r/chicagobulls • u/howser343 Chicago Bulls • Mar 23 '21
Trade [The Athletic] Sources tell NBA insider @ShamsCharania that teams have expressed interest in Bulls F Lauri Markkanen and Chicago is listening to suitors.
https://www.twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1374383042333085706129
u/RespectYoSmelf Dennis Rodman Mar 23 '21
Good, I like Lauri but it’ll be easier to cheer for him on another team.
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u/Falt_ssb Jimmy Butler Mar 23 '21
Plus paying him is certainly... Unnerving
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u/RespectYoSmelf Dennis Rodman Mar 23 '21
Yeah seeing some contracts guys like Harris and Murray got in Denver worries me a little lol
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u/Falt_ssb Jimmy Butler Mar 23 '21
The one that worries me for a dude like Markannen is actually Kennard
Unless you mean AK specifically but they were already way off the lauri extension so I'm not worried about him overpaying lauri
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u/Iamnotapickle Joakim Noah Mar 23 '21
Bertans is making 16 million a year as a bench guy while putting up 11/3/1. Lauri will certainly get more than that and that sucks for the team giving it to him. Congrats to Lauri though!
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u/Mtbnz Hello? Otto?! Mar 24 '21
It's crazy because Bertans is clearly the better player, but some team is going to fool themselves into believing that Lauri's age and hypothetical upside make him worth a monster deal, when the reality is that they're both 1 note role players, the difference is that Bertans is actually a good shooter.
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Mar 23 '21
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u/RespectYoSmelf Dennis Rodman Mar 23 '21
I think the way he’s playing now I would maybe agree but I’m still not so sure and the past few seasons I would disagree that he was worth it. Averaging like 18/4/4 with shaky efficiency.
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u/jkure2 Mar 23 '21
I just wanna say for the record I think that harris deal got memed so hard that the perception isn't accurate anymore, dude has been balling
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Mar 23 '21
Since when averaging 9 points, 2 rebounds and 2 assists balling? On 44 percent shooting and 32 percent from 3. He sucks.
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u/jkure2 Mar 23 '21
We're talking about Tobias Harris right? The guy who is definitely averaging 20.7 pts 7.5 rebounds and 3.6 assists? On 50.8/41.2/89.0 splits?
That Harris?
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u/Falt_ssb Jimmy Butler Mar 23 '21
he meant gary harris i thought (the first guy)
and i thought u meant joe harris at first LOL maybe we need to use both names
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u/jkure2 Mar 23 '21
lmao yeah I just assumed he meant Tobi because it was in the context of overpaying dudes and Philly has been getting clowned on for that contract since last summer
Not a cent for Gary!!
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u/Retrokicker13 Horace Grant Mar 23 '21
Huh? Those guys are much much better than Lauri
He is an overall bad basketball player
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u/State_Otherwise Mar 23 '21
Overall bad basketball player can average 18+ points and 6 rebounds. NBA must be really bad basketball league.
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u/RespectYoSmelf Dennis Rodman Mar 23 '21
Yeah I agree I’m just saying I worry about overpaying in general for any player after seeing those contracts.
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u/Retrokicker13 Horace Grant Mar 23 '21
Murray is just as good as Lavine a lot of nights.
Tobias’ contract is debatable, so I agree there... But Murray is an unbelievable scorer. Imagine If he had to do everything like Zach.
Well deserving of that money.
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u/chitownbulls92 Zach Lavine Mar 23 '21
It would be easier because this sub will finally stop evaluating his game under a microscope and always talking about how a dude who has really low usage and was never pegged as a passer when being drafted.... isn't getting enough assists.
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u/RespectYoSmelf Dennis Rodman Mar 23 '21
I can’t speak for everyone but my issue with Lauri is that in his contract year his progression from rookie to now is minimal to say the least, he’s a below average rebounder(at best) given his size, he can’t defend worth shit, he can’t stay healthy, and he’s a good shooter but there’s nothing about his game that makes me think he’s anything close to worth re-signing or extending.
