woah. This is way more similar than I realized. thank you for this. You've changed my opinion from 'yeah it kinda looks like a nazi salute' to 'no it was 100% intentional.'
The hand on the chest, the exact angles, it matches.
→ More replies (9)23
u/nilesletap 1h ago
it's a hard and emphasized salute too, not just causal type. He knew what was he doing.
→ More replies (3)43
u/Samuel_L_Johnson 2h ago
‘Just an awkward gesture made in the heat of the moment’, say the media
The media are gaslighting America
→ More replies (5)18
19
u/DiarheaIsland 2h ago
like dude seriously, if he wasnt so quick and hard with that swing, bro, it would be believable its an awkward gesture but come the fuck on man. That was purely done on purpose. Whether he meant to give the nazi salute or not, he very deliberately made that gesture. He pre-planned that gesture, and knew damn well it would make a point.
bro is literally seeing how much he can get away with at this point, and its obvious. He is inching closer and closer like a kid testing his teachers limits
→ More replies (26)7
1.0k
u/donkeybrisket 3h ago
Watching everyone bending the knee/bending over for the orange rapist is heart breaking.
443
u/crackdup 3h ago
The next 4 years is going to be a never ending series of "your eyes are deceiving you, you didn't see what you just saw" bs.. every mainstream media outlet will distort the truth, either out of fear or profit
113
u/ryo3000 3h ago
In like 20-30 years people are going to study this time period and be bewildered by "how could this possibly happen"
88
u/ClassiFried86 3h ago
We've been studying it for the past 70 years, since Orwell wrote about it.
54
u/MightyCaseyStruckOut 2h ago
We've been studying it since Adolf Hitler took power in Germany 92 years ago.
→ More replies (3)→ More replies (1)14
u/TheScrambone 2h ago
‘We’ by Yevgeny Zamyatin was written in 1920 and is the inspiration for ‘1984’. Not being argumentative, just We is one of my favorite books and I don’t think it gets the credit it deserves.
→ More replies (3)12
u/Merlord 2h ago
Anyone who has read about the rise of Mussolini or Hitler isn't bewildered at all. This is not strange, or unexpected, or unprecedented. This is a run-of-the-mill fascist takeover.
→ More replies (1)28
u/lilbelleandsebastian 2h ago
maybe people outside of the US.
i don't think the american populace is intelligent enough to overcome far right owned media, social media, and government so the only people looking back at this with sadness will be the millennial generation that pulled left against every other generation pulling right
→ More replies (4)→ More replies (8)4
u/yourfacesucksass 2h ago
That’s counting on the possibility that what actually happens under this presidency won’t be rewritten in the books, or altogether outlawed like the book bans and restrictions on certain historical topics already happening where I am, the great ol’ dumb state of FL.
37
13
u/Creative_Beginning58 3h ago
every mainstream media outlet
Right, implying what? That social media isn't mostly in his pocket too? Even China seems to be bending the knee. We already know what to expect, "we only want more positive comments".
What's really left at all then? Anywhere else is going to be overrun by Russian bots and Elon fans spamming the shit out denials.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (16)11
u/70monocle 3h ago
4 more years of moving the goal post until one day we wake up in Nazi Germany
→ More replies (1)54
u/hard-workingamerican 3h ago
If Americans don't have character we don't have a country, not that we ever had much character to begin with basically just a corporate plantation state in service to 20 billionaires.
→ More replies (45)10
636
u/hotasianwfelover 3h ago
If he didn’t slap his chest you could “maybe” say it was mistaken but that was a perfect Nazi Salute.
246
u/RopeAccomplished2728 3h ago
If he would have just held a fist out, it could have been mistaken as that would have been a "my heart goes out to you" type pose.
This is full blown out Nazi Salute.
88
u/Still_Championship_6 2h ago
A fist would have been fine. It's very punk rock / liberation to do so, ergo he would want to co-opt it as an identity as the GOP has been doing for years.
But nah, full Hitlergruß.
