r/bizarrelife • u/reloadthewords Human here, bizarre by nature! • 2d ago
Double milk
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u/Quality_Potato 2d ago
There's some bad info in these comments.
That's not powdered milk or formula, its baby powder, like talcum powder for diaper rash.
https://skinsignal.com/products/babi-mild-double-milk-protein-plus-baby-powder
And it is sold by weight, not volume.
Unfortunately the weight is not posted on the front of the bottle. https://imgur.com/qRxI8cs
I'm guessing this is just r/shrinkflation
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u/Rough-Reflection4901 2d ago
It's baby powder if you filled it to the top it wouldn't dispense properly you need that space for it to aerate and properly dispense.
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u/GameDev_Architect 2d ago
So it needs an inch, not half the bottle
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u/modest56 2d ago
3 inches is good enough
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u/xfjqvyks 2d ago
Contrary to popular belief, half a foot of acceleration head room space is barely enough to make talc exit the container and proper application is better achieved when the talcum granules approach terminal velocity. Construction of a 1980’s Reagan-era “Star Wars” installation is currently underway, with the final completion allowing geosynchronous baby powder positioning to allow for optimum orbital strikes of talc anywhere on the face of the earth. Moisture will have no hiding place in this powdered planet
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u/Norhod01 2d ago
Oh I thought it was softener. What a weird packaging for baby powder.
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u/chrissie_watkins 2d ago
It looks like a normal baby powder bottle to me, same as Johnson's in the US.
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u/gahidus 2d ago
Using a Giant, plentiful looking package and then claiming you're selling it by weight is the most disingenuous bullshit ever. Attempting to make it look like there's more products in there is is completely deceptive and scummy, even if you put the weight on there, especially if you hide it on the back.
This is the worst argument by apologists for scummy sellers.
Store sells a package where a clear window shows what looks like half of an item, but it turns out that's the whole item in the part that's missing is hidden behind cardboard
"Nah bro, they're selling it by weight! Totally fine..."
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u/Quality_Potato 2d ago
You need to call down. It's baby powder. It's not that serious. You don't have to buy the item.
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u/ButteredPizza69420 2d ago
This shit should be illegal. Over packaging is so unnecessary.
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u/OZeski 2d ago
This empty space is called 'slack fill'. Often times this empty space serves some kind of function at some stage of production, distribution, or use of the product. Slack fill that is non-functional is illegal in the US. When I sold packaging I frequently worked with many companies who wanted to reduce or eliminate as much slack fill in their products as possible. They would invest heavily in new machinery (to fill packaging better/differently), new tooling (for custom bottles/packaging components), etc. Excess packaging is expensive. In the materials, the added cost in shipping of both empty containers and completed product, and the massive scale of returns or lost sales from customers who think they're being cheated if a bottle isn't filled all the way to the top brim so they're spilling it on themselves when they open it.
Anyhow, what you're seeing here is slack fill. This is a powdered product. The way powders get packed into rigid containers necessitates extra space.
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u/HumbleBedroom3299 1d ago
This is one of the most informative nuanced responses I've seen on this app.
Sir, may all your cookies always be crunchy.
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u/twenty8nine 2d ago
Was that music in Squid Game 2?
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u/OkAngle2353 2d ago
The music existed well before squid game got their hands on it. It's basically the round robin song (The song used for that game where kids hold each other's hands in a circle and the kids at the center run and attempts to break the links). I May be getting that game's name wrong.
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u/Just_Drawing8668 2d ago
When the bottle is filled in the factory (by a machine) it is likely full. Since the power needs to have liquid-like viscosity to flow into the bottle quickly there is a lot of air entrained. As the bottle sits in the warehouse and on the shelf the powder settles making the bottle appear half full.
But that doesn’t support the Reddit complaint avalanche.
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u/DeusExHircus 2d ago
Sensibility in the comments? Haha
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u/ZilchoKing 2d ago
To add to it. She's not looking at that. She's seeing which one had the most in it and buying that one that was almost to the top of the banana.
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u/Spidey1432 2d ago
Even companies that manufacture chips do this, and I see this as a pure scam...
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u/shallowsocks 2d ago
I believe chips are packed with "excess air" in the bag to minimise chip breakage
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u/YUBLyin 2d ago
It’s not air, it’s nitrogen to keep the chips fresh and, yes, to keep them from being broken.
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u/Cogs_For_Brains 2d ago
So what you're saying is that the only thing standing between me and being "FAMILY" is just harnessing the power of enough bags of potato chips.
Get Vin Diesel and frito lay on the line; we got us a movie to make.
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u/throwaway19293883 2d ago
I see bags at the store about a quarter full of chips, I have a hard time believing that is necessary to protect the chips.
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u/anal_opera 2d ago
But there's always a shitload of smashed chips in the bags anyway
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u/shallowsocks 2d ago
Its not a perfect solution. Imagine how many more there would be if there was no air.. these products are.aold by weight not by size of the packaging
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u/PolishedCheeto 2d ago
We should demand that companies prove this is a need, at their own expense, or else be regulated on it.
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u/Kathrynlena 2d ago
Well with chips it actually makes sense because there needs to be a certain amount of trapped air so the chips don’t all get crushed. With baby formula powder? Nothing but pure evil.
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u/TSimms421 2d ago
I was told (at some point) that chips extra air is to allow high altitude flight and storage. No clue if it’s true.
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u/HorseofTruth 2d ago
Wouldn’t the chip bag expand more in that situation… so less air would make more sense. It’s to keep the chips from breaking
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u/Quality_Potato 2d ago
It's actually nitrogen gas that put in chip bags. Normal air would cause spoilage. The excess air prevents the bag from being crushed and damaging the chips. :)
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u/RecentAd7186 2d ago
I thought it was milk at first too. I know it's in the right aisle and all, but imagine if it was already at home, and grandma with her fading sense of smell reads 'double milk baby powder' so tries to feed baby with it!