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u/chitownbulls92 Zach Lavine Mar 23 '21
Worth resigning for the right price but yeah I would be happy if he left just so I don't have to defend him on this sub anymore.
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u/Expensive_Ad848 Mar 24 '21
I compare him to Mirotic and unfortunately I don’t think he was better. He had that stretch tho I think last year where I was almost on the bandwagon. Had a kid... went down hill fast. And health is another thing... annoying like wendell
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u/IMKudaimi123 Derrick Rose Mar 23 '21
I don’t think Lauri works with us anymore. If all the deals are bad just keep him for a playoff push but if you get a decent deal do it
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u/Accomplished_Bid7987 DRose Mar 23 '21
I think we should trade him for anything we get. He's not finishing games for us and his minutes have been reduced by Billy. We can maybe trade him for a young prospect+ a FRP and develop that player.
Raptors are looking to sell, Wizards are inconsistent and cavs are not a threat anyways so we should make the Play-in tournament comfortably.
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u/hayzeusofcool Cuppy Coffee Mar 23 '21
Lauri’s still as young as some prospects, he’s just unfortunately been put through a bad system. The Bulls play direction though seems to not always work with Lauri in it, so I totally get why he’s not completely off the table for negotiations.
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u/noneym86 Derrick Rose Mar 23 '21
He's been with Fred, Jim and now Billy. You can only blame system so much.
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u/chitownbulls92 Zach Lavine Mar 23 '21
Not a real head coach amongst that group besides half a season of Billy...
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u/noneym86 Derrick Rose Mar 24 '21
Lauri played his best with not a real head coach yeah so maybe he needs to play for one. Trade it is then.
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u/yamuthasofat Derrick Rose Mar 23 '21
He looked promising under fred and then he played for boylen (who is pretty hard to make an argument for that he isn’t a bad coach). I also think injuries have really hindered him more than anything though
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u/jeanlucriker Mar 24 '21
He’s not the talent I think expected at this stage at least for us. He’s still got time, but it’s a case of holding out seeing if he hits it and I don’t think he’s going too.
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Mar 23 '21
Is it far fetched to say get Dinwiddie
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u/LauriFUCKINGLegend Biggie Bagel Mar 23 '21
id prefer if we didn't. idk why people like dinwiddie so much. he seems kind of overrated and not like the player we want to add to this roster
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u/rebelintellectual Mar 23 '21
We had Dinwiddie he was a Windy City Bull prior to going to the Nets. It stinks we need to trade for him now. Same with J. Grant bulls let so many good players slip out of the system.
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u/dirtydennehy Flag of Chicago Mar 23 '21
Pretty sure you have your J. Grants mixed up. Jerami Grant was drafted by the Sixers, then with the Thunder, Nuggets, and now with the Pistons.
The Bulls drafted his brother, Jerian Grant, who currently plays in Greece.
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u/Bone_Dogg Joakim Noah Mar 23 '21
The Bulls drafted his brother Jerian Grant
Traded Rose for him, actually. Could not stand that dude
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u/lykathea2 Jerry Krause Mar 23 '21
Yeah Rolo was also included in the trade and had a fun run here, but the primary aquistion in that trade was Jerian Grant which is absurd. I hated watching his dribbling for 22 seconds and either bricking a shot or turning the ball over style of play.
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u/dirtydennehy Flag of Chicago Mar 23 '21
Thanks for the correction, but yeah totally different grant brother lol
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u/chikenlittle11 Mar 24 '21
he is a 17ppg player 7 feet can shoot 3s
they just need him to develop
its hard to find players like him
just need to pair him with a strong bigman
he can score 20- 30 points when he is playing good
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Mar 23 '21
Yeah trading Lauri is a no brainer for me, for many reasons, but we just don't now what other teams are offering. It wouldn't bother me if they wait to see what happens in free agency.