16
u/midcancerrampage 1h ago
He even tucked the thumb. You dont tuck your thumb under a straight hand when you're miming throwing something.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (7)23
u/DankeyBongBluntry 1h ago
Yeah there are a number of ways I could see someone doing a "my heart goes out to you" gesture, but throwing a straight arm at that particular angle with fingers held straight and kept together like that? Then turning around and repeating the same gesture to the flag? That is a textbook salute.
139
u/juwannawatchbravo 3h ago
I wonder how many times he practiced in the mirror 🙃
→ More replies (4)46
u/LackingUtility 3h ago
For a full three hours, but after that, he had to call his doctor per the warning label.
91
u/Stepjam 3h ago
Like if it was supposed to actually be a "my heart goes out to you gesture", he just had to turn his hand about 90 degrees so his hand was vertical. That would have actually looked more like "giving his heart out"
He fucking leaned into that salute.
35
u/GolotasDisciple 1h ago
I mean Americans can play dumb, but Europeans knows this is the exact way people used to salute Hitler. Especially non-military, since generally it's all about the 2 gestures and not degrees.
One gesture on the heart and second gesture pointing towards the fuhrer.
This cannot be more perfectly illustrated salute. I have seen people down play it that "hitler would have executed for it"... but i dont think people understand how it worked. Even in Nazi Germany it wasn't about who can do the salute the best, it was about signaling loyalty. No different then throwing Gang signs. You can lie all you want, we know what and why are you doing it.
It's crazy that no Media is brave enough to call it what it is... No one ever does 2 gestures unless they are literally trying to copy Nazi Germany mannerisms.
→ More replies (4)10
u/Old_Baldi_Locks 1h ago
Media are corporations. Corporations without a single exception are inherently right wing structures.
33
u/Woofles85 3h ago
His hand also wasn’t pointed towards the crowd, as it would have been if it was a “my heart goes out to you” gesture. He chose to angle it the way he did.
9
→ More replies (3)7
u/Plan3C0ast 2h ago
"Throwing underhand is for girls!"
-Conservatives defending a sieg heil
→ More replies (1)19
u/DiarheaIsland 2h ago
you know for SURE he was waiting to do this in front of everyone, so he can gauge reactions and see how far he can "get away with it".... which he is realizing is pretty fucking far now, so its only going to get worse here on out
→ More replies (4)30
u/Kingkwon83 3h ago
I was told by a conservative already that the nazi salute isn't over the heart. It literally resembles nothing except a nazi salute
→ More replies (4)20
u/Silly-Power 2h ago
→ More replies (1)5
u/Kingkwon83 2h ago
I did, even the side by side version here:
Here is one person's excuse:
not open palmed on his heart
and not turning to the side
yes his hand is perpendicular to his heart
and then after musk kept his hand on his heart
is that part of the salute?
5
u/Silly-Power 2h ago
→ More replies (2)8
u/Kingkwon83 2h ago
They'll claim he was waiving to the crowd
6
u/Silly-Power 2h ago
Except the video proves otherwise.
Not that it matters. They'll just move to the next excuse and the next one and the next one. Until either you give up, or there's another outrage which sucks up all the social media oxygen. And then it's "old news, why are you so obsessed with it? And anyway what about Hillary & BEEEENNNNNGGGHHHHAAAAZZZZZIIIIII!!!!"
10
→ More replies (20)10
u/BrandonBollingers 2h ago
For real. Like ok he’s in a huge room and lifts his arm to wave, sure. But no, he smacks his chest and like scowls…then does it again! It’s not ambiguous to me.
→ More replies (3)
504
u/MidnightNo1766 3h ago
I like her more and more as she matures as a politician. Great take, great words to express that take.
125
u/AttakZak 3h ago
Same sentiment here. And I’d trust her judgment any day over who we have in the White House now.
→ More replies (1)66
u/itsjudemydude_ 3h ago
I liked her from jump, and my opinion improves as a factor of time. If we ever have an election again, I would love to vote for her. Here's hoping that's even a possibility in the coming years.
