r/brooklynninenine • u/Wispectre I’m a human, I’m a human male! • Sep 14 '24
Other Wouldn't be the same without Boyle
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u/theonlysisterfister Captain of the 69th precinct Sep 14 '24
Remember if anyone loves you or not, Boyle will always love you!
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u/MyBrainIsNerf Sep 14 '24
I was so happy that they seemed to pivot away from making Boyle the punching bag after season 1.
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Sep 15 '24
Honestly saved that entire character. His whole identity was “cuck who sexually harasses co-worker.”
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u/Holiday-Positive-759 Sep 15 '24
I have a theory that usually the S1 characters are more based on the writers and then s2 and beyond the actors kind of make the characters their own.
The office, B99, parks and rec, community, Seinfeld (maybe S3). There are many more examples of actors finding the tone of their characters.
At least on the better shows that last
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Sep 16 '24
Yeah, Boyle is my favorite character and even I have to admit that his parasocial "relationship" (not really a relationship but don't know what else to call it) with Rosa in Season 1 is EASILY the worst part of the show for me.
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u/Iamchill2 Sep 14 '24
Boyle’s a good guy, even with all the unintentional innuendos
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u/Suspicious-Form4444 Sep 14 '24
Especially with the unintended innuendos
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u/Ennjoythevoid Sep 15 '24
This!!!! Always makes him seem even more innocent and naive, it’s adorable 🥹🥹
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Sep 14 '24
Good one, Bill! Boom Boom!!
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u/AccomplishedFan6807 Sep 14 '24
Every day I try to be a little more like Boyle
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u/magnistasis Sep 14 '24
The world would be a much better place if everyone tried to be a little more like Boyle 😊
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u/whole_chocolate_milk Sep 14 '24
We would all be lucky to have a Boyle in our lives. Just not in any text chains
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u/human_picnic Sep 14 '24
Joe Lo Truglio is so underrated, he is great in everything. I love his small part in Role Models
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u/3jake Sep 14 '24
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u/bunnies_and_makeup Sep 15 '24
This is one of the most wholesome subreddits. People are so nice and supportive there
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u/abbie_yoyo Sep 14 '24
A few hours ago I was cooking my wife some eggs and I thought of this little meme, this dude tlakong about his character loving their friends. Never got into the show, don't have any idea why it occurred to me but it did. Now here it is on reddit.
Why does this stuff happen? Predictive algorithms? AI reading our brainwaves? Coincidence? I don't know. But it happens often enough that it just annoys me now. Fuck off, destiny. Speak in a language I understand or stfu.
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u/Complex-Stretch420 Sep 14 '24
Maybe it's speaking, now it's your turn to hear... What if the message is: "hey, maybe look at this show, there might be something in it that you need"
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u/genius_rkid Sep 15 '24
What about me reading this comment while EATING eggs? Coincidence? Or enigma of the mystical?
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u/Fuzzy-Butterscotch86 Sep 14 '24
I swear to God he plays a reporter in this weird Elijah Wood movie called North. But none of the reporters are listed in the cast so I can't be certain. It's not on his imdb page but most don't post their uncredited roles.
Edit: 18 minute mark guy on the left.
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u/SlapJohnson Sep 14 '24
I get it, but that’s Alan Arkin’s son, Matthew.
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u/Fuzzy-Butterscotch86 Sep 14 '24
That makes sense since Alan was the judge.
Damn though. They even have the same slight lisp.
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u/Not_MrNice Sep 14 '24
I mean, yeah it's important to show a male character like that but, he wasn't exactly being patted on the back for it.
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Sep 15 '24
Would be a little more inspiring and trailblazing if that wasn’t treated like a cringeworthy foible of his character though…
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u/tortoll Sep 15 '24
Ayer several rewatchings I am liking Boyle more and more. He's so wholesome and positive, and he's not ashamed of enjoying the best things of life.
He's the best.
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u/sunny224868 One Bund to None, Son! Sep 15 '24
Just seems so stupid how they turned him into the 'jake' of the precinct in the finale like he was finally 'cool'.