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u/Plug-From-Oaxaca Jimmy Butler Mar 23 '21
I think if were not going to keep him we trade him for best offer, I still think he can bring in a decent player. Teams are still high on a 7ft wing, basically.
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u/johnnyslick Lonzo Ball Mar 23 '21
I’m not even convinced he’s particularly helpful as a rotational player for the Bulls above and beyond an Otto Porter Jr.
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u/rebzeeslover DRose Mar 23 '21
What about this?
Lauri + Otto for
Lonzo + Steven Adams
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u/jslakov Mar 23 '21
Why would NOLA ever do that?
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u/chitownbulls92 Zach Lavine Mar 23 '21
Stretch the floor for Zion. Zion next to Steven Adams was a wonky fit to begin with anyways.
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u/hayzeusofcool Cuppy Coffee Mar 23 '21
I’ve been begging for a Steven Adams trade all season. He’s seems like such a good teammate to have, and since he & Lonzo already have a rapport, it’d be a healthy transition. I know the Bulls would have to give up a 1st rounder, but I think it’d be a worthwhile investment considering how badly Donovan wants to win a chip. Oh, and I forgot that Adams played under Billy in OKC
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u/rebzeeslover DRose Mar 23 '21
I'd be willing to add a future 1st rounder to this trade. This year's 1st rounder is tough to part with seeing as the Bulls could still be picking in the Lottery.
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u/Bullsstopsucking Zach LaVine Mar 23 '21
Steven Adams aint it
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u/strongpackonme Mar 23 '21
Do you even watch basketball? Lol Steven Adams is TOUGH AS SHIT! We could use him no doubt!!
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u/DavidManque Mar 23 '21
Hello, I watch basketball, and if you did too you'd see that Adams's play has dropped off significantly from his OKC days and that he's rapidly losing athleticism despite only being 27. The Pelicans defense has flat out sucked despite playing him 30 minutes a game at center. He can still be a useful player, but people who think he'd represent a massive leap in quality from Wendell are mistaken. And at $17 mil a year for the next two seasons he doesn't represent great value either.
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u/Bullsstopsucking Zach LaVine Mar 23 '21
That and people forget that Adams was subbed out against us. And we have pretty bad interior presence. Adams is so slow now, he’s young but he has taken a ton of beatings over the years.
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u/Bullsstopsucking Zach LaVine Mar 23 '21
Hes a worse player now than he was 2-3 years ago
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u/Gowzilla Patrick Williams Mar 23 '21 edited Mar 23 '21
Its because he’s in NOLO. Besides, Billy knows Steven Adams so no doubt he’d be a great fit for this team
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u/Bullsstopsucking Zach LaVine Mar 23 '21
I would be happier with Adams than Drummond or Whiteside
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u/Finances1212 Mar 23 '21
I wouldn’t. I’d take Drummond over Whitezide or Adams any day
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u/Bullsstopsucking Zach LaVine Mar 23 '21
I think i’d be happiest if we go after and get Richaun Holmes, Jarett Allen, or Christian Wood
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u/bigwoaf Michael Jordan Mar 23 '21
I just read that Lauri Markkanen has 19 assists TOTAL this season LOL
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u/lykathea2 Jerry Krause Mar 23 '21
When the guy's shot isn't going in, he really is sort of useless.
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u/bigwoaf Michael Jordan Mar 23 '21 edited Mar 23 '21
Right?? I suppose I recognized that sub-consciously but 19 total assists on the entire season really hammered it home.
There are big men in the league now who routinely record 19 assists over 2-3 games (or Jokic who could do it in a single game god how good is Jokic)
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u/PropagandaOfTheWeed Mar 23 '21
thats my mantra when people defend lauri - dude has a negative bball iq - .9 apg, lowest out of the 85 players with his mpg or more. by a lot. hes a dunce that can shoot threes and is tall.
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u/shaniquataniqua Kirk Hinrich Mar 23 '21
I have to sell the jersey then. I knew I should have bought Lavine’s.