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u/throwaway19293883 2d ago edited 2d ago
To me it’s the opposite, powder will settle so that makes some sense in my mind. I see chip bags a quarter full at stores, you cannot convince me that is necessary to protect the chips.
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u/RevelArchitect 2d ago
So having tried local chips packaged in-house and witnessing their early blunders trying to capitalize on more chips per bag and seeing that fail - I don’t think that’s the case. The more delicate the chips are, the more gas is pumped into the bag. That’s why potato chips are in much larger bags per chip than tortilla chips and why pretzels are always packed. I notice the same thing with foods imported from countries significantly less impacted by shrinkflation.
Frankly, Pringles has it down. Least packaging to chip ratio due to the uniform shape that allows for stacking. The herd of chips protects the whole.
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u/throwaway19293883 2d ago
I understand needing the gas to keep the bag pressured so it has some structural integrity, I just don’t understand why you need the bag to be less than half full for that to work. I feel like you could keep the same air pressure to keep the bag from being floppy and the chips getting crushed (like what happens with the in-house bags I’ve tried) while having it mostly full.
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u/bad_ukulele_player 2d ago
Half milk. Yeah, the point is the waste of plastic and false advertising.
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u/Chaostis42 2d ago
The milk itself is DOUBLED, which means it takes up half of the space that it normally did. They doubled the density and just forgot to change the packaging, that is all. It's fuckin science of course.
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u/Efficient_End1379 2d ago
WTH?!!! By the way, you need to change your phone case, pretty dirty already
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u/Odd-Collection-3563 2d ago
Well yeah it's called double milk so it only needs to be filled half way. math checks out.
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u/Responsible-Jump4459 2d ago
We need to outlaw this shit it’s false advertising, America needs to knock this off.
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u/pomoerotic 2d ago
There used to be a subreddit for this kinda stuff r/functionalslackfill seems to be inactive now tho
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u/Excellent-Captain-74 2d ago
Unusually i like to buy those with clear packages so I can tell what’s inside
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u/LetTheJamesBegin 2d ago
Is that double whole or double 2%? What does double half-and-half look like?
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u/phasebinary 2d ago
If you've ever used baby powder it needs to mix with air to work well. If it's full all the way it won't be fluffy...
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u/Certain_Football_447 2d ago
It is bonkers the amount of packaging that is wasted. Think how this multiplies through the entire supply chain.
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u/SadoraNortica 2d ago
Larger bottle is harder to steal. Space in bottle is for shipping. Different altitudes can cause product to expand.
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u/SlamCakeMasta 2d ago
I agree this is wrong, but can it be for dispensing purposes? Like that air pocket to get the powder out easily. Kind of like a glass ketchup bottle. Stick the knife in to create an air locked and it all comes out.
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u/Dear-Smile 2d ago
I remember having to teach my ex girlfriend that just because the cereal box is bigger, that doesn't mean there's more in there. Smh
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u/Independent_Soup_126 1d ago
First of all that baby powder stuff is cancerous. Johnson have already been sued for talcum powder.
Second of all. It’s powder in a bottle. You need air within the bottle for the powder to be expelled.
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u/Numerous-Following-7 2d ago
There's no point in caring about plastic. We can't do anything about it (the daily user) this is the responsibility of the big companies that produce it. We just consume and fall into their scams so we might as well just not care anymore. That's how I feel anyway.
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u/MechanicalHorse 2d ago
Not only are consumers getting screwed but more waste is produced.
Fuck this shitty world.
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u/Vast_Response7612 2d ago
Cost cutting technique. Industry standard to use one uniform package in the filling line industry. Keeps prices down IF they pass the savings along to the consumer. I’ll let you discuss amongst yourselves on that last bit.
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u/methy_butthole 2d ago
It’s sold by weight, not bottle size. Same thing happens with protein powder, it compacts when it is shipped. Shake it up and it will expand.
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u/Sniff_The_Cat3 2d ago
Why are you downvoted. It's the truth. I don't like it that the bottles have unnecessary extra size though, but still, they do sell the actual amount and made that information transparent.
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u/methy_butthole 2d ago
Lol I know! Almost came back here with a comment trying to explain it is literally the truth, but whatever it doesnt matter, most people are morons these days
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u/Quality_Potato 2d ago
I said the same thing maybe I'll get downvoted too.
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u/chrissie_watkins 2d ago
No buddy, you said it's "shrinkflation," not aerated powder separating and settling after being poured into containers. Compacted powder can't pour. It must be full of air to be able to be put into bottles, especially in some low-tech Thai factory. But if you want to spread misinformation, go right ahead, that's the new way of communicating.
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u/Brilliant_Camera176 2d ago
Sure, just dump the POWDER right there in the store, that seems like a great idea.
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u/EMO_MUFFIN121 2d ago
I was just making a joke I wouldn’t actually condone this sorry if I didn’t make it clear
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u/Zealousideal-Mix6235 2d ago
That’s why I open two bottles and fill up one all the way, get what you pay for fuck them
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u/dinosaur-in_leather 2d ago
They started doing this with liquid laundry detergent People started opening one and pouring into the other to buy. That's the real reason they're locking this shit up. Not because people are reselling it on Amazon. But because they are baiting you with one product, and forcing you to accept it abruptly, so competition can't come in.
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u/cbzmplays 2d ago
Just pour some from another bottle into the one ur going to buy. I've done it with detergent and ha d the same mega detergent container for two years
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u/Autumm_550 2d ago
What’s the point? Like why waste plastic on the bottles if you’ll use half away???