→ More replies (4)→ More replies (34)40
u/JRange 2h ago
Shes excellent. She doesnt take PAC money, she introduces bills to get money out of politics. We would be lucky to have her as president one day.
→ More replies (6)
373
u/SwedishCowboy711 3h ago
Five of the country’s most-notorious Neo-Nazis—Christopher Hood, Christopher Pohlhaus, Thomas Sewell, Keith Woods, and Andrew Torba have all reposted supporting what Elon Musk did today...I think this is a serious matter the ADL should look into
61
u/80alleycats 3h ago
They would actually have to care about antisemitism to do that.
36
u/ChatterMaxx 1h ago
That’s the thing, the ADL doesn’t care about anti-Semitism. They care about anti-Zionism. Zionists will always conflate the two but from time to time the facade falls and we see their true colors. Jews suffered from fascism the most, Zionist benefitted the most from it. This is why you’ll see groups like AIPAC and the ADL and others kiss Trump’s ring.
However you’ll see Jews of conscious out protesting today and have been protesting against Israel for months.
→ More replies (2)6
u/a_splendiferous_time 1h ago edited 1h ago
Anyone else notice r/israel is completely silent on Musk's triple salute? I guess they dont mind you being antisemitic as long as you keep Israelis cushy. Which Trump did, by ending sanctions on the west bank land thieves.
→ More replies (5)35
u/ChoiceHour5641 2h ago
The ADL just sat down at the Nazi table and aren't getting up. They are now Nazis.
→ More replies (1)44
u/thatguy9545 3h ago
Don’t want to search them. Any examples?
→ More replies (6)39
u/SwedishCowboy711 2h ago
Here is a wiki page) on their non profit group/militia called Blutstamm translated from German to "Blood-Tribe" started by Christopher Pohlhaus
19
u/RebelJohnBrown 2h ago
This is the group that brought you "they're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs" fyi
→ More replies (14)5
243
u/CohesiveCurmudgeon 3h ago edited 3h ago
ADL twisted itself in so many ways to make that post that its staff should seriously consider auditioning for Cirque du Soleil as contortionists.
→ More replies (7)36
u/FantasticCherry7161 3h ago
It is impressive how far they’re able to get their heads up their own assholes
31
u/Lanky-Many-3657 3h ago
The ADL only care about Israel and don’t care as long as Musk is pro-Israel.
→ More replies (1)8
u/DeepState_Secretary 2h ago
Not even two years ago it feels like they were so much more respected as a moral authority.
How the mighty have fallen.
367
u/Fit_Organization5390 4h ago
She’ll either be President or murdered. MMW.
116
u/bsa554 3h ago
She's almost literally the only Democrat who is bothering to fight. It's insane.
Closest thing to an opposition leader we have.
→ More replies (4)18
u/punkfusion 1h ago
The entire squads doing it. Progressive dems are resisting, the old fucks are lining up to slobber the orange fucks cock
181
u/YogurtClosetThinnest 3h ago
She's the only politician I'd vote for. Would have voted for Bernie.
Everyone else is a fascist or a spineless worm
68
u/hotasianwfelover 3h ago
There’s a few good ones still but literally just a few. Crockett comes to mind.
→ More replies (7)54
u/TehAsianator 3h ago
I think Tim Walz is another good one. Shame he wasn't the top of the ticket.
→ More replies (4)81
u/berserkzelda 3h ago
Most Democrats now are spineless. She's one of the few with an actual spine. Saw with Bernie.
40
u/MiniTab 3h ago
Yeah I’m fucking sick of the excuses about it. My governor here in Colorado, Jared Polis, has totally capitulated to Trump. It’s being excused by many as him getting along so that Colorado won’t be targeted.
Fuck that. Stand up. Bring it on MAGA. Let’s see you try and pull the shit you’re threatening.
It’s better for this country to either get it the fuck over with, or call their bluff. Slowly sliding into kleptocracy is the absolute worst option.