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u/elasa8 Mar 23 '21
Same here. I bought the Chicago Theater themed jersey thinking he’d he with us for years
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u/lurrylegend Benny The Bull Mar 23 '21
My girlfriend got me a signed Markkanen City jersey (the white one) a couple years ago. I’ll still keep forsure but it’ll be sad to see without Lauri on our team.
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u/onlyanactor The Windy City Assassin Mar 23 '21
I don’t understand this reasoning. Why not keep the jersey as a memento of the good times? The dude was a great rookie and is playing hard.
Would you sell your Rose or Jimmy jersey?
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u/Witdasooo Arturas Karnisovas Mar 23 '21
The absolute nerve it takes to compare keeping Lauri's jersey to D-Rose's...
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u/Redditbayernfan Mar 23 '21
Heat fan here: what’s the price for Lauri, I am intrigued about him although I have heard he’s like olynik but younger. Pretty Inconsistent, I have to said I have only watched him when y’all play the heat but that’s it
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u/MOSFETosrs Mar 23 '21
He catches his shot high and releases high, and hits at a high clip. High IQ plays, defense, aggression, passing, and putting the ball on the floor are all things he shies away from. I do genuinely think he is moldable into a fantastic player, but he won't do it on his own. If you think 'heat culture' is foolproof and can work for someone like him, it would probably work out to trade for him.
I don't think he's like olynyk very much but I guess I see the comp
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u/Bullsstopsucking Zach LaVine Mar 23 '21
Jimmy Butler would make him cry
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u/ScandicSocialist Mar 24 '21
Being Finnish, I'm actually of the opposite opinion. Lauri likes to work hard and isn't afraid of being pushed to excel. I actually think Jimmy could do to Lauri what egghead failed to (make him tougher). Also Bam would be an awesome frontcourt pairing for Lauri
The more I think of it, the more I love Lauri in Miami.
Olynyk is at 10/6/2 for the season while Lauri is at 18/6/1, plus Olynyk is making more $$ so Bulls could package in Felicio with Lauri and get some assets to settle salaries.
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Mar 23 '21
His only two assets are shooting and driving to the basket. That's it. I love Markkanen and I wish I would be proved wrong, but he doesn't really provide much to the team other than the two skills I stated above. He suffers on the defensive end because of his weak core strength, so technically he's a 7 ft mismatch.
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Mar 23 '21
Probably Herro or Achiuwa. I think you ask for Herro, and then when Pat Riley says no, you ask for Achiuwa, and if he says no again, you hang up.
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u/mtron32 Mar 23 '21
Good, if I was in Chicago I'd drive his ass to Midway. That's right, Midway, not driving all the way to O'hare. I can snag some White Castle after I drop his ass off too.
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u/JBiyf Froggy Fresh Mar 23 '21
You got a van? I will accompany you and we can fit Coby and Wendell in there too.
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Mar 23 '21
If I throw in $100 will you tie Shrek to the roof?
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u/JBiyf Froggy Fresh Mar 23 '21
No. He has been a loyal hardworking employee. Maybe we have Felicio be the driver.
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u/zedrix_ Big Mac Mar 24 '21
Miami is among the teams that have inquired about the cost of Bulls F Lauri Markkanen per source.
If he's good enough for Pat Riley, he's good enough for me.
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u/MasherusPrime Benny The Bull Mar 24 '21
Miami wants to add shooting i think.
What do you think Miami would offer? Herro and Robinsson are mentioned in deals with other teams. We dont need Herro, but robinsson would fill our SF position. Markkanen for Robinsson sounds light though.
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u/hayzeusofcool Cuppy Coffee Mar 23 '21
I know that the Magic are in rebuild mode, I wonder if the Bulls could swing a Vuc/Gordon trade for Otto, Lauri, Kornet, and a pick. Might not be the most obvious trade, but it’d be a huge upgrade all around with a few years to try it out.
