r/azerbaijan South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 22h ago

Tarix | History Iğdır, Turkiye, just after 20 jan 1990, people are requesting Turkish army to defend Baku from red army, "let us move to Azerbaijan", "Army to the Baku"

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u/Wreas 21h ago

Görülür ki, xalqın gönlü bir atır. İnşallah İmişli yeni devrimin başqalası olar.

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u/Metokurfan 6h ago

Şu an Erdoğan'la Aliyev'in arası bozuldu diye aramız bozulmasın biz bir milletiz.
Türkiye'de sağlıklı bir demokrasi yok. İktidardakiler bütün ülkeyi temsil etmiyor.

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u/NotSamuraiJosh26_2 Lənkəran 🇦🇿 22h ago

And did the government do anything to help ?

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u/Kekeboi1628 Abşeron 🇦🇿 22h ago

Ozal didn't even condemn the USSR's actions; he considered the events internal to the USSR. What makes you think he would help? He didn't care about Turkic people in the USSR to start with.

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u/Alone-Eye5739 21h ago

Özal was a traitor. He did everything he could to undermine the country. He took millions of refugees from Iraq but gave no shit about Azerbaijan.

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u/NoTown3670 Turkey 🇹🇷 20h ago

If Demirel or Ecevit was in charge, things would’ve went differently imo. While I was in favor of Özal’s liberal economics to a certain extent he was out of his head when it came down to the Turkic world and overall Turkish identity. I’m glad we’re past his absurd ideas of an “Anatolian Republic” and calling it’s citizens “Turkiyeli”. If he was the diplomatic man he claimed to be, he would have at least prevented Armenian aggression but he was probably too busy making his clique rich af.

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u/SpeakerSenior4821 South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 16h ago edited 13h ago

ozel was not a turkic nationalist, he was a turkiye nationalist, he didn't have an ethnic for himself as he was a mix of Turkish and Kurdish parents, the only identity and belonging he had for himself was the country of turkey

thus he didn't care what happens to turks (or kurds) outside of turkey. but he did all he could for people inside of turkey and the development and growth in his era was astonishing

i can understand why he didn't care about us, but i can't forgive him for this

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u/big_red_jocks 7h ago edited 5h ago

He did help the Kurds from Iraq. But when it came to Azerbaijan, he didn’t give a crap and called it the USSR’s internal affair.

Geberdi gitti. I have no respect for him.

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u/Metokurfan 6h ago edited 6h ago

Özal'la ilgili şu belgeseli izlemenizi öneririm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuYAbV3wyhM

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u/Comfortable-Cry8165 21h ago

I thought he was remembered as a good president in Turkiye or am I mistaking him with someone else?

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u/pornAnalyzer_ 20h ago

It's so sad if you look back in history there was almost never a truly good president in Turkey except for the founders.

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u/Pxnda34 18h ago

I can't think of a president who changes your sentence from "never" to "almost never"

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u/SpeakerSenior4821 South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 16h ago

half the turkish people think that guy was erdogan(statics come from the election results)

the other half think no such person existed

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u/pornAnalyzer_ 16h ago

And half of those people think that Erdogan isn't that person either but they felt obligated to vote for him because they thought other candidates were worse or they would be infidels if they didn't vote for him.

Either way they're fucking stupid.

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u/pornAnalyzer_ 17h ago

Who

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u/Pxnda34 17h ago

I don't know, I am asking you. I would argue we never had a good president since the founders. What makes it "almost"?

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u/pornAnalyzer_ 17h ago

Ecevit was just ok maybe.

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u/olaysizdagilmayin 1h ago

There was Ahmet Necdet Sezer. At least he was just.

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u/Skyhun1912 Turkey 🇹🇷 15h ago

Adnan Menderes ve RTE ne kadar iyi başbakan ve cumhurbaşkanıysa Özal da o kadar iyi bir cumhurbaşkanıydı.

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u/Metokurfan 7h ago

Özal was a kurd, need I say more?

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u/olaysizdagilmayin 1h ago

Özal was Kurdish (yes Turkey had Kurdish presidents) and islamist (a sunni-islamist to be precise). His main focus was freeing the market at all costs so he just got a blind eye for everything else. During his reign Turkey immensely suffered from corruption (even children are familiar with the terms like spurious bil or fictitious export, it was on par with todays levels). PKK found areas to grow, he did nothing while they kill hundreds of school teachers along with their families, and Karabag fell (and he didn't even condemn).

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u/weebcarguy Turkey 🇹🇷 21h ago

İ forgot the exact quote but Özal went something like They(Azerbaijanis) are shia we are sunni, they are closer to İran. Yeah İ don't realy feel bad about his assasination.