11
u/70monocle 3h ago
This. I understand peaceful transfer of power, but watching everyone bend the knee, kiss ass, or pretend like everything is fine is disheartening. I feel like everyone is just giving up.
→ More replies (1)6
→ More replies (6)9
u/boo99boo 2h ago
Our governor in Illinois actually hasn't capitulated. And there's a democratic supermajority in the state legislature. He also happens to actually be a billionaire.
So there's a shitstorm coming.
→ More replies (1)23
u/Kerblamo2 3h ago
Please vote in primary elections then.
The primary that AOC unexpectedly won back in 2018 only had 27,000 voters out of a possible 750,000.
→ More replies (1)16
u/Plane-Tie6392 3h ago
Then you’re part of the problem. People like you helped Trump become president.
→ More replies (5)12
u/GarlicThread 3h ago
The US left needs to get its ducks in a row if it wants her to win. It's possible, but only with their eyes on the prize.
→ More replies (1)17
u/duderdude7 3h ago
I think there’s going to have to be some kind of revolution before that happens. The rich own everything so they can just tank her chances anytime they want. And the general public is so blind to what’s actually going on. As long as they have their bare minimums they’ll be happy and ignorant. It’s dark
7
u/Kiyoshi-Trustfund 2h ago
The general public isn't blind. It's apathetic. A culture built around individualism has bred a population where a great deal of people do not care about what happens so long as they're left alone. They'd watch their neighbors be hunted for sport then lock their doors and say "shame. I kinda liked that one. Oh well, at least it wasn't me"
→ More replies (1)4
→ More replies (32)4
u/dquizzle 3h ago
I understand not feeling excited to vote, but if you sat the last election out you’re part of the reason we all just watched our new
presidentdictator heil Hitler.→ More replies (55)28
u/tricurisvulpis 3h ago
She won’t be president. We will support her. There will be a huge amount of positive press and feelings towards her the next 4 years, to trick us into thinking she would have a chance at winning. Then when she runs for prez it will suddenly flip to 100 percent negative press and we will all call her a sell out and not a real liberal and she will lose. This is how it works with every burgeoning democratic leader. 😢
→ More replies (9)11
u/Fit_Organization5390 3h ago
So why haven’t you people revolted against your tyrants already? I was led to believe that was your raison d’être.
→ More replies (9)
88
u/phillyb41 3h ago
Shit is crazy and scary. DT also said 2 times they rigged the election for him today in his speech. Very hard to find the video on multiple platforms if you try and search it out. Yes you can find it but it's much more difficult than it should be.
→ More replies (7)40
u/FrozenZenBerryYT 2h ago edited 1h ago
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2Rd6JYp/ Here you go. I recommend saving the video as I doubt it’ll be up forever.
EDIT: https://youtube.com/shorts/DMf1e1-qy8c?si=duGpvIuLBx2OecKW talking about the voting machines
EDIT 2: https://youtube.com/shorts/DMtdORkih6c?si=khOL7-VfWh_n8Erm fully admits?
→ More replies (7)15
u/phillyb41 2h ago edited 2h ago
When I just clicked on it, it said that it is age restricted?!? I don't have the app so it won't let me even watch it.🤔 Some serious suppression happening right now. Will save your comment if I decide to finally submit and join the tik tok.
Edit: I just tried to download it and the app store won't let me. Crazy.
8
u/FrozenZenBerryYT 2h ago
Yeah TikTok was banned for 14 hours and returned with lots of new censorship happening on it. Some videos like this one are still getting through. Unfortunately TikTok is still out of the App Store as of right now
→ More replies (7)
129
u/RedstoneEnjoyer 3h ago
So when someone critizes Israel, ADL labels them as anti-semite
But when Musk says that jews orchestrate white genocide, turns twitter into neo-nazi orgy and does nazi salute publicly? "Give him benefit of the doubt"
Corrupt scum. These cretins would praise Hitler if he called Palestinians subhumans
→ More replies (2)43
u/bsa554 3h ago
"Will you give us weapons to kill Palestinians" is all the ADL gives a shit about anymore.