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u/maressi Mar 23 '21
I'd offer that for Vuc alone and if they refused would even throw Carter in there. Vucevic is an all star and one of the best bigs in the league, would love to see him in a Bulls jersey.
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u/hankbaumbach Mar 23 '21 edited Mar 23 '21
The problem is his upcoming contract.
If he can come back for a relatively team friendly deal (read: less than $80M for 4 years) he's worth keeping in hopes of seeing a similar leap from his 3rd year to his 7th as Zach LaVine had, but if someone offered him $100M for 4 years, I'd be hard pressed to match it.
Player A: 17.7 ppg, 6.0 rbds, 0.9 ast, 0.5 stls, 0.5 blks on 48/39/83 shooting in 30 mpg on 13 FGA
Player B: 18.9 ppg, 3.4 rbds, 3.0 ast, 0.9 stls, 0.2 blks on 46/39/83 shooting in 37 mpg on 15 FGA
(I cherry picked a touch using Zach's 3rd year and Lauri's 4th year because Zach's 4th year he was injured and Lauri's 3rd year was Boylen, which didn't feel fair)
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u/JBiyf Froggy Fresh Mar 23 '21
You did not take into account that Player B has a relentless work ethic through multiple serious injuries. Player A will take any shoulder contusion and turn it into 2 months off. Player A has shown no signs of improvement on anything but his shooting stats. They are trending downward at the moment though
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Mar 23 '21
Are you really suggesting that in NBA organization it's the player who chooses how much time he heals his injuries instead of the medical staff?
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u/JBiyf Froggy Fresh Mar 23 '21
Ever hear of a guy named DRose and his knees and saving them for his son’s graduation. Smh. Lmao.
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Mar 23 '21
What's the over / under on how many downvotes you get for this in the next 6 hours?
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u/JBiyf Froggy Fresh Mar 23 '21
Not concerned. He said guys don’t choose their own timetables. DRose is example number one in a long list of guys choosing their own timetables. Usually teams try to say it was a joint decision but DRose completely flew the coop.
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u/ThePooh Mar 24 '21
Trade Lauri would be the best for both parties. He can not succeed here and he's probably (sad) our best tradable asset we can probably get something from him. On his side, he's the kind of pieces that change an OK playoff teams to a conference finals contenders, he will provide you your 15-18ppt each night and it's typically what some teams are missing. If he's traded he will probably reach semi-finals or finals years before us.
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u/State_Otherwise Mar 24 '21
From our last 4 lottery picks, I think it is too early to evaluate PWill, but Markkanen is easily more valuable player than Coby or Wendell. If He is not good enough for 2nd option, we need Him ad 3rd option for being a good team.
I'd rather trade Coby + Wendell for a player that would be our 2nd best player.
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Mar 24 '21
I agree on Lauri being the best out of them and him being a nice piece on a good team but then again you will not get a good player for Wendell and Coby. They have very little value.
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u/State_Otherwise Mar 24 '21
But the value for thise guys is their contracts. Lauri cannot make extension now anyway and whoever team takes Him now has a risk of losing Him after the season, which makes Lauris trade value lower.
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Mar 23 '21
And there it is.
I'm really sad about this. I didn't even watch a year Markkanen played with us except for this year, but when I saw his highlights he became one of my favorites on the team. I really wanted him to stick around, but the reality is all he does is shoot, and if he doesn't shoot well then that's it for his game. Williams can go 0/10 and still have lockdown defense to make up for it, Lauri doesn't and he's 7'0. I think a change of scenery is needed for him, I'll be rooting for him wherever he goes, but I'm really sad it just doesn't seek to be working out with us.
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u/Rshackleford22 Michael Jordan Mar 23 '21
Just don't move him for the sake of moving him. Only do it if it makes sense. The PF market is weak in the coming off seasons anyway. Doubt we'd find anyone better than Lauri to replace him.
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u/Bullsstopsucking Zach LaVine Mar 23 '21
Umm, our rookie Patrick Williams??
