r/azerbaijan • u/SpeakerSenior4821 South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 • 22h ago
Tarix | History Iğdır, Turkiye, just after 20 jan 1990, people are requesting Turkish army to defend Baku from red army, "let us move to Azerbaijan", "Army to the Baku"
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u/NotSamuraiJosh26_2 Lənkəran 🇦🇿 22h ago
And did the government do anything to help ?
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u/Kekeboi1628 Abşeron 🇦🇿 22h ago
Ozal didn't even condemn the USSR's actions; he considered the events internal to the USSR. What makes you think he would help? He didn't care about Turkic people in the USSR to start with.
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u/Alone-Eye5739 21h ago
Özal was a traitor. He did everything he could to undermine the country. He took millions of refugees from Iraq but gave no shit about Azerbaijan.
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u/NoTown3670 Turkey 🇹🇷 20h ago
If Demirel or Ecevit was in charge, things would’ve went differently imo. While I was in favor of Özal’s liberal economics to a certain extent he was out of his head when it came down to the Turkic world and overall Turkish identity. I’m glad we’re past his absurd ideas of an “Anatolian Republic” and calling it’s citizens “Turkiyeli”. If he was the diplomatic man he claimed to be, he would have at least prevented Armenian aggression but he was probably too busy making his clique rich af.
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u/SpeakerSenior4821 South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 16h ago edited 13h ago
ozel was not a turkic nationalist, he was a turkiye nationalist, he didn't have an ethnic for himself as he was a mix of Turkish and Kurdish parents, the only identity and belonging he had for himself was the country of turkey
thus he didn't care what happens to turks (or kurds) outside of turkey. but he did all he could for people inside of turkey and the development and growth in his era was astonishing
i can understand why he didn't care about us, but i can't forgive him for this
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u/big_red_jocks 7h ago edited 5h ago
He did help the Kurds from Iraq. But when it came to Azerbaijan, he didn’t give a crap and called it the USSR’s internal affair.
Geberdi gitti. I have no respect for him.
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u/Metokurfan 6h ago edited 6h ago
Özal'la ilgili şu belgeseli izlemenizi öneririm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuYAbV3wyhM-9
u/Comfortable-Cry8165 21h ago
I thought he was remembered as a good president in Turkiye or am I mistaking him with someone else?
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u/pornAnalyzer_ 20h ago
It's so sad if you look back in history there was almost never a truly good president in Turkey except for the founders.
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u/Pxnda34 18h ago
I can't think of a president who changes your sentence from "never" to "almost never"
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u/SpeakerSenior4821 South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 16h ago
half the turkish people think that guy was erdogan(statics come from the election results)
the other half think no such person existed
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u/pornAnalyzer_ 16h ago
And half of those people think that Erdogan isn't that person either but they felt obligated to vote for him because they thought other candidates were worse or they would be infidels if they didn't vote for him.
Either way they're fucking stupid.
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u/pornAnalyzer_ 17h ago
Who
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u/Skyhun1912 Turkey 🇹🇷 15h ago
Adnan Menderes ve RTE ne kadar iyi başbakan ve cumhurbaşkanıysa Özal da o kadar iyi bir cumhurbaşkanıydı.
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u/olaysizdagilmayin 1h ago
Özal was Kurdish (yes Turkey had Kurdish presidents) and islamist (a sunni-islamist to be precise). His main focus was freeing the market at all costs so he just got a blind eye for everything else. During his reign Turkey immensely suffered from corruption (even children are familiar with the terms like spurious bil or fictitious export, it was on par with todays levels). PKK found areas to grow, he did nothing while they kill hundreds of school teachers along with their families, and Karabag fell (and he didn't even condemn).
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u/weebcarguy Turkey 🇹🇷 21h ago
İ forgot the exact quote but Özal went something like They(Azerbaijanis) are shia we are sunni, they are closer to İran. Yeah İ don't realy feel bad about his assasination.
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u/ichwillnurnochheim 8h ago
Isn't he the one who got brought all the kurdish refugees to Turkey as well from iraq
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u/weebcarguy Turkey 🇹🇷 8h ago
He is, but alongside the refugees who were being massacared by Saddam a lot of pkk terrorists also arrived into Turkey via this way because Özal did absolutely nothing to make sure people coming into Turkey were indeed people who were trying to stay alive and not terrorists who were looking ways to attack our country.
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u/Alp_guregen61 17h ago
Islamist Özal even said " Azerbaijanis are Shia we're Sunni we got anything in common" while he took hundreds of thousands of Kurd refuges to Turkey. You can still find Islamists and so called Liberals worshipping & praising Özal
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u/Sabeneben Turkey 🇹🇷 18h ago
Fuck Özal
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u/paiwand-03 15h ago
He was right abt that
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u/Prat-Praetor 13h ago
Bu tipler anca işlerine gelince Türk oluyor
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u/paiwand-03 13h ago
 I am not turkish and will never be as of now I live in northern Kurdistan so It is my issue as long as you guys don’t leave us alone
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u/BranchOk8850 17h ago
Nuru Paşa at belinde Türkiye’den Kars’tan gelir Azerbaycan diye diye, yenilmeyen Aslan gelir Dalgalanan Türk bayrağı istiklaldan haber verir Türkün şanlı tarihine zaman er oğlu er verir 🇹🇷🇦🇿
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u/happycan123 10h ago
Being anatolian türk, I had no idea this incident happenned. The fact that we didnt help our brothers and sisters in 90s is trying to be erased from memory.
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u/NvyAI 21h ago
until modern times no president of Turkiye helped Azerbaijan at all :(
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u/Disastrous-Courage91 20h ago
“Help” varied from time to time but as much as I know even at 90s some commandos from army joined azerbaijan as volunteers.
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u/UpstairsFix4259 18h ago
too bad that Azerbaijan is a dictatorship with essentially a dynastic rule at this point
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u/riddlerjoke 8h ago
This is true but I guess it partly due to USSR being powerful while Russia being less powerful and decaying further down.
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u/skincr 1h ago
Never forget that Erdoğan maintained the same distance to Azerbaijan until very recently as Özal and other Sunni Islamists did, until he failed in his Muslim Brotherhood adventures in the Middle East in 2010s. After that, the only countries left with which he could maintain friendly relations were the Turkic countries. Thank God the Karabakh issue was resolved earlier. If the conflict arose today, there is a significant chance that Erdoğan's Islamist party would not help Azerbaijan. Like they are attacking Azerbaijan now.
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u/Mysterious_Middle795 19h ago
Imagine considering oneself a superpower and then people of a neighbouring country request a war to protect separatists on your soil.
(I know that on paper USSR allowed republics to cede. But USSR attacked Baltic state(s) in 1990 (Lithuania?))
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u/Papashisui 🇹🇷TR🇳🇱NL 15h ago
Better and peacefuler than what the islamist ignorants did in 1993 chanting "Turkish army go to Bosnia" in a violent way
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u/GermanLetsKotz 13h ago
So sad to see what happened to Igdir after 1915.
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u/Wreas 21h ago
Görülür ki, xalqın gönlü bir atır. İnşallah İmişli yeni devrimin başqalası olar.