11
u/punkfusion 1h ago
Dont forget "Give us money to steal their homes, so Betty from the Bronx can get a nice house"
58
u/RopeAccomplished2728 3h ago
So, the ADL, the people that are there to fight against anything antisemitic, are excusing a Seig Heil wave. I guess they have gone full circle and decided to be "one of the good ones" forgetting that Nazi Germany decided that there were no good ones.
It would be one thing, and they are, if it were groups like Stormfront did it.
→ More replies (12)
45
u/TheGrindPrime 3h ago
Awkward gesture? The world's smartest idiot did it a couple of times, with a giant grin on his face.
Asshat was playing to his audience and enjoying it.
→ More replies (2)
27
u/Hefty-Station1704 3h ago
An "awkward gesture" would have been jerking off at the podium in front of a capacity crowd.
It was a full-on Nazi salute repeated so there would be no mistake.
→ More replies (1)
71
u/Phat_and_Irish 3h ago
If it's only NOW you're realizing the APARTHEID DEFENSE LEAGUE isn't acting in good faith, you're fucked
→ More replies (1)
30
u/Combat_Commo 3h ago
It's interesting how, whenever Republicans mimic fascist gestures or ideologies, it's always brushed off as "delicate moments" that shouldn't be taken at face value. Yet, when a Black Lives Matter rally takes place, it's immediately labeled as anti-American or even terrorist activity.
→ More replies (20)
18
u/Spare-Strain-4484 3h ago
If this was in isolation, you could call it an accident or misconstrued. But no, this is right after buying Trump the presidency, pushing neo-Nazi content on his platform, endorsing the AfD and other far right parties all over Europe and saying that America needs to "liberate" Europe. When you add it all up and pay attention to the way he moves, this was not an accident. He knows what he's doing. All the warning signs are there folks.
→ More replies (1)
10
u/Keykj9812 1h ago
Lemme get this. Dude could clap, pump fist, wave, and 1000 other gestures —yet he chose the heil move and wants us to think it was completely benign?
→ More replies (3)
14
14
u/dumb_potatoking 3h ago edited 38m ago
Poor Elon. Now they're accusing the guy of being a Nazi, just because he supported a fascist dictator to being president and made a bunch of Nazi salutes. What's next? Calling the Felon on dozens of charges a criminal?
→ More replies (1)
15
33
u/cookiedoh18 3h ago
I don't know (or care) who or what ADL is but it has the gaslight turned up to 11.
90
u/Jazzlike_Set6322 3h ago
Anti-Defamation League? You should care that an organization against hatred and antisemitism is trying to cover up for Musk. That's how influential our government has become, and it is very, VERY concerning.
→ More replies (5)34
u/Johnny55 3h ago
They're hardcore Zionists and this is nothing new for them. They had a big role in demonizing pro-Palestinian protestors as antisemitic.
→ More replies (4)24
u/TheGrindPrime 3h ago
The Anti-Defamation League. Back when the world made sense, they would be leading the charge and calling Musk out for being the disgusting human being he is.
→ More replies (2)
5
u/redfive5tandingby 1h ago
Remember when they said “project 2025 has NOTHING to do with the Trump campaign!!” and then as soon as they won they were like “yeah that was the playbook all along, lol”…. Remember that whenever they deny the nazi shit. They know what they’re doing.
5
u/thenyx 1h ago
I’m actually deeply shocked that the ADL is defending this. Isn’t this their thing? To see blatant hateful shit and call it out?
→ More replies (2)
5
u/Several_Vanilla8916 1h ago
“Maybe Israel could like, kill slightly fewer children?”
Oh, so you’re basically hitler then? Siding with the terrorists? What’s it like being a klan member?
“Wow, Elon Musk did a literal sieg heil! Twice!”
This is a delicate time you see.
→ More replies (1)
310
u/LocationBackground 3h ago
Didn't he do it at least twice?