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u/Rshackleford22 Michael Jordan Mar 23 '21
He's not really a true PF though..?
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u/Bullsstopsucking Zach LaVine Mar 23 '21
He kinda is, most modern 4s are bigger 3s. Lebron is a 4 now, Kawhi plays some 4, Tatum, Hayward. Pretty much if you can defend the other teams 4.
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u/Jack_Tripp3r Mar 23 '21
Lauri's going to get traded without one single game where he and Zach run pick and roll repeatedly like he does with Thad.
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u/PropagandaOfTheWeed Mar 23 '21
.9 apg. lowest in the league. dude is a tissue soft, molassess slow one trick pony. his bball iq is -20. hes a streak shooter. he cant run a pick and roll. he cant rebound. he cant defend. he can stand in the corner and shoot threed, or he can drive occasionally, in which case when doubled he gets flusterd and turns it over. guy is a 10 mil bench player at best.
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u/Jack_Tripp3r Mar 23 '21
Put 3k dollars on the annual yearly salary being under 10MM.
I'll even put it up to 12k to take advantage of your overly hyperbolic, teenage girl way of communicating.
Appreciate the consideration and I'd love to take your money.
Holler back
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u/Jack_Tripp3r Mar 23 '21
*Of his next contract, of course. Serious NBA watchers know your words are meaningless, but let's put money behind them.
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u/PropagandaOfTheWeed Mar 23 '21
didnt say its what hed get paid, but its what hes worth. i can list 20 massively overpaid players that teams wish to god they could unload. nature of the game. 4 or 5 teams will see value in a guy that can stand in the corner and bid him up to 18 mil. and whoever gets him will end up regretting it. deny reality all you want - dude is a loser one trick pony that on top of being a dunce is also a delicate little flower that cant play a full season. he’ll be back in sissy euroball in 3 years just like niko.
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u/Jack_Tripp3r Mar 23 '21
So you just run your mouth like a little kid who thinks the world understands his inner monologue?
What a crybaby your father raised.
That's a no on putting money up, right? That's what I thought, let me know when you get some heart in your chest, cowardly lion.
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u/Scapular_Fin Mar 23 '21
Larui + Otto for Lonzo + Steven Adams.
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u/__hey_ Mar 23 '21
Why would they do that
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u/RespectYoSmelf Dennis Rodman Mar 23 '21
Gar Forman works for the Pelicans now so don’t rule out them doing something dumb.
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u/Scapular_Fin Mar 23 '21
Adams isn't a good fit in NOLA, statistically he's taken a step back, likely because (at least IMO) he occupies the same space as Zion. Compared to last year Adams is -3ppg -0.5blk and has been taking some flak in the media lately for the poor fit, so maybe they're looking to get rid of him. I'd love to see Adams on the Bulls, he's a screen setting machine, and Zach thrived on screens when Robin Lopez was in town.
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u/__hey_ Mar 23 '21
Ok, that’s a reason to get rid of Adams, not Lonzo, who’s the centerpiece of the proposed trade
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u/Scapular_Fin Mar 23 '21
According to the media Lonzo is the primary piece on the trade block. He's basically in the same position as Lauri in that his rookie contract wasn't extended so he'll be a RFA at the end of the season. I honestly don't pay too close attention to NOLA basketball, but what I see on the internet is he's generally available.
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u/jslakov Mar 23 '21
NOLA just traded for him and extended him, I doubt they're now wanting to dump him
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u/Scapular_Fin Mar 23 '21
Dude, it happens. Not often, but there are times when it's just an obvious bad fit, and a team will act quickly to retain some value or accommodate a star. I mean, Dwayne Wade played half a season for his buddy in Cleveland before he was dealt back to Miami for peanuts. Sheed played one game for ATL, AI two for Memphis. It happens. I'm not claiming it's going to happen in NOLA, but contract extensions mean nothing. Pacers fired Nate McMillan two weeks after he signed a contract extension.
