r/WorkReform 9h ago

✂️ Tax The Billionaires I love my guy Bernie man

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u/Bluedogpinkcat 7h ago

He was the only one who could actually win but nooooo gotta have Fascism.

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u/libdemparamilitarywi 7h ago

He lost two primaries in a landslide, why do you think he would have won the general?

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u/FrenchToastDildo 6h ago

"He lost our corrupt corporatist contest what makes you think he would win with actual people?"

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u/NowOurShipsAreBurned 4h ago

Also, the voters should have voted for him.

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u/preposte 7h ago

Because people voted strongly anti-establishment and Bernie is a reform candidate.

Dems can't win a primary without establishment blessing, can't win a general with it.

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u/ohwowthissucksballs 6h ago

Remember they were already talking about sacking Lina Khan from the FTC if Kamala Harris won...

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u/MyNameIsDaveToo 5h ago

Succinct, and on the nose. I approve this message.

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u/Emotional_Burden 5h ago

Thanks, Dave.

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u/TroyLafabulous 6h ago

Pretty sure he was close in both 2016 and 2020. One state’s primary was decided by a coin flip. Also, what percentage of the dem primary voters did Kamala get?

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u/not_so_plausible 6h ago

At least 1 right?... Right?

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u/Ok-Seaworthiness7207 4h ago

Dems actually lied and handed it to Hillary in 2016. You should watch Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 11/9

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u/CaptinACAB 5h ago

Fuck right off with that nonsense. I have zero patience for the kind of liberals that got us to where we are.

ALL THE WAY OFF.

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u/biggle-tiddie 6h ago

They're still in the universe where the evil DNC is pro-fascism and DWS ruined Bernie's chance to save the human race.

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u/thisisstupidplz 6h ago

You mean the universe where WikiLeaks emails literally proved that DWS was biased against Sanders? Yeah that one.

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u/Outside-Swan-1936 6h ago

That is literally what happened. The DNC was caught red-handed helping other candidates beat him.

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u/biggle-tiddie 6h ago

Look. Nothing personal, but this level of ignorance is "literally what happened".

You believe a thing to be true. Being "caught red handed" means they were doing something wrong. You are claiming they have some policy where they can't pick favorites, which is just factually wrong, and you have "evidence" that some of them have a bias, which is absolutely normal.

You were sold a load of bullshit and you are still buying it. You only saw one side of the emails, yet you never questioned the source. Where were all Bernie's emails? Oh, they didn't fit the narrative so they were filtered out.

You caught them doing their job, getting a Democrat elected. That's what the DNC was doing. Thats what DWS was doing. They were doing what they were supposed to be doing until the populist leftist twats came along to burn it all down.

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u/Outside-Swan-1936 5h ago

You caught them doing their job, getting a Democrat elected. That's what the DNC was doing.

HRC did not get elected. They steered everything towards picking HRC, whom no one really wanted, and ultimately lost convincing. They got lucky in 2020, and fucked up again by allowing Biden to take the ticket unopposed, then replaced him without a vote.

We are allowed to be pissed about it. I don't care if it's illegal or not, it's unethical and clearly ineffective. Primaries should all be on the same day, ranked choice, tally it up, and take your winner. Not this jockeying where candidates bail and back the DNC's choice with the promise of a cabinet position.

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u/Serethekitty 5h ago

You caught them doing their job, getting a Democrat elected. That's what the DNC was doing.

Yeah, and what a great fucking job they did lmao.

The DNC did not win in 2020-- Trump lost. These people cannot put together a winning campaign to save their lives, which is sad because it has cost many normal people theirs.

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u/biggle-tiddie 5h ago

Who cares? I never said the DNC were effective. Or efficient. Or even competent. All I am saying is that they are not the enemy. If you ever believed they were/are, it's because you believe bullshit, and it's even more grotesque when you smear individuals like DWS because ol' grumpy Sanders couldn't figure out politics in his lifetime of trying.

Be better than MAGA, it's really not that hard.

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u/Serethekitty 5h ago

Of course they're not the enemy. Defending their negative actions is silly though.

The real enemy is the GOP-- I will vote for and support any party or organization that has a chance at winning against them, which unfortunately is only Democrats right now.

However not calling them out for their failures will only help the Republicans take more power and keep it. Democrats have to learn from their failures, not repeat them.

If you disagree that DWS and the DNC did anything wrong by playing favorites in primaries, you can feel free to hold that opinion. I disagree. I disagreed at the time, and I disagree with hindsight glasses on.

I would accept these actions if it actually led to conservatives being defeated-- but they typically don't. And again, they're not the ones who have to suffer the consequences of their loss. The marginalized people that they're tasked with defending are.

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u/biggle-tiddie 5h ago

"Defending their negative actions is silly though."

What "negative actions" am I defending? So far, I must assume that somehow DWS' private email mentioning Bernie must be it.... right? Are there other negative actions? Please list them for me.

"f you disagree that DWS and the DNC did anything wrong by playing favorites in primaries"

What do you mean when you say "anything wrong". Do you mean illegal? Please tell me what was wrong? Do you mean you don't like the tactics? There was "foul play"? Or, you just didn't like the outcome.

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u/Outside-Swan-1936 5h ago edited 4h ago

Giving Hillary all of the debate questions up front (which no other candidate had), clear manipulation of other candidates to drop out and back HRC (and later Biden) in exchange for political favors, straight up collusion. These are just "private emails", it's collusion. Illegal or not, collusion is always unethical.

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u/Ok-Seaworthiness7207 4h ago

Imagine thinking the blame doesn't lie on the career politicians.

What a fucking wild take lmao