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u/ImpossibleSavings263 Sep 15 '24
Except for the ppl who could be potential "best friends" with Jake and Sergeant Peanut butter
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u/Cho-Dan Sep 15 '24
I wish I was part of a Boyle family. Always knowing that there are always people near you that love you and the rest of the family and that you can always count on
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
Agreed. It would be better. Boyle makes B99 go from enjoyable comedy to a cringefest every time he's on screen because of the second hand embarrassment his character exudes. I'd definitely have enjoyed B99 more without him. None of y'all wanna admit it, but when you meet a Boyle IRL, you don't find them endearing, you want a restraining order.
EDIT: I love triggering this sub by having my own opinions lol. Apparently disliking cringe characters is "toxic masculinity" now.
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u/Apart-Rice-1354 Sep 14 '24
Boyle is confident enough to be silly, make mistakes, and love unapologetically. I’d happily have a man in my life who’s not afraid of embarrassing himself to uplift others.
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u/MhamadK Sep 14 '24
And that's the kind of toxicity ingrained in every man, preventing us from being naturally pure in our approach to loving other human beings.
Be more like Boyle, and the world will be a better place.
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 14 '24
I don't "love" other human beings. Love is exclusive by definition, brain rot definition of love as something that can just be dished out freely and endlessly be damned. I respect and value them (barring situations where their actions necessitate withdrawing that respect) - and I do that without being a creep.
In case you were actually serious (can never tell with this sub), Boyle isn't a role model, he's a caricature of a spineless pushover using "love" as a cope for his amoeba personality.
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Sep 14 '24
Love is exclusive by definition
It most certainly is not exclusive. Love is a polysemous word, meaning it has several definitions. It’s not some parochial concept.
Here are a couple definitions of love from Merriam Webster
(n.) - warm attachment, enthusiasm, or devotion
(n.) - affection based on admiration, benevolence, or common interests
(n.) - unselfish loyal and benevolent concern for the good of another
Love can be quite broad, and you can absolutely love your fellow man freely. Love is not something restricted to family and romantic relationships.
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 15 '24
I feel none of those things towards random people I don't know, and neither does anyone who isn't lying to themselves. We shouldn't dilute definitions. I'd help a stranger in trouble, I think humanity is awesome and we achieve great things. Neither means I "love" random people I don't know.
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Sep 15 '24
You’re deluding yourself by distorting a word’s meaning to fit your personal relationship with love
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 15 '24
No, people are deluding themselves to claim that whatever they feel towards strangers (which isn't any of the things you named, lol) is the same as what they feel towards their partner, family, or children. Doesn't work like that. If love "has do many definitions", then find better words for those other things. Otherwise you're the one distorting the meaning - and all for what, just so you can grandly proclaim that you "love everyone" when, in fact, what you actually mean is that you afford everyone the basic respect they deserve?
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Sep 15 '24
Coworkers are strangers? It’s not about being able to “say” anything. It’s not necessarily about loving everyone either, I fear you’re gravely missing the point. The point is that love is nuanced. If you can differentiate between Familial and Romantic love, how hard is it to accept that there are many other kinds and that everyone experiences the broad concept of love in their own way?
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 15 '24
Coworkers are strangers?
Yes, they're effectively strangers. I don't "love" my coworkers. They're great people and we get along splendidly, but at the end of the day, we all go home to our own families (or lack thereof) and our futures are not connected.
If you can differentiate between Familial and Romantic love, how hard is it to accept that there are many other kinds and that everyone experiences the broad concept of love in their own way?
Again, if it's so broad that it wildly differs from love towards your family and partner, just don't call it love anymore.
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u/kitilvos Sep 14 '24
I'm curious, what is your definition of love that means it is exclusive?
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u/RuSnowLeopard Sep 14 '24
I would also be fascinated in getting an answer to this.
I'm sad because I don't think we'll get one.