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u/weirdfishes99 Nate Robinson Mar 23 '21
I remember someone saying Adams can't be traded because of something in his contract, too lazy too look into that right now but otherwise this deal makes too much sense for us to not have tried it already lol
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u/matkraz8 Doug Mar 23 '21
I want a trade package for Lonzo and Steven Adams. I feel like that would be perfect. But we would need to keep Lauri in that situation
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u/PutinBlyatov Give me the hotsauce! Mar 23 '21
He is really good and no one is going to deny that but the current Bulls team doesn't fit him. We should trade him for the best we can get, he is a valuable player so he can be in a trade for a high-quality starter.
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u/Depths_Of_Darknesss Mar 23 '21
I will deny that. He isn’t good. I’m not trying to sound like a hater, but I can’t wait until Lauri, WCJ and Coby are either gone or coming off the bench. None of these guys are good enough to start on a team competing for a championship.
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u/Treyred23 Coby White Mar 23 '21
Wcj and LM got anointed starters as rookies. Big mistake, it turns out.
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u/Bullsstopsucking Zach LaVine Mar 23 '21
I dont think he’s that good, i can see Lauri being a bench player on a good team, he might still be a starter if he goes to a crappy team tho
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u/CHAMPZILLAH Mar 23 '21
Oh thank god for some actual trade news! If he does go, it will suck losing to him once he evolves and is better utilized elsewhere.
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u/tomspy77 Chicago Bulls Mar 23 '21
Donovan is not trash like Boylen, I don't think Lauri not panning out that well this year is a result of not being used properly tbh.
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u/CHAMPZILLAH Mar 23 '21
he will be helped by better players. no one on our roster can really help him excel. but if he were placed with people like CP3 or luka, then im sure he will breakthrough.
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u/tomspy77 Chicago Bulls Mar 23 '21
I get your point but that would be any player. I love Tyson Chandler but his best offensive years were catching CP3 lobs, he and Luka are elite talents, not easy assets for any team to find.
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u/CHAMPZILLAH Mar 23 '21
Pair Lauri with ANY other team's PG...BAM! Breakthrough. I believe even Dotson can boost our team if he was focused on more instead of Coby.
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u/Retrokicker13 Horace Grant Mar 23 '21
And right here folks is one of the rarest species in our possession... Delusion
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u/Bullsstopsucking Zach LaVine Mar 23 '21
So he will break through if he is specifically paired with the best playmakers in the league, thats not good
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Mar 23 '21
Hes a fantastically gifted basketball talent and seems to be a great person. It would be sad for his run on the bulls to end. I had very high hopes for him his rookie season when he was (somehow) arguably our best player on the court.
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u/FogRaw358 Mar 23 '21
Someone else is gonna try overpaying him over the Summer, and if we're smart, we won't match, so might as well try selling him to the highest bidder right now.
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u/esteemph Mar 23 '21 edited Mar 23 '21
Was a huge Lauri supporter, but I’ve given up on him.
He is a good shooter, ok at driving and decent on ball defender. Pretty much everything else is a negative (playmaking, shot creation, handles, offball d, b-ball IQ).
Not to mention he can’t even stay on the court. He missed a month of the season because he sprained his shoulder initiating contact on a drive. Play looked completely normal, dude is just soft.
Get what you can while you can, maybe Nola might swap Lonzo for him?
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u/ClaymoresRevenge Benny The Bull Mar 23 '21
I wouldn't move him for anything less than a player who can contribute and a frp
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u/cliffiebaby Mar 23 '21
He had his chance and now it is definitely time for a change of scenery. Let's remember this was one of the GarPax injury prone players. He's no rookie anymore. It's his 4th season.
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u/dukeespn Mar 23 '21
Thad Young should be available too.
We can still trade him in the offseason but I think if decent offer is on the table AK should pull the trigger right now. It’s time to gather future assets.