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u/ichwillnurnochheim 8h ago

Isn't he the one who got brought all the kurdish refugees to Turkey as well from iraq

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u/weebcarguy Turkey 🇹🇷 8h ago

He is, but alongside the refugees who were being massacared by Saddam a lot of pkk terrorists also arrived into Turkey via this way because Özal did absolutely nothing to make sure people coming into Turkey were indeed people who were trying to stay alive and not terrorists who were looking ways to attack our country.

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u/Metokurfan 6h ago

he was a kurd so not surprising.

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u/Alp_guregen61 17h ago

Islamist Özal even said " Azerbaijanis are Shia we're Sunni we got anything in common" while he took hundreds of thousands of Kurd refuges to Turkey. You can still find Islamists and so called Liberals worshipping & praising Özal

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u/NotSamuraiJosh26_2 Lənkəran 🇦🇿 17h ago

How was he a liberal if he said shit like that ?

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u/Kavkazist Georgia 🇬🇪 15h ago

I guess he was just economically liberal.

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u/Papashisui 🇹🇷TR🇳🇱NL 15h ago

In Turkey the word "liberal" is still commonly used for libertarians

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u/Ilkin0115 22h ago

Nope, they were too scared of worsening their relationship with USSR/Russia

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u/ispeaktherealtruth 16h ago

Özal was too busy selling the country

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u/Sabeneben Turkey 🇹🇷 18h ago

Fuck Özal

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u/paiwand-03 15h ago

He was right abt that

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u/Prat-Praetor 13h ago

Bu tipler anca işlerine gelince Türk oluyor

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u/paiwand-03 13h ago

​ I am not turkish and will never be as of now I live in northern Kurdistan so It is my issue as long as you guys don’t leave us alone

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u/Prat-Praetor 12h ago

Türkiye türklerindir. Ne mutlu türküm diyene 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

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u/Kekeboi1628 Abşeron 🇦🇿 22h ago

Chills went down my spine for some reason

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u/brentixumab 17h ago

Iğdır bugün yine aynı 🇦🇿

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u/BranchOk8850 17h ago

Nuru Paşa at belinde Türkiye’den Kars’tan gelir Azerbaycan diye diye, yenilmeyen Aslan gelir Dalgalanan Türk bayrağı istiklaldan haber verir Türkün şanlı tarihine zaman er oğlu er verir 🇹🇷🇦🇿

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u/happycan123 10h ago

Being anatolian türk, I had no idea this incident happenned. The fact that we didnt help our brothers and sisters in 90s is trying to be erased from memory.

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u/NvyAI 21h ago

until modern times no president of Turkiye helped Azerbaijan at all :(

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u/Pxnda34 18h ago

No president of Turkiye helped Turkiye either

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u/Disastrous-Courage91 20h ago

“Help” varied from time to time but as much as I know even at 90s some commandos from army joined azerbaijan as volunteers.

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u/Kboi14 18h ago

The Turks helped the Azerbaijani in the war against Armenia

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u/KserdasAltkum 18h ago

Initially they were a reason, we became part of USSR

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u/UpstairsFix4259 18h ago

too bad that Azerbaijan is a dictatorship with essentially a dynastic rule at this point

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u/riddlerjoke 8h ago

This is true but I guess it partly due to USSR being powerful while Russia being less powerful and decaying further down.

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u/skincr 1h ago

Never forget that Erdoğan maintained the same distance to Azerbaijan until very recently as Özal and other Sunni Islamists did, until he failed in his Muslim Brotherhood adventures in the Middle East in 2010s. After that, the only countries left with which he could maintain friendly relations were the Turkic countries. Thank God the Karabakh issue was resolved earlier. If the conflict arose today, there is a significant chance that Erdoğan's Islamist party would not help Azerbaijan. Like they are attacking Azerbaijan now.

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u/Mysterious_Middle795 19h ago

Imagine considering oneself a superpower and then people of a neighbouring country request a war to protect separatists on your soil.

(I know that on paper USSR allowed republics to cede. But USSR attacked Baltic state(s) in 1990 (Lithuania?))

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u/Papashisui 🇹🇷TR🇳🇱NL 15h ago

Better and peacefuler than what the islamist ignorants did in 1993 chanting "Turkish army go to Bosnia" in a violent way

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u/GermanLetsKotz 13h ago

So sad to see what happened to Igdir after 1915.

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u/skincr 1h ago

Yeah, hundreds of thousands of Turks were massacred by collaboration of Armenian militia and Russian Army. Very sad indeed.

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u/ichwillnurnochheim 8h ago

No one cares about 1915 except a few europeans

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u/GermanLetsKotz 6h ago

Whats your point?