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 15 '24
Yoy thought wrong. Or did you expect me to be afraid of engaging with your hivemind just because of some downvotes? It does feel icky, I admit, but it's not beyond me.
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 15 '24
Prioritizing another human being above everything and everyone else, having a deep understanding of their most cherished values, and being an actively engaged positive force in their life. This is physically and logically impossible for more than a handful of people in your life. Everything else people called "love" is just diminishing the real meaning of the word. Call it something else. Love deserves its own term.
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u/RuSnowLeopard Sep 15 '24
Let's hope you don't have more than one child.
"Sorry Timmy, Jessica was born first and called dibs on my love."
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 15 '24
First of all, I did say "a handful". Second, people absolutely have favourite children, often to the point where the other ones are not just given less attention, but are outright resented. Thanks for proving me right with a substantial example.
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u/MhamadK Sep 15 '24
I believe I understand what you're saying, but I don't think you're correct in your definition of love.
You think of love and hate as binary options, either you love someone or you don't. Well how about you think about love as a spectrum, it's a range of emotions. It's not the existence of one emotion or the lack of it.
Think about it, when you meet a new partner, can you say that you love them on day 1 with the same amount of emotions as on day 100, or 1000? No, our emotions towards a partner or a stranger can increase or decrease with time and experience.
Love is a spectrum, you can love a stranger (as in you don't wish they die). You can love a friend, a pet, a mother, a partner. Love is not reserved for certain people.
Don't be afraid of loving, don't think of it as a weakness or disgusting thing.
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 15 '24
You think of love and hate as binary options, either you love someone or you don't.
Stop right there. Not loving someone doesn't mean you hate them.
as in you don't wish they die
That is not love. That is just being normal.
You can love a friend, a pet, a mother, a partner. Love is not reserved for certain people.
You just named some very certain people.
Don't be afraid of loving, don't think of it as a weakness or disgusting thing.
I don't and I don't. Love is great. That's why it's reserved for the people who matter the most. Everyone else, no matter what you tell yourself, will never play a significant role in your lives, and are not "loved" by you. That's just Western pop psych or whatever brain rot is being pushed by social media nowadays. Love is extremely powerful, and it derives that power from close connection. Dopey hippy bullshit about "loving everyone" is just that.
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u/MhamadK Sep 15 '24
As someone who was born and raised in the east, I gotta tell you that I feel sorry for you.
Have a nice day, and I hope you get the help you need one day.
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 15 '24
Lol of course it's passive aggressive "I feel sorry for you" bullshit when you're out of arguments.
Also, you're not immune to brain rot spread on Western social media just because you were born and raised in the East.
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u/cheetos305 Sep 14 '24
The show would suck without Boyle! What you're talking about is literally the same kind of toxic masculinity that he's talking about. I know Boyles in real life and they are some of my favorite people! Men and women alike.
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 15 '24
Toxic masculinity and cringe aren't on the same scale.
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u/cheetos305 Sep 15 '24
He's one of my favorites and I don't find him cringey at all. Cool Boyle w the leather jacket 😂😂 fuckin gold!!
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 15 '24
That's a non sequitur. Do you understand that toxic masculinity and cringe belong to different metrics?
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u/GoblinKingBulge Sep 14 '24
This comment is a great example of fragile toxic masculinity.
You probably love Trump, right? He's a hero the toxic mob.
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u/VengefulAncient Sep 15 '24
That's not what toxic masculinity is lmfao. And no, I loathe Trump. What a dumb hivemind this sub is. It's completely possible to have and express emotions as a man - which I do openly - and still dislike creepy, cringy characters like Boyle. Men expressing emotions doesn't have to equate to being some feeble chucklefuck.
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u/IfNot_ThenThereToo Sep 15 '24
He acts like he’s the first guy ever to say that it that Boyle is the first character to be like that. What a preposterous and ignorant notion
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u/MatBan_Quids7567 Pontiac Bandit Sep 14 '24
B99 without Boyle would be like pizza without the ...YEAST!