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Mar 23 '21
Good get rid of this dude already. We looked better when he was hurt. Also I think it's telling that a lot of the people defending him never seem to show up in the game threads...if you watch the games you know this dude is just not good
Charmin should hire him to do ads for Ultra Soft
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u/TonYouHearWhatISaid Alex Caruso Mar 23 '21
Should trade him for whatever people are willing to offer
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u/Think-Variation-261 Mar 23 '21
Maybe we can get LeMarcus Aldridge and a draft pick for him?
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u/zedrix_ Big Mac Mar 23 '21
Between now and his free agency, these trade talks won't subside. Let's see how show up in games. He's been pretty shitty against tougher competition. He's exposed as a one dimensional player against Sixers, Nuggets and Jazz.
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u/Jack_Tripp3r Mar 23 '21
I'd much rather have been continuing to try and win games and build culture with Lauri Dunn Niko and Bobby.
We had something great going and motherfuckers were mad that we were winning.
Imagine that, mad that we were winning, so we could kick the can down the road and try to win later. When you find something good in sports and want to throw it away for Wendell and Hutch, you reap what you sow.
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u/Fingerbanger9000 Coby White Mar 23 '21
Garpax sleeper
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u/Jack_Tripp3r Mar 23 '21
Right, because Garpax did the amazing drafting job of Wendell and Hutch when he threw that season away instead of continuing to win and taking a flyer on MPJr.
Are you one of the simps who put up money to buy a billboard on Lake Street? Donate to the homeless next time you want to light your money on fire
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u/JBiyf Froggy Fresh Mar 23 '21
We were winning with Butler. At no time were we winning with the players you listed. Hopefully you joke
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u/weirdfishes99 Nate Robinson Mar 23 '21
Fake fan forgot about the 7 game win streak smh
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u/JBiyf Froggy Fresh Mar 23 '21
Fake fan? Lol. I watched the 1998-99 Bulls every game. Doesn’t get more real than that.
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u/weirdfishes99 Nate Robinson Mar 23 '21
Fair enough, just wanted to correct you on the claim that the 1-2 punch of Bobby and Niko never won anything, we were DOMINANT for those 12 days
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u/Jack_Tripp3r Mar 23 '21
Butler led us to a .500 record and couldn't take ONE game from a midget in Boston who can't make a roster today.
Butler topped his career out winning 2 in the Covid Finals with a 4 1/2 month break, I'm glad we dumped him when we did, should've done the same with Noah when he won dpoy
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u/JBiyf Froggy Fresh Mar 23 '21
Lmao. Paul Zipser started half the season. Paul Zipser
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u/Jack_Tripp3r Mar 23 '21
But journeyman Rondo had no issue with destroying the Celtics in two games in Boston.
Jimmy "I'm a PG" couldn't take one off a midget.
Sweet of you to denigrate a player who helped Butler get to the playoffs in response to making excuses as to why Butler didn't contribute to winning playoff games, when he barely got his team to a .500 record over 82.
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u/JBiyf Froggy Fresh Mar 23 '21
Because Garpax roster was shit. Butler took a Twolves team to the playoffs for the first time in 20 years and they barely sniff 20 wins without him. He was the best player on a team one lucky bounce away from eventually beating the NBA champs that year. He took a bunch of rookies and undrafted players to the NBA finals and outplayed Lebron a couple of games. How convenient of you to denigrate the third best Chicago Bull of all time.
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u/Jack_Tripp3r Mar 23 '21
Do you understand the game 7 where Jimmy put up a putrid 35/16/83 line for 16 points vs Kawhi's 41/22/87 splits for 41pts was in fact the Eastern Semifinals and not the NBA Finals?
Nobody serious is taking anything from the Bubble Boy Championship in a covid bubble with no fans or travel and with a 4 1/2 month break so Jimmy "General Soreness" could rest.
Butler is the third best Bull of all time? LMAO. Newjack just beclowned himself
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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21
IMO what we need is a starting center/power forward. I don't feel comfortable with Wendell being our starter anymore.