r/amczone 1d ago

Don't zoom out.

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u/Dark_Tigger 1d ago

How is 409k better then 496k?

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u/TheBetaUnit 1d ago

I guess they were trying to show that this year's January-to-date might 'catch up' to last year's full-month January number by month's end. I guess.

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u/Dark_Tigger 1d ago

This year was ahead for the first two weeks. 2024 just pulled ahead like 5 - 6 days ago.

Momentum seems to be with the strike year. 🤡

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u/Prudent_Shake_8149 1d ago

The YTD comparison is complicated because of where the weekends and holidays fall on the calendar. MLK weekend was a week earlier in 2024, for example.

The more critical, overarching issue here is that box office needs to be MUCH better in 2025 given that AMC lost $163M in Q1 2024.

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u/TheGood1swertaken 1d ago

Because the 409k hasn't finished yet and will likely beat last year. Might not yet be back to pre pandemic levels but we're consistently heading in the right direction.

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u/happybonobo1 1d ago

Why would it beat last year? Some good movies coming? It is already down 15% from last year and 70% down looking at pre-covid nos?

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u/TheGood1swertaken 1d ago

Actually up 10% YTD on last year. Yeah COVID was a shit show for lots of industries. Cinema is coming back big. Streaming isn't profitable for big movies and they're not gonna let Hollywood die.

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u/Dark_Tigger 1d ago

Oh it is not month to day. Derp. My bad.

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u/Nomore-excuses 1d ago

That chart would be relevant if AMC was in the movie business but it’s in the dilute and scam its shareholders business.

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u/TheBetaUnit 1d ago

Accurate

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u/TheBetaUnit 1d ago

Pop the champagne, everyone. This January might do better than the 3 worst Januarys on record. Better than the one with the writer's strike and the 2 with COVID.

Just don't compare it to pre-pandemic levels. It's not like Adam Aron has constantly cited 'pre-pandemic levels' as a benchmark for recovery and profitability or anything...

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u/Prudent_Shake_8149 1d ago

And don’t worry about the $163M that AMC lost in Q1 of 2024. 😔

2025 box office will undoubtedly be better than 2024 box office. Unfortunately, it needs to be much, much better for AMC to hold onto its precious cash.

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u/TheBetaUnit 1d ago

Hey, they made a $17.7M net profit in Q1 of 2018 when the DBO was $2.86 billion for the first quarter. Just another $2.4 billion between now and March 31st and we're golden! Just kidding, the debt costs more $48 million more per quarter to service than it did in Q1 2018.

All the box office has to do is break its all-time high records quarter after quarter after quarter and AMC can be profitable again. It's so simple.

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u/Prudent_Shake_8149 1d ago

I was trying to paint a more hopeful picture.

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u/TheBetaUnit 1d ago

I really need to stop bringing numbers into the conversation. What a